Will you #votebluenomatterwho?

[Green Line]

If you're NeverTrump, you'll for the Democrat nominee no matter what.  Anything else is a vote for Trump by proxy.

Wrong, Never Trumper's voting Independent hurts Trump because that divides the Republican vote

If you were never voting Trump in the first place, its not dividing anything.  You can't divide something he never had.  If you're not voting for his closest rival you're obviously not that concerned about him winning again.

Lol no , Trump needs the votes he can from Never Trumpers(or nonvoters) to make up for the fact that turnout will be higher than 2016. I despise Bernie utterly and will not vote for him.

So you're fine with Trump being relected if it comes to him or Bernie.  You won't do anything to actively prevent it.  Thats NOT Never Trump.

[OSR stands with Israel]

If you're NeverTrump, you'll for the Democrat nominee no matter what.  Anything else is a vote for Trump by proxy.

Wrong, Never Trumper's voting Independent hurts Trump because that divides the Republican vote

If you were never voting Trump in the first place, its not dividing anything.  You can't divide something he never had.  If you're not voting for his closest rival you're obviously not that concerned about him winning again.

Lol no , Trump needs the votes he can from Never Trumpers(or nonvoters) to make up for the fact that turnout will be higher than 2016. I despise Bernie utterly and will not vote for him.

So you're fine with Trump being relected if it comes to him or Bernie.  You won't do anything to actively prevent it.  Thats NOT Never Trump.

Yes that is Never Trump means not voting for him and besides Trump cannot afford to lose Republican voters so yes I am hurting Trump by not voting for Bernie.


I truly despise Bernie and I could not in good conscience vote for him as he is horrible in every way possible. He is basically Jermey Corbyn but just hides it better than Corbyn does.

[Green Line]

If you're NeverTrump, you'll for the Democrat nominee no matter what.  Anything else is a vote for Trump by proxy.

Wrong, Never Trumper's voting Independent hurts Trump because that divides the Republican vote

If you were never voting Trump in the first place, its not dividing anything.  You can't divide something he never had.  If you're not voting for his closest rival you're obviously not that concerned about him winning again.

Lol no , Trump needs the votes he can from Never Trumpers(or nonvoters) to make up for the fact that turnout will be higher than 2016. I despise Bernie utterly and will not vote for him.

So you're fine with Trump being relected if it comes to him or Bernie.  You won't do anything to actively prevent it.  Thats NOT Never Trump.

Yes that is Never Trump means not voting for him and besides Trump cannot afford to lose Republican voters so yes I am hurting Trump by not voting for Bernie.


I truly despise Bernie and I could not in good conscience vote for him as he is horrible in every way possible. He is basically Jermey Corbyn but just hides it better than Corbyn does.

That makes no sense..

Its a cop out.  You throwing your vote away helps Trump.  Is there a viable third party candidate with a shot at winning?  No.  You will be responsible for his reelection.

[OSR stands with Israel]

If you're NeverTrump, you'll for the Democrat nominee no matter what.  Anything else is a vote for Trump by proxy.

Wrong, Never Trumper's voting Independent hurts Trump because that divides the Republican vote

If you were never voting Trump in the first place, its not dividing anything.  You can't divide something he never had.  If you're not voting for his closest rival you're obviously not that concerned about him winning again.

Lol no , Trump needs the votes he can from Never Trumpers(or nonvoters) to make up for the fact that turnout will be higher than 2016. I despise Bernie utterly and will not vote for him.

So you're fine with Trump being relected if it comes to him or Bernie.  You won't do anything to actively prevent it.  Thats NOT Never Trump.

Yes that is Never Trump means not voting for him and besides Trump cannot afford to lose Republican voters so yes I am hurting Trump by not voting for Bernie.


I truly despise Bernie and I could not in good conscience vote for him as he is horrible in every way possible. He is basically Jermey Corbyn but just hides it better than Corbyn does.

That makes no sense..

Its a cop out.  You throwing your vote away helps Trump.  Is there a viable third party candidate with a shot at winning?  No.  You will be responsible for his reelection.

Then dont nominate a person who is pro Fidel Castro, Pro USSR, pro Hugo Chavez ,and is Anti Hindu(just like Corbyn is Anti-Semitic and he is anti-Hindu in the same way Corbyn is Anti-Semtic)

[Green Line]

If you're NeverTrump, you'll for the Democrat nominee no matter what.  Anything else is a vote for Trump by proxy.

