COVID-19 Megathread 5: The Trumps catch COVID-19

[GP270watch]

Police hunt mystery person walking streets as 17th-century plague doctor during coronavirus outbreak

So Jealous!

[GeorgiaModerate]

Nate Silver's daily summary:

https://mobile.twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1255622880336982017

[Mr. Reactionary]

https://mobile.twitter.com/CBSLA/status/1255699561399619584

Here come the fun police.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

I always always suspicious about our low death numbers


https://twitter.com/holmescnn/status/1255697532556115972

[Calthrina950]

https://mobile.twitter.com/CBSLA/status/1255699561399619584

Here come the fun police.

Didn't Newsom say that it would be "months" before barbershops, hair salons, gyms, and theaters would be allowed to reopen? I'm also surprised that he hasn't implemented a mandatory mask order at this point-although much of California (i.e. the Bay Area, Los Angeles County) is already under one. Some governors definitely do seem determined to keep the shutdowns going beyond the point that they may be feasible for (which is for me is anytime later than June).

[Dr. Arch]

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 4/29 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

Δ Change: Day-by-day Growth or Decline or COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.

• IE: Are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.

• IE: What's the overall change in the total?

<Last Numbers for 3/26-3/28 in this Post>
<Last Numbers for 3/29-4/4 in this Post>
<Last Numbers for 4/5-4/11 in this Post>

4/12: <Sunday>

• Cases: 560,323 (+27,444 | Δ Change: ↓10.20% | Σ Increase: ↑5.15%)
• Deaths: 22,108 (+1,531 | Δ Change: ↓17.33% | Σ Increase: ↑7.44%)

4/13:

• Cases: 586,941 (+26,618 | Δ Change: ↓3.01% | Σ Increase: ↑4.75%)
• Deaths: 23,640 (+1,532 | Δ Change: ↑0.07% | Σ Increase: ↑6.93%)

4/14:

• Cases: 613,886 (+26,945 | Δ Change: ↑1.23% | Σ Increase: ↑4.59%)
• Deaths: 26,047 (+2,407 | Δ Change: ↑57.11% | Σ Increase: ↑10.18%)

4/15:

• Cases: 644,089 (+30,203 | Δ Change: ↑12.09% | Σ Increase: ↑4.92%)
• Deaths: 28,529 (+2,482 | Δ Change: ↑3.12% | Σ Increase: ↑9.53%)

4/16: <Missing Older Cases & Deaths Added / Δ Change Calculations Misleading>

• Cases: 677,570 (+33,481 | Σ Increase: ↑5.20%)
• Deaths: 34,617 (+6,088 | Σ Increase: ↑21.34%)

4/17: <Δ Change Calculations Based on 4/15>

• Cases: 709,735 (+32,165 | Δ Change: ↑6.50% | Σ Increase: ↑4.09%)
• Deaths: 37,154 (+2,537 | Δ Change: ↑2.22% | Σ Increase: ↑7.33%)

4/18:

• Cases: 738,830 (+29,095 | Δ Change: ↓9.54% | Σ Increase: ↑4.75%)
• Deaths: 39,014 (+1,860 | Δ Change: ↓26.69% | Σ Increase: ↑5.01%)

4/19: <Sunday>

• Cases: 764,303 (+25,473 | Δ Change: ↓12.45% | Σ Increase: ↑3.45%)
• Deaths: 40,548 (+1,534 | Δ Change: ↓17.53% | Σ Increase: ↑3.93%)

4/20:

• Cases: 792,759 (+28,456 | Δ Change: ↑11.71% | Σ Increase: ↑3.28%)
• Deaths: 42,514 (+1,966 | Δ Change: ↑28.16% | Σ Increase: ↑4.85%)

4/21:

• Cases: 818,744 (+25,985 | Δ Change: ↓8.68% | Σ Increase: ↑3.72%)
• Deaths: 45,318 (+2,804 | Δ Change: ↑42.62% | Σ Increase: ↑6.60%)

4/22:

• Cases: 848,555 (+29,811 | Δ Change: ↑14.72% | Σ Increase: ↑3.64%)
• Deaths: 47,654 (+2,336 | Δ Change: ↓16.69% | Σ Increase: ↑5.15%)

