Iowa Caucus Results Thread (pg 148 - full results)

[BP🌹]

If we go back to all the pages when Buttigieg was winning, you won't find a single person going "lol suck it Bernie Bros" or anything similar.  I didn't write anything like that.  None of the other anti-Sanders people did either.

We've all been congratulatory of Mayor Pete, eye-rolling at the implosion engulfing the Sanders camp, and speculative about what this means for Biden+Bloomberg.

Sanders hasn't been the likely victor for even an hour and this thread already has a couple of "lol suck it haters, can't wait to watch you cry when Bernie wins" type takes.  And that's basically what all of social media is like too.

Stay mad.

{Hoes mad music video}

Don't hate us 'cause you ain't us

+ several more posters gleefully celebrating apparent cheating-ish behavior by Sanders.

So?

[GoTfan]

If we go back to all the pages when Buttigieg was winning, you won't find a single person going "lol suck it Bernie Bros" or anything similar.  I didn't write anything like that.  None of the other anti-Sanders people did either.

We've all been congratulatory of Mayor Pete, eye-rolling at the implosion engulfing the Sanders camp, and speculative about what this means for Biden+Bloomberg.

Sanders hasn't been the likely victor for even an hour and this thread already has a whole bunch of "lol suck it haters, can't wait to watch you cry when Bernie wins" type takes.

Normally I wouldn't use this gif and my stomach turns over at the mere thought of doing it, but this is an opportunity that doesn't come along often.


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[GeneralMacArthur]

If we go back to all the pages when Buttigieg was winning, you won't find a single person going "lol suck it Bernie Bros" or anything similar.  I didn't write anything like that.  None of the other anti-Sanders people did either.

We've all been congratulatory of Mayor Pete, eye-rolling at the implosion engulfing the Sanders camp, and speculative about what this means for Biden+Bloomberg.

Sanders hasn't been the likely victor for even an hour and this thread already has a couple of "lol suck it haters, can't wait to watch you cry when Bernie wins" type takes.  And that's basically what all of social media is like too.

Stay mad.

{Hoes mad music video}

Don't hate us 'cause you ain't us

+ several more posters gleefully celebrating apparent cheating-ish behavior by Sanders.

So?

Just illustrates how this primary is a conflict between much more than simply two different ideologies.

[Gracile]

It's kind of funny that on the early pages a bunch of us were saying that the satellite caucuses would have no impact on the final results, yet now it looks possible that they might put Sanders over the edge.

[Adam Griffin]

THE ARROW HAS RETURNED

[BlueSwan]

If we go back to all the pages when Buttigieg was winning, you won't find a single person going "lol suck it Bernie Bros" or anything similar.  I didn't write anything like that.  None of the other anti-Sanders people did either.

We've all been congratulatory of Mayor Pete, eye-rolling at the implosion engulfing the Sanders camp, and speculative about what this means for Biden+Bloomberg.

Sanders hasn't been the likely victor for even an hour and this thread already has a couple of "lol suck it haters, can't wait to watch you cry when Bernie wins" type takes.  And that's basically what all of social media is like too.

Stay mad.

{Hoes mad music video}

Don't hate us 'cause you ain't us

+ several more posters gleefully celebrating apparent cheating-ish behavior by Sanders.

So?

So? I think the point is that the Sanders supporters are the ones creating division in the democratic camp by being incredibly sore losers and even worse winners, always cooking up conspiracy theories when they lose (and even sometimes when they don't) and wanting to stick it to the losers when they win. Remember that it is not just the "establishment" candidates who needs the support of Sandernistas if they win the nomination, Sanders desperately needs the support of all the center-left people and moderates in the democratic camp, if he wins the nomination. Actually sowing division is a really bad strategy if Sanders wants to be president and not just the democratic nominee. Party unity will be extremely important come november, regardless of who the nominee is. Please be mindful of this.

[John Dule]

Do my eyes deceive me or does NYT have Yang at 4th place in Adair County-- ahead of Biden and Warren?

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

If we go back to all the pages when Buttigieg was winning, you won't find a single person going "lol suck it Bernie Bros" or anything similar.  I didn't write anything like that.  None of the other anti-Sanders people did either.