Wrong, Never Trumper's voting Independent hurts Trump because that divides the Republican vote

If you were never voting Trump in the first place, its not dividing anything.  You can't divide something he never had.  If you're not voting for his closest rival you're obviously not that concerned about him winning again.

Lol no , Trump needs the votes he can from Never Trumpers(or nonvoters) to make up for the fact that turnout will be higher than 2016. I despise Bernie utterly and will not vote for him.

So you're fine with Trump being relected if it comes to him or Bernie.  You won't do anything to actively prevent it.  Thats NOT Never Trump.

Yes that is Never Trump means not voting for him and besides Trump cannot afford to lose Republican voters so yes I am hurting Trump by not voting for Bernie.


I truly despise Bernie and I could not in good conscience vote for him as he is horrible in every way possible. He is basically Jermey Corbyn but just hides it better than Corbyn does.

That makes no sense..

Its a cop out.  You throwing your vote away helps Trump.  Is there a viable third party candidate with a shot at winning?  No.  You will be responsible for his reelection.

Then dont nominate a person who is pro Fidel Castro, Pro USSR, pro Hugo Chavez ,and is Anti Hindu(just like Corbyn is Anti-Semitic and he is anti-Hindu in the same way Corbyn is Anti-Semtic)

Dead. Dissolved. Dead. Laughable.

[OSR stands with Israel]

If you're NeverTrump, you'll for the Democrat nominee no matter what.  Anything else is a vote for Trump by proxy.

Wrong, Never Trumper's voting Independent hurts Trump because that divides the Republican vote

If you were never voting Trump in the first place, its not dividing anything.  You can't divide something he never had.  If you're not voting for his closest rival you're obviously not that concerned about him winning again.

Lol no , Trump needs the votes he can from Never Trumpers(or nonvoters) to make up for the fact that turnout will be higher than 2016. I despise Bernie utterly and will not vote for him.

So you're fine with Trump being relected if it comes to him or Bernie.  You won't do anything to actively prevent it.  Thats NOT Never Trump.

Yes that is Never Trump means not voting for him and besides Trump cannot afford to lose Republican voters so yes I am hurting Trump by not voting for Bernie.


I truly despise Bernie and I could not in good conscience vote for him as he is horrible in every way possible. He is basically Jermey Corbyn but just hides it better than Corbyn does.

That makes no sense..

Its a cop out.  You throwing your vote away helps Trump.  Is there a viable third party candidate with a shot at winning?  No.  You will be responsible for his reelection.

Then dont nominate a person who is pro Fidel Castro, Pro USSR, pro Hugo Chavez ,and is Anti Hindu(just like Corbyn is Anti-Semitic and he is anti-Hindu in the same way Corbyn is Anti-Semtic)

Dead. Dissolved. Dead. Laughable.

Shows hes pro Commie no matter what . The fact that he sided with the USSR, Sandinistas , Castro's Cuba in the cold war shows he isnt a patriot . I mean those actions are not small and are super Anti-American and the fact he hasnt apolgized for any of this is disgraceful in every way possible


Also on being Anti Hindu: He repeatedly has repeated Pakstani Propoganda just like Corbyn did the same with Anti Israeli propaganda, he has pro Sharia adivsors, and has been a strong opponent of high skilled immigration his entire career while he supports amnesty for the Illegals

[RC]

Probably unless it’s Sanders. Thankfully since I live in CT it won’t matter much but I have a particular hatred for Bernie. Would vote Chafee over him.

[Mr. Illini]

I will vote for the Democratic nominee. Blue no matter who.

I'm not a fan of Bernie's far left foreign policy tendencies, but the idea that he is "anti-Hindu" is so unbelievably ridiculous. I know this isn't the place for a debate over this, but to spin critique of Modi's government in that way is irresponsible.

The Hindu ethno-nationalist wave in India at the moment is inseparable from the current wave of white nationalism in America and Europe. If you're #NeverTrump, you must be #NeverModi.

[OSR stands with Israel]

I will vote for the Democratic nominee. Blue no matter who.

I'm not a fan of Bernie's far left foreign policy tendencies, but the idea that he is "anti-Hindu" is so unbelievably ridiculous. I know this isn't the place for a debate over this, but to spin critique of Modi's government in that way is irresponsible.

