New Hampshire Primary Thread (polls close at 6-7 CT)

[Lisa's voting Biden]

CNN calls it for Bernie.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

It's a pretty weak victory for Sanders here. The moderate wing far outshined him. Sanders simply will not beat Trump in November if he's nominated.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

ABC has now allocated all 24 of New Hampshire’s delegates: nine each for Sanders and Buttigieg and six for Klobuchar. That brings the candidates’ delegate totals after the first two contests to:
Buttigieg: 23
Sanders: 21
Warren: 8
Klobuchar: 7
Biden: 6

Does this make Pete the frontrunner?

[Reaganfan]

On the GOP side, Donald Trump has more popular votes than Reagan, Clinton, Bush or Obama had during their New Hampshire Primary re-election results.

[junior chįmp]

I'm glad his victory margin is so underwhelming.

He doesn't have the suburban appeal to beat Trump.

This was the same argument made by Orange County Republicans in why Katie Porter couldn't win.

At the end of the day....people will vote their identity regardless of the nominee or their ideology

[Zanas]

CNN calls it for Sanders, margin still 4200 votes, which will end up being a 1.5pt lead, which is indeed underwhelming for Sanders. Still, it's 2 out of 2 popular vote wins in a very fractured slate, and Biden gets crushed, so a good night overall.

[Skill and Chance]

OSR unironically thinks that Obama probably wishes he had lost in 2012 to save the country from Trump. He’s an unwitting troll not worth engaging.

Obviously Obama would have preferred two terms of Romney who probably was the most moderate nominee since 1976 vs a second term where he barely got anything done then(and the things he did where reversed by Trump) and then followed up by Trump

That's probably true, but he'd prefer Clinton won in 2016 over any of that, so...

Obviously but he would prefer Romney 2012 over OTL

Huh?

Obamacare still 90% exists today.  It's completely gone if Romney wins in 2012 (assuming the senate flips, which I suppose isn't a given).  Romney could have pushed major entitlement cuts through as well, of the kind Trump thus far won't touch.

If Romney wins twice, Scalia likely retires in 2013 and Kennedy by 2017 if not also in 2013, so SCOTUS would still be right leaning today.

[It’s so Joever]

If Buttigieg is somehow Macron, then Sanders is Corbyn, full stop.

[Lisa's voting Biden]

FOX calls it for Bernie

[538Electoral]

Interesting.

[SN2903]

Van Jones doesn't know what he's going talking about. Trump was winning by bigger margins than Bernie is this year even early on. There is clearly a majority of dems that do not want Bernie but the vote is split right now.

[RI]

If Buttigieg is somehow Macron, then Sanders is Corbyn, full stop.

Both are true.

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

Almost in a snap, the news narrative has flipped to "Bernie won the popular vote in 2 of 2 states"

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Has any presidential candidate ever won any primary with less than 26% of the vote.  I found a couple examples of candidates winning with 27%, but no one lower than Sanders tonight as far as I can tell. (Santorum won the Iowa caucus with ~24%.)

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

I'm glad his victory margin is so underwhelming.

He doesn't have the suburban appeal to beat Trump.

This was the same argument made by Orange County Republicans in why Katie Porter couldn't win.

At the end of the day....people will vote their identity regardless of the nominee or their ideology

I wouldn't say Philly Romney-Clinton voters would safely identify themselves as Democrats though.

[Skill and Chance]

I'm glad his victory margin is so underwhelming.

He doesn't have the suburban appeal to beat Trump.

This was the same argument made by Orange County Republicans in why Katie Porter couldn't win.

At the end of the day....people will vote their identity regardless of the nominee or their ideology

I wouldn't say Philly Romney-Clinton voters would safely identify themselves as Democrats though.

Sanders probably would keep most Romney-Clinton voters.  He'd have a huge problem keeping any Trump-2018 Dem voters, though, and he needs them to win the EC. 

[Florida Man for Crime]

It's a pretty weak victory for Sanders here. The moderate wing far outshined him. Sanders simply will not beat Trump in November if he's nominated.

If you are basing that on this primary, then it would stand to reason that all the other candidates - who received less votes than Sanders did - would do even worse in the General.

The reality though is that (for any of the candidates, regardless of who is winning or losing) primary results don't have all that much to do with general election performance.

[It’s so Joever]

I'm glad his victory margin is so underwhelming.

He doesn't have the suburban appeal to beat Trump.

This was the same argument made by Orange County Republicans in why Katie Porter couldn't win.

At the end of the day....people will vote their identity regardless of the nominee or their ideology

I wouldn't say Philly Romney-Clinton voters would safely identify themselves as Democrats though.

That’s what they want you to believe. Secretly, the wine guzzling soccer moms are hardcore proletariat advocates eagerly anticipating the revolution.

[TrendsareUsuallyReal]

I'm glad his victory margin is so underwhelming.

He doesn't have the suburban appeal to beat Trump.

This was the same argument made by Orange County Republicans in why Katie Porter couldn't win.

At the end of the day....people will vote their identity regardless of the nominee or their ideology

I wouldn't say Philly Romney-Clinton voters would safely identify themselves as Democrats though.

Romney-Clinton voters are about as uniformly liberal Democrat nowadays as Obama-Clinton voters and multiple studies have confirmed that

[junior chįmp]

I'm glad his victory margin is so underwhelming.

He doesn't have the suburban appeal to beat Trump.

This was the same argument made by Orange County Republicans in why Katie Porter couldn't win.

At the end of the day....people will vote their identity regardless of the nominee or their ideology

I wouldn't say Philly Romney-Clinton voters would safely identify themselves as Democrats though.

That’s what they want you to believe. Secretly, the wine guzzling soccer moms are hardcore proletariat advocates eagerly anticipating the revolution.

Your right....they don't want revolution. They are simply voting against Trump. Same reason commie Lee Carter won in Prince County VA

[Statilius the Epicurean]

LOL at Buttigieg claiming he's won New Hampshire.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

HOORAY!!!  An incredible victory for Senator Sanders and working class people across this country!  Two states have voted and TWO states have given Mr. Sanders the most votes.  Just amazing!  

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

I'm glad his victory margin is so underwhelming.

He doesn't have the suburban appeal to beat Trump.

This was the same argument made by Orange County Republicans in why Katie Porter couldn't win.

At the end of the day....people will vote their identity regardless of the nominee or their ideology

I wouldn't say Philly Romney-Clinton voters would safely identify themselves as Democrats though.

Sanders probably would keep most Romney-Clinton voters.  He'd have a huge problem keeping any Trump-2018 Dem voters, though, and he needs them to win the EC. 

I want to expand Democratic gains in the suburbs... the candidates who are best equipped for that, in my opinion, are Klobuchar and Bloomberg.

[T'Chenka]

LOL at Buttigieg claiming he's won New Hampshire.

Pete sure loves Fake News.

[It’s so Joever]

LOL at Buttigieg claiming he's won New Hampshire.

I know right?! Bernie would never claim victory in a State he lost! Gosh what a rat!