We've all been congratulatory of Mayor Pete, eye-rolling at the implosion engulfing the Sanders camp, and speculative about what this means for Biden+Bloomberg.

Sanders hasn't been the likely victor for even an hour and this thread already has a couple of "lol suck it haters, can't wait to watch you cry when Bernie wins" type takes.  And that's basically what all of social media is like too.

Stay mad.

{Hoes mad music video}

Don't hate us 'cause you ain't us

+ several more posters gleefully celebrating apparent cheating-ish behavior by Sanders.

HOES MAD, HOES MAD, HOES MAD

[Florida Man for Crime]

THE ARROW HAS RETURNED

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

So here is where we are with 7 of the 13 caucus sites accounted for:

CD1 Satellite: Cedar Rapids Public Library, Whipple Auditorium: 24
CD1 Satellite: Hoover Elementary School: 121
CD1 Satellite: RWDSU Local 110: 20
CD1 Satellite: UAW Local 838: 20
CD1 Satellite: Mayflower Retirement Community Carmen Center: 72
CD1 Satellite: Kirkwood Community College Recreation Center : at least 61
CD1 Satellite: Drake Library: 98

Might be mid sized
CD1 Satellite: University of Dubuque Blades Chapel; Charles and Romonda Myers Center

Union Halls
CD1 Satellite: UAW Local 893
CD1 Satellite: UAW Local 94

Retirement Homes
CD1 Satellite: Edgewood Convalescent
CD1 Satellite: Faith Luthern Home
CD1 Satellite: The Meth-Wick Community

There were at least 416 caucus attendees, so there need to be 185 more to reach 601 to double the number of delegates.

Seems eminently feasible to reach those numbers, but I’m wondering if the nursing homes won’t put a dent in Bernie’s satellite caucus advantage.

[GoTfan]

If we go back to all the pages when Buttigieg was winning, you won't find a single person going "lol suck it Bernie Bros" or anything similar.  I didn't write anything like that.  None of the other anti-Sanders people did either.

We've all been congratulatory of Mayor Pete, eye-rolling at the conspiritard implosion engulfing the Sanders camp, and speculative about what this means for Biden+Bloomberg.

Sanders hasn't been the likely victor for even an hour and this thread already has a couple of "lol suck it haters, can't wait to watch you cry when Bernie wins" type takes.  And that's basically what all of social media is like too.

Stay mad.

{Hoes mad music video}

Don't hate us 'cause you ain't us

+ several more posters gleefully celebrating apparent cheating-ish behavior by Sanders.

So?

So? I think the point is that the Sanders supporters are the ones creating division in the democratic camp by being incredibly sore losers and even worse winners, always cooking up conspiracy theories when they lose (and even sometimes when they don't) and wanting to stick it to the losers when they win. Remember that it is not just the "establishment" candidates who needs the support of Sandernistas if they win the nomination, Sanders desperately needs the support of all the center-left people and moderates in the democratic camp, if he wins the nomination. Actually sowing division is a really bad strategy if Sanders wants to be president and not just the democratic nominee. Party unity will be extremely important come november, regardless of who the nominee is. Please be mindful of this.

Oh please. Look on any of his posts on the Sanders campaign thread and you'll see just how deranged anti-Sanders folks are.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Buttigieg isn't an establishment candidate anyway.  Nobody wanted him to get in the race and he was polling at 1% for months.  He wasn't competitive when he ran for DNC chair.  He's endorsed by six US representatives and three DNC members.  He's a mayor nobody's ever heard of with little history in the party.  That's hardly the profile of an establishment insider.

He is establishment relative to Sanders, simply because he doesn't actively try to make everyone hate him.  If Sanders wasn't in the race, Buttigieg would be the most outsider of the viable candidates.

You can say the same thing about progressive/moderate.  Everyone keeps calling Buttigieg a moderate simply because he's not as far left as Warren and Sanders.  But he has far more progressive positions and is much further left than Biden, Klobuchar, or the army of senators who burned out.

