Joe Biden's case

[Landslide Lyndon]

Biden is following the HRC playbook and will lose as a result of it.

Democratic doners wanted to keep Bernie out even if it meant a Trump re-election, and they'll get it.

Bernie lost to Hillary and now Biden. If anything the Bernie playbook is a losing one.

Bernie bros don't understand that by trashing Clinton and Biden they essentially admit that their hero is a terrible politician.

[SN2903]

Democratic fanboys are going to be surprised when "I'm not Trump" doesn't win the election for Biden. Are people really this delusional? Biden could win in a squeaker, but anybody who thinks Joe walks away with this clearly isn't paying attention. In Biden's best case scenario, he wins the NPV by ~4 points, which would be a close electoral college victory.

In 2016, the DNC bootlickers were so sure that Hillary being "not Trump" would allow her to win Texas and Georgia. News flash: Biden's more of a disaster than HRC ever was. People watch Biden and walk away thinking the man's senile, regardless of whether he is or isn't.

Biden's numbers are only going to drop as we get closer to November. Trump's an incumbent executive who will end up lying so much about his own record that many people will forget his horrible handling of this crisis, and Biden doesn't have the skills to push him on his record. Joe will lose.

Yep. Trump is the chief executive during a crisis and is handling it well. He literally takes the press scrutiny for 2 hours every single day and his administration is working around the clock. Biden has no real chance.

[SN2903]

Biden is following the HRC playbook and will lose as a result of it.

Democratic doners wanted to keep Bernie out even if it meant a Trump re-election, and they'll get it.

Let's see, Biden is much more liked than Hillary was, & voter turnout for him in the primaries has been hitting record highs in many states (especially in those that Bernie won in 2016 but Biden has now won in 2020). But sure, he's Hillary 2.0. Definitely.

He's not much more liked than Hillary. He's a joke . Hillary is at least respected and was viewed as qualified. Biden is viewed as senile. You seriously still don't get why Trump is winning do you? He's a no nonsense leader and this crisis the country wants a  strong executive . They will not change horses.

[Arizona Iced Tea]

Biden is following the HRC playbook and will lose as a result of it.

Democratic doners wanted to keep Bernie out even if it meant a Trump re-election, and they'll get it.

Let's see, Biden is much more liked than Hillary was, & voter turnout for him in the primaries has been hitting record highs in many states (especially in those that Bernie won in 2016 but Biden has now won in 2020). But sure, he's Hillary 2.0. Definitely.

He's not much more liked than Hillary. He's a joke . Hillary is at least respected and was viewed as qualified. Biden is viewed as senile. You seriously still don't get why Trump is winning do you? He's a no nonsense leader and this crisis the country wants a  strong executive . They will not change horses.

Hillary at least excited a lot of people as a candidate. I don't like identity politics but the woman card absolutely encouraged people to show up for her. She was also very talented as a politician and decimated Trump at that first GE debate. Biden isn't someone people like, the establishment just went around him because they had no one else. He also has dementia, and it's really sad to watch him. Yes, Biden does better with blue collars than Hillary, but Trump is much more powerful than he was back in 2016 so those advantages neutralize.

[brucejoel99]

Biden is following the HRC playbook and will lose as a result of it.

Democratic doners wanted to keep Bernie out even if it meant a Trump re-election, and they'll get it.

Let's see, Biden is much more liked than Hillary was, & voter turnout for him in the primaries has been hitting record highs in many states (especially in those that Bernie won in 2016 but Biden has now won in 2020). But sure, he's Hillary 2.0. Definitely.

He's not much more liked than Hillary. He's a joke . Hillary is at least respected and was viewed as qualified. Biden is viewed as senile. You seriously still don't get why Trump is winning do you? He's a no nonsense leader and this crisis the country wants a  strong executive . They will not change horses.

lol k

Hillary at least excited a lot of people as a candidate. I don't like identity politics but the woman card absolutely encouraged people to show up for her. She was also very talented as a politician and decimated Trump at that first GE debate. Biden isn't someone people like, the establishment just went around him because they had no one else. He also has dementia, and it's really sad to watch him. Yes, Biden does better with blue collars than Hillary, but Trump is much more powerful than he was back in 2016 so those advantages neutralize.

Y'all really aren't gonna ever stop peddling this debunked BS, are you?

[ElectionsGuy]

If Joe Biden is smart, he should spend a whole lot of time nailing Trump on healthcare. It's a massive Republican weak spot, like seriously what is Trump's healthcare policy? Just rip up Obamacare? Hold his feet to the fire on that question and force him to defend unpopular positions. But will Joe Biden do that? He can barely make a coherent case for himself and I'm afraid will spend too much time focusing on broad themes like the "dignity" and "soul" of the nation which are losing 2016-esque mistakes. So I believe there are many ways Biden can win this election, I'm just not terribly confident he's going to execute on the right strategies to do so.

"Not Trump" is great for Democrats, but not great for most independents and swing voters. You have to offer a clear and concise alternative as to how you'll make people's lives better. If/when Joe Biden loses, it won't be surprising to me.

[Tipping Point]

Joe Biden's case is "I'm not Trump" and, frankly, that's enough for me.

So he's Hillary 2.0 that means he's toast.