The Hindu ethno-nationalist wave in India at the moment is inseparable from the current wave of white nationalism in America and Europe. If you're #NeverTrump, you must be #NeverModi.

I dislike Trump cause of his behavior , I don’t not dislike him cause of his policies . Also Modi isn’t an ethno-nationalist to say so is ridiculous (If you pm me I can discuss more about this because this isn’t the place for that ) and while Trump is personally despicable and a bigoted his policies really aren’t (even on immigration they basically are just reversing Obama era policies).


Also Bernie has taken then the Pakistani side on the Kashmir issue almost 100% , and that has nothing to do with the new immigration bill India passed , that is Bernie copying Corbyn except instead of Israel-Palestine it’s India-Pakistan (but I am sure the both of them agree with each other as well on Israel and India).


Lastly Bernie has been one of the biggest opponents of high skilled immigration his entire career

[TPIG]

Yes. I considered simply leaving the top spot blank in November, depending on the Democratic nominee. However, since Georgia is likely in play, and this president is a clear and present danger to the long-term health of our entire system of government, yes, I will vote for whomever the Democrats nominate.

[Dr. Arch]

Yes. I considered simply leaving the top spot blank in November, depending on the Democratic nominee. However, since Georgia is likely in play, and this president is a clear and present danger to the long-term health of our entire system of government, yes, I will vote for whomever the Democrats nominate.

 

[BP🌹]

Also on being Anti Hindu: He repeatedly has repeated Pakstani Propoganda just like Corbyn did the same with Anti Israeli propaganda, he has pro Sharia adivsors, and has been a strong opponent of high skilled immigration his entire career while he supports amnesty for the Illegals

You're anti-Muslim and anti-Chinese.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Also on being Anti Hindu: He repeatedly has repeated Pakstani Propoganda just like Corbyn did the same with Anti Israeli propaganda, he has pro Sharia adivsors, and has been a strong opponent of high skilled immigration his entire career while he supports amnesty for the Illegals

You're anti-Muslim and anti-Chinese.

Um what this is clearly false in every way possible.

I have a question do you think almost everyone who isn’t a strong opponent of US foreign policy is bigoted in that way because if that is true then you are clearly false.

[Kingpoleon]

No, I don’t feel compelled to vote for someone I disagree with.

[Dereich]

I will not be voting for Donald Trump, but no force on earth could compel me to vote for Bernie Sanders. So no.

[BP🌹]

Also Bernie has taken then the Pakistani side on the Kashmir issue almost 100% , and that has nothing to do with the new immigration bill India passed , that is Bernie copying Corbyn except instead of Israel-Palestine it’s India-Pakistan (but I am sure the both of them agree with each other as well on Israel and India).

This is hilarious. You think a man who once lived on a kibbutz views Israel in the same way that Jeremy Corbyn does?

He always prefaces any criticism of Israel with muh right to exist.

Yes, he has floated the possibility of axing military aid. But so have Warren and Buttigieg. But I doubt any of them would follow through - they don't want to die.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Also Bernie has taken then the Pakistani side on the Kashmir issue almost 100% , and that has nothing to do with the new immigration bill India passed , that is Bernie copying Corbyn except instead of Israel-Palestine it’s India-Pakistan (but I am sure the both of them agree with each other as well on Israel and India).

This is hilarious. You think a man who once lived on a kibbutz views Israel in the same way that Jeremy Corbyn does?

He always prefaces any criticism of Israel with muh right to exist.

Yes, he has floated the possibility of axing military aid. But so have Warren and Buttigieg. But I doubt any of them would follow through - they don't want to die.

Yes cause of how anti American Socialist Interest groups are and Bernie this time unlike last time has fully embraced every single one of those interest groups and they generally are anti Israel cause to them , Israel is a strong ally of the US and for that reason they must be opposed .

[Kyng]

I'm British, so I won't get to vote in 2020 - but, if I could, then the answer would be 'Yes'. I have my problems with the Democrats (sometimes major ones), but ultimately, in 2020 I would be a single-issue voter, and that single issue would be Donald Trump. I simply find the man utterly repulsive on a visceral level.