4/23:

• Cases: 880,204 (+31,649 | Δ Change: ↑6.17% | Σ Increase: ↑3.73%)
• Deaths: 49,845 (+2,191 | Δ Change: ↓6.21% | Σ Increase: ↑4.60%)

4/24:

• Cases: 925,038 (+44,834 | Δ Change: ↑41.70% | Σ Increase: ↑5.09%)
• Deaths: 52,185 (+2,340 | Δ Change: ↑6.80% | Σ Increase: ↑4.69%)

4/25:

• Cases: 960,651 (+35,613 | Δ Change: ↓20.57% | Σ Increase: ↑3.85%)
• Deaths: 54,256 (+2,071 | Δ Change: ↓11.50% | Σ Increase: ↑3.97%)

4/26: <Sunday>

• Cases: 987,160 (+26,509 | Δ Change: ↓25.56% | Σ Increase: ↑2.76%)
• Deaths: 55,413 (+1,157 | Δ Change: ↓44.13% | Σ Increase: ↑2.13%)

4/27:

• Cases: 1,010,299 (+23,139 | Δ Change: ↓12.71% | Σ Increase: ↑2.34%)
• Deaths: 56,797 (+1,384 | Δ Change: ↑19.62% | Σ Increase: ↑2.50%)

4/28 (Yesterday):

• Cases: 1,035,454 (+25,155 | Δ Change: ↑8.71% | Σ Increase: ↑2.49%)
• Deaths: 59,252 (+2,455 | Δ Change: ↑77.38% | Σ Increase: ↑4.32%)

4/29 (Today):

• Cases: 1,064,572 (+29,118 | Δ Change: ↑15.75% | Σ Increase: ↑2.81%)
• Deaths: 61,669 (+2,417 | Δ Change: ↓1.55% | Σ Increase: ↑4.08%)

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

I thought California was supposed to be a success story.  How is it a success if six weeks later, we have to crack down even more?

It seems like the more evidence we have that our strategy is failing, the more we are doubling down on it.

[Pericles]

https://mobile.twitter.com/CBSLA/status/1255699561399619584

Here come the fun police.

I don't think it would be much fun for those people at the beaches, their family members or other random people they pass the virus onto to be hooked up on ventilators.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

https://mobile.twitter.com/CBSLA/status/1255699561399619584

Here come the fun police.

I don't think it would be much fun for those people at the beaches, their family members or other random people they pass the virus onto to be hooked up on ventilators.

What new evidence do we have today that we didn’t have last week (or six weeks ago) suggesting that closing parks and beaches will reduce serious virus cases? 

If anything, the new evidence from studies in the past week or two indicate that outdoor transmission is NOT a significant source of infection (on top of all the evidence that has accumulated suggesting the lockdowns in general are a failure).

[Dr. Arch]

https://mobile.twitter.com/CBSLA/status/1255699561399619584

Here come the fun police.

I don't think it would be much fun for those people at the beaches, their family members or other random people they pass the virus onto to be hooked up on ventilators.

What new evidence do we have today that we didn’t have last week (or six weeks ago) suggesting that closing parks and beaches will reduce serious virus cases? 

If anything, the new evidence from studies in the past week or two indicate that outdoor transmission is NOT a significant source of infection (on top of all the evidence that has accumulated suggesting the lockdowns in general are a failure).

Wow, I wasted a lot of effort explaining the whole thing about stay at home orders to you so that you would acknowledge it and then turn around the next day and say the same thing here in bold again. Noted.

I hope that others benefited from the exchange at least.

[emailking]

Wow, I wasted a lot of effort explaining the whole thing about stay at home orders to you so that you would acknowledge it and then turn around the next day and say the same thing here in bold again. Noted.

I hope that others benefited from the exchange at least.

Yes from your posts and some others I am mostly convinced the lockdowns have worked.

[Dr. Arch]

Wow, I wasted a lot of effort explaining the whole thing about stay at home orders to you so that you would acknowledge it and then turn around the next day and say the same thing here in bold again. Noted.

I hope that others benefited from the exchange at least.

Yes from your posts and some others I am mostly convinced the lockdowns have worked.