[Mehmentum]

So here is where we are with 7 of the 13 caucus sites accounted for:

CD1 Satellite: Cedar Rapids Public Library, Whipple Auditorium: 24
CD1 Satellite: Hoover Elementary School: 121
CD1 Satellite: RWDSU Local 110: 20
CD1 Satellite: UAW Local 838: 20
CD1 Satellite: Mayflower Retirement Community Carmen Center: 72
CD1 Satellite: Kirkwood Community College Recreation Center : at least 61
CD1 Satellite: Drake Library: 98

Might be mid sized
CD1 Satellite: University of Dubuque Blades Chapel; Charles and Romonda Myers Center

Union Halls
CD1 Satellite: UAW Local 893
CD1 Satellite: UAW Local 94

Retirement Homes
CD1 Satellite: Edgewood Convalescent
CD1 Satellite: Faith Luthern Home
CD1 Satellite: The Meth-Wick Community

There were at least 416 caucus attendees, so there need to be 185 more to reach 601 to double the number of delegates.

Seems eminently feasible to reach those numbers, but I’m wondering if the nursing homes won’t put a dent in Bernie’s satellite caucus advantage.

They didn't in the other CDs.

[Badger]

If team Buttigieg is so concerned about potential manipulation of the SDE count we could always just look at the popular vote and use that to decide who wins.

Lol good response

[TWTown]

I think it's better for Biden if Pete does end up losing Iowa especially because his dismal results haven't been on display. This has gone from a disaster to something that can be managed for the Biden campaign.

[GoTfan]

Buttigieg isn't an establishment candidate anyway.  Nobody wanted him to get in the race and he was polling at 1% for months.  He wasn't competitive when he ran for DNC chair.  He's endorsed by six US representatives and three DNC members.  He's a mayor nobody's ever heard of with little history in the party.  That's hardly the profile of an establishment insider.

He is establishment relative to Sanders, simply because he doesn't actively try to make everyone hate him.  If Sanders wasn't in the race, Buttigieg would be the most outsider of the viable candidates.

You can say the same thing about progressive/moderate.  Everyone keeps calling Buttigieg a moderate simply because he's not as far left as Warren and Sanders.  But he has far more progressive positions and is much further left than Biden, Klobuchar, or the army of senators who burned out.

Mate . . . he literally positioned himself as the anti-Medicare for All candidate.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

I think it's better for Biden if Pete does end up losing Iowa especially because his dismal results haven't been on display. This has gone from a disaster to something that can be managed for the Biden campaign.

One tenth of a percentage point in an arbitrary metric between Pete and Bernie is not gonna make this any better than Joe Biden, the worst frontrunner of all time.

[NOVA Green]

Very convenient that the IDP withheld the full results long enough to give Buttigieg a few days of media coverage as the 'winner' and depriving Sanders of a bounce before New Hampshire. Very convenient for him.

Yes. It is convenient. But not intentional.

Man I'm so tired of this conspiracy theory.

This stuff always does seem to happen to Bernie though. It is sort of uncanny.

It really doesn't though. There have been plenty of "unusual" stuff happening to the benefit of Sanders.

First up, the media, and Rachel Maddow in particular, thought it was great fun to prop up this little known obscure senator from Vermont in 2015 to make some sort of a race against Clinton (it is often overlooked that the media more than being biased, just wants a good story). I swear there was a period of a few months during 2015 where Maddow EVERY SINGLE NIGHT would report on the record crowds that Sanders was getting at his rallies. Every night.

Second, some of the greatest anomalies from the 2016 primaries actually benefitted Sanders. The single biggest upset was in Michigan (as far as I remember, can't be bothered to look it up now), where Sanders won despite being down by double digits in the polls. I'm positive that had it been the other way around, the Sandernistas would have cried foul game.

Third, the "rigged" system often benefitted Sanders, like the entire stupid caucus system. Sanders pretty consistently got slaughtered by Clinton in "real" primaries, but he won at caucuses which has much lower participation rates and where having a fired up or even abusive supporter base helps a lot.

Fourth, this Iowa satellite caucus thing...it's totally legit, but we all know how the Sandernistas would have reacted had it been Buttigieg employing this strategy. Don't act like you don't know that to be 100% true. Youtube and Twitter would have exploded with DNC/Buttigieg conspiracy theories.

Thought you have to teach a Poly-Sci Class in Denmark in a few Hours?

Crowd-Sourcing Atlas will def provide material on IA, and I'm sure you already got the Impeachment deal covered for your Undergrads....