In previous elections, I might have been tempted by some of the third parties - particularly if I was in an uncompetitive state. However, in 2020, they don't appeal to me: the Libertarians seem like a bit of a joke, and the Greens offer me nothing I like that the Democrats don't also offer.

[Yellowhammer]

Yes. I considered simply leaving the top spot blank in November, depending on the Democratic nominee. However, since Georgia is likely in play, and this president is a clear and present danger to the long-term health of our entire system of government, yes, I will vote for whomever the Democrats nominate.

You’re a democrat, and your true colors are coming out. If you’re willing to assist a communist takeover of the executive branch — if your willing to abet the utter and irreversible destruction of our constitutional republic, simply  because our moderate, centrist Republican President is too “radical” or “indecent” for you peculiar tastes — get out, forever. You can’t do it fast enough! Get out of our party and join arms with your own kind.
Folks like yourself do not belong with us. We can’t allow our ranks to be filled with feckless democrats-in-all-but-name who are utterly incapable and unwilling of fighting for what’s right and making rational decisions.

[TPIG]

Yes. I considered simply leaving the top spot blank in November, depending on the Democratic nominee. However, since Georgia is likely in play, and this president is a clear and present danger to the long-term health of our entire system of government, yes, I will vote for whomever the Democrats nominate.

You’re a democrat, and your true colors are coming out. If you’re willing to assist a communist takeover of the executive branch — if your willing to abet the utter and irreversible destruction of our constitutional republic, simply  because our moderate, centrist Republican President is too “radical” or “indecent” for you peculiar tastes — get out, forever. You can’t do it fast enough! Get out of our party and join arms with your own kind.
Folks like yourself do not belong with us. We can’t allow our ranks to be filled with feckless democrats-in-all-but-name who are utterly incapable and unwilling of fighting for what’s right and making rational decisions.

Firstly, who are the communists trying to take over our government? The furthest left person I see is Bernie Sanders, who is a moderate social democrat, by world standards. Single payer healthcare and free college tuition aren't the same things as the government seizing the means of production or putting people in gulags. Do a bit more research on the nuances of political ideologies before you make statements like that.

Secondly, it's funny to see you acting as if President Donald "First take the guns, then do due process" Trump, the guy who was pro-choice, pro-single payer, and pro-Hillary, literally 10 years ago is the standard definition of what it means to be a conservative. Also, real conservatives respect the rule of law and the Constitution - two things for which Trump has total disregard.

Finally, it's interesting to accuse me of embracing left-wing authoritarianism when you seem to have a problem sharing a party with anyone who doesn't lick Trump's boots. Sounds a lot like Stalin's approach towards dissenters or the CCP's approach towards anti-Xi thinkers, ya commie

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Fascinated by TCG's current status and YellowHammer's liberal use of the word "communist".

[TPIG]

Fascinated by TCG's current status and YellowHammer's liberal use of the word "communist".

I have moderated on a few issues, but overall I'm still a conservative. I've just simply been so dispirited by Trump's control over the GOP that I took a much more critical lens to many arguments used by conservatives on various issues and found a number of them lacking. The free-wheeling use of the terms communist and socialist when NO major presidential candidate is running on those platforms is particular annoying and intellectually lazy.

[TJ in Oregon]

Fascinated by TCG's current status and YellowHammer's liberal use of the word "communist".

I have moderated on a few issues, but overall I'm still a conservative. I've just simply been so dispirited by Trump's control over the GOP that I took a much more critical lens to many arguments used by conservatives on various issues and found a number of them lacking. The free-wheeling use of the terms communist and socialist when NO major presidential candidate is running on those platforms is particular annoying and intellectually lazy.

I'm in a strangely opposite position in that Donald Trump, while clearly evil, is to blatantly obviously the lesser of the two evils in most of the matchups that the question is whether or not I vote for him or a random throwaway candidate like last time. It's also interesting in that I see Sanders as far less evil than the other major Democratic candidates: he has some out-there views that seem genuine and at least less strongly committed to the deconstruction of society than most of his party rivals.

[fhtagn]

I'm likely going 3rd party or write in this year.

Not all that supportive of Trump, and there isn't a single respectable Democrat running.

[Green Line]

ThatConservativeGuy is no longer a fit for the modern Republican Cult.  Hopefully he will now come to the party of responsible government, with Bill Kristol and I.  I'm proud of him.