There is light in the world yet.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

https://mobile.twitter.com/CBSLA/status/1255699561399619584

Here come the fun police.

I don't think it would be much fun for those people at the beaches, their family members or other random people they pass the virus onto to be hooked up on ventilators.

What new evidence do we have today that we didn’t have last week (or six weeks ago) suggesting that closing parks and beaches will reduce serious virus cases?  

If anything, the new evidence from studies in the past week or two indicate that outdoor transmission is NOT a significant source of infection (on top of all the evidence that has accumulated suggesting the lockdowns in general are a failure).

Wow, I wasted a lot of effort explaining the whole thing about stay at home orders to you so that you would acknowledge it and then turn around the next day and say the same thing here in bold again. Noted.

I hope that others benefited from the exchange at least.

IIRC, your explanation was that the stay at home orders were not intended to reduce the total number of infections, but merely to spread those infections out over a longer period of time.  

I agree the restrictions will do that.  And if you are satisfied with 200 million Americans being infected and more than a million American deaths, I suppose you could say the restrictions are working.  I just don’t think much of the public would agree with you.

[Landslide Lyndon]

https://mobile.twitter.com/CBSLA/status/1255699561399619584

Here come the fun police.

I don't think it would be much fun for those people at the beaches, their family members or other random people they pass the virus onto to be hooked up on ventilators.

I was about to say the same thing. The shortsightedness and indifference of some people never ceases to amaze me.

[It’s so Joever]

Looking at the current trends in cases per day, testing, and positivity rates, I think 10-12 States can probably safely begin reopening. Ironically, many of the States that should reopen aren’t while the ones that are reopening shouldn’t.

[Smeulders]

Looking at the current trends in cases per day, testing, and positivity rates, I think 10-12 States can probably safely begin reopening. Ironically, many of the States that should reopen aren’t while the ones that are reopening shouldn’t.

Whether re-opening makes sense only depends on current case numbers to a small degree. What matters is whether states and countries have a plan to keep R below 1 after the re-opening. Less cases helps, as it makes contact tracing more feasible. Opening with a low numbers of cases, but insufficient ability to test and quarantine just means you start a countdown clock to the next lockdown.

[wbrocks67]

https://mobile.twitter.com/CBSLA/status/1255699561399619584

Here come the fun police.

People have proven they can't be trusted to do the right thing. Newsom is right to shut it all down.

[Meclazine for Israel]

The Australian Government talks about its own strategy and those of other nations when dealing with the pandemic.

Corona Virus Update

https://youtu.be/aWl7kQZHZE0

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/1255837450053857281

[Blue3]

When will they release the unemployment rate? It has to be over 15%.

[emailking]

When will they release the unemployment rate? It has to be over 15%.

That's tomorrow I think.

[Holmes]

When will they release the unemployment rate? It has to be over 15%.

First Friday of every month, so tomorrow.

[ProudModerate2]

Kushner calls US coronavirus response a "great success story."

President Donald Trump's senior adviser and son-in-law, Jared Kushner, praised the administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic as a "great success story" on Wednesday -- less than a day after the number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States topped 1 million.

Kushner painted a rosy picture for "Fox and Friends" Wednesday morning, saying that "the federal government rose to the challenge and this is a great success story and I think that that's really what needs to be told."

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/29/politics/jared-kushner-coronavirus-success-story/index.html

[GoTfan]

Meanwhile we're plunging into another Great Depression. That frightens me most of all.

[Storr]

Kushner calls US coronavirus response a "great success story."

President Donald Trump's senior adviser and son-in-law, Jared Kushner, praised the administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic as a "great success story" on Wednesday -- less than a day after the number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States topped 1 million.

Kushner painted a rosy picture for "Fox and Friends" Wednesday morning, saying that "the federal government rose to the challenge and this is a great success story and I think that that's really what needs to be told."


https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/29/politics/jared-kushner-coronavirus-success-story/index.html

There's no way can actually believe this. That's the thing I dislike most about Kushner, Trump is delusional enough to actually believe it's been "a great success story", while Kushner always looks exactly like someone who knows he's lying through his teeth. Then he tries to compensate by acting like a pretentious rich child whenever he's asked about his lies by reporters.