Crazy Week in American politics, but happy to help be one of a hundred to help provide you with the "Raw Material" for the the student workers in the sweatshops of Academia.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Savio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yew51uYHYV4

[TWTown]

I think it's better for Biden if Pete does end up losing Iowa especially because his dismal results haven't been on display. This has gone from a disaster to something that can be managed for the Biden campaign.

One tenth of a percentage point in an arbitrary metric between Pete and Bernie is not gonna make this any better than Joe Biden, the worst frontrunner of all time.

Biden has run a terrible campaign but I think his campaign isn't too unhappy at the prospect of Pete being pushed into second.

[Walmart_shopper]

Very convenient that the IDP withheld the full results long enough to give Buttigieg a few days of media coverage as the 'winner' and depriving Sanders of a bounce before New Hampshire. Very convenient for him.

Yes. It is convenient. But not intentional.

Man I'm so tired of this conspiracy theory.

This stuff always does seem to happen to Bernie though. It is sort of uncanny.

It's not just that he gets screwed. He is running to lead a party that he kind of wants to rip apart. Of course he gets screwed.

The amazing thing is that the Democrats are willing to utterly capsize their party--give power to pop tart small town mayors, commit suppuku with obviously bad candidates like Clinton and Biden--just to keep Bernie out. Bernie doesn't even meed to campaign at this point. If primary voters cannot see for themselves what a catastrophe their party is then they deserve perpetual governance by carnival barking people like Donald Trump.

[Adam Griffin]

Their estimates are showing a tie when rounded to the whole number (560-560), so this is based on Bernie literally winning by a fraction of a SDE.

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1225314230183829504

[Sorenroy]

If we go back to all the pages when Buttigieg was winning, you won't find a single person going "lol suck it Bernie Bros" or anything similar.  I didn't write anything like that.  None of the other anti-Sanders people did either.

85% in.

Pete’s lead expands to 45 delegate equivalents.

Pete won IA.

Lets go!

Suck it Bernie Bros!

I mean, how much more direct can it get?

[GeneralMacArthur]

Buttigieg isn't an establishment candidate anyway.  Nobody wanted him to get in the race and he was polling at 1% for months.  He wasn't competitive when he ran for DNC chair.  He's endorsed by six US representatives and three DNC members.  He's a mayor nobody's ever heard of with little history in the party.  That's hardly the profile of an establishment insider.

He is establishment relative to Sanders, simply because he doesn't actively try to make everyone hate him.  If Sanders wasn't in the race, Buttigieg would be the most outsider of the viable candidates.

You can say the same thing about progressive/moderate.  Everyone keeps calling Buttigieg a moderate simply because he's not as far left as Warren and Sanders.  But he has far more progressive positions and is much further left than Biden, Klobuchar, or the army of senators who burned out.

Mate . . . he literally positioned himself as the anti-Medicare for All candidate.

You guys just keep changing the definition of "progressive" to mean "agrees with Bernie Sanders on everything."  He came up with a version of Medicare For All that accomplishes the exact same end result, but is revenue-neutral and much more politically popular.  I'd say that makes him a better progressive than Sanders.

So? I think the point is that the Sanders supporters are the ones creating division in the democratic camp by being incredibly sore losers and even worse winners, always cooking up conspiracy theories when they lose (and even sometimes when they don't) and wanting to stick it to the losers when they win. Remember that it is not just the "establishment" candidates who needs the support of Sandernistas if they win the nomination, Sanders desperately needs the support of all the center-left people and moderates in the democratic camp, if he wins the nomination. Actually sowing division is a really bad strategy if Sanders wants to be president and not just the democratic nominee. Party unity will be extremely important come november, regardless of who the nominee is. Please be mindful of this.

Oh please. Look on any of his posts on the Sanders campaign thread and you'll see just how deranged anti-Sanders folks are.

MacArthur derangement syndrome strikes again.  Y'all just post lies about me being some lunatic and expect everyone to believe it.  Go ahead and post my most "deranged" take from the last ten pages of the Sanders thread.

[Antonio the Sixth]

HOLY SH*T THEY PROJECT A F**KING TIE

hahahahahahahahahaha

[TWTown]

I wonder if Pete will retract his victory tweet.