Sex-Orientation Discrimination Bill

[bgwah]

interesting

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2002771908_webeyman30.html

For those to lazy to read, Tim Eyeman is filing an initiative/referendum to overturn the decision.

[Frodo]

Gregoire signs Civil Rights Act into law:
Landmark legislation extends protections to gays and lesbians

By JAKE ELLISON
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER

It's official. Gov. Christine Gregoire has signed into law the landmark legislation that expands the Washington Civil Rights Act to protect gays and lesbians from discrimination in employment, housing and lending.

“I am proud that finally, after far too many years, the State of Washington has taken an affirmative stand to say to gay and lesbian individuals, moms and dads, sons and daughters, neighbors, co-workers and friends, living in Washington State that they are, like all other people, free to work in an environment absent discrimination,” the governor said in a prepared statement.

The Senate passed the legislation Friday in a 25-23 roll-call vote that ended nearly 30 years of debate over the issue. Gregoire signed the legislation this morning.

source

[afleitch]

Good news

[A18]

It is if you hate freedom

[afleitch]

It is if you hate freedom

If you love freedom and liberty, you should be overjoyed at the prospect of a whole group of people being liberated from the threat of discrimination

[A18]

It is if you hate freedom

If you love freedom and liberty, you should be overjoyed at the prospect of a whole group of people being liberated from the threat of discrimination

Maybe you should be overjoyed at the prospect of reinstituting slavery, since a whole group of people (slaveowners) would be 'liberated' from having to work.

[afleitch]

It is if you hate freedom

If you love freedom and liberty, you should be overjoyed at the prospect of a whole group of people being liberated from the threat of discrimination

Maybe you should be overjoyed at the prospect of reinstituting slavery, since a whole group of people (slaveowners) would be 'liberated' from having to work.

So you're comparing homosexuals to slave owners now?

[Democratic Hawk]

Aye - I'm vehemenently opposed to all forms of discrimination (and yes, I include affirmative action)

Dave

What about competence?  Isn't only hiring a person you perceive as competent a form of discrimination?

No, I think the issue of competence, whether an applicant is more capable or more qualified, than other applicants, to do the job for which they have applied should be form the basis of the decision for whom to employ or not. It should have nowt to do with age,  gender, race, physical attractiveness, sexual orientation, weight, .....

Dave

[Emsworth]

It is if you hate freedom

If you love freedom and liberty, you should be overjoyed at the prospect of a whole group of people being liberated from the threat of discrimination

Maybe you should be overjoyed at the prospect of reinstituting slavery, since a whole group of people (slaveowners) would be 'liberated' from having to work.

So you're comparing homosexuals to slave owners now?

The argument is that, just as slaves were forced to work against their will, bigots are being forced to serve customers against their will.

[afleitch]

It is if you hate freedom

If you love freedom and liberty, you should be overjoyed at the prospect of a whole group of people being liberated from the threat of discrimination

Maybe you should be overjoyed at the prospect of reinstituting slavery, since a whole group of people (slaveowners) would be 'liberated' from having to work.

So you're comparing homosexuals to slave owners now?

The argument is that, just as slaves were forced to work against their will, bigots are being forced to serve customers against their will.

I thought as much. But it's an awful analogy.

[bgwah]

It is if you hate freedom

If you love freedom and liberty, you should be overjoyed at the prospect of a whole group of people being liberated from the threat of discrimination

Maybe you should be overjoyed at the prospect of reinstituting slavery, since a whole group of people (slaveowners) would be 'liberated' from having to work.

Spend less time arguing about how gays should not be included, and more time about how the entire "anti-discrimination" thing should be abolished.

Or you could keep pretending to be a Libertarian, if you want.

[afleitch]

It is if you hate freedom

If you love freedom and liberty, you should be overjoyed at the prospect of a whole group of people being liberated from the threat of discrimination

Maybe you should be overjoyed at the prospect of reinstituting slavery, since a whole group of people (slaveowners) would be 'liberated' from having to work.

Spend less time arguing about how gays should not be included, and more time about how the entire "anti-discrimination" thing should be abolished.

Or you could keep pretending to be a Libertarian, if you want.

I am not 'pretending' to be a libertarian. But I do deal with reality rather than in theory, and in practice there is no way we can allow people to simply discriminate against whom they choose or half the country would probably be out of work and spend each day being knocked back from every establishment in their local community!

[bgwah]

^ I was replying to Philip.

[afleitch]

^ I was replying to Philip.

I'm sorry :/ Please accept my apologies, i often get wound up tight over issues close to my heart.

I may as well take 5 and have a cup of tea

[A18]

Spend less time arguing about how gays should not be included, and more time about how the entire "anti-discrimination" thing should be abolished.

What a stupid post. I'll talk about whatever the issue at hand is: in this case, outlawing discrimination against gays. If the topic was about anti-discrimination laws in general, then I'd argue about that.

You must be logged in to read this quote.

I have no clue what that sentence is talking about.

EDITED because some people whine too much.

[afleitch]

I don't know what you're even talking about, but you're a fag, so shut up.

That was uncalled for, and I was very close to reporting it. But if thats the strength of your argument- just giving up and exchanging insults then it's not even worth me reporting.

[A18]

Uh, that wasn't an 'argument.' I'm sorry you're too dumb to understand.

[afleitch]

Uh, that wasn't an 'argument.' I'm sorry you're too dumb to understand.

You don't just call someone a 'fag, so shut up.' when you get stuck for things to say!

[A18]

Um, I already responded to his 'point' (which, while incredibly dumb, was at least intelligible).

The last sentence has absolutely no relation to anything else said in this topic, other than that it does appear to be English.

[opebo]

It is if you hate freedom

If you love freedom and liberty, you should be overjoyed at the prospect of a whole group of people being liberated from the threat of discrimination

Maybe you should be overjoyed at the prospect of reinstituting slavery, since a whole group of people (slaveowners) would be 'liberated' from having to work.

So you're comparing homosexuals to slave owners now?

The argument is that, just as slaves were forced to work against their will, bigots are being forced to serve customers against their will.

Not at all Emsworth!  They may simply close their business if they do not wish to serve customers!

For someone who is always advocating that the option of ceasing work and starving to death demonstrates workers' freedom, it is odd that you don't see the same principle in operation with owners!

[A18]

The point is that one is being coerced, and the other is not.

[opebo]

The point is that one is being coerced, and the other is not.

No, they are both being coerced in those examples - the owner being coerced to serve the black, and the worker being coerced to not consume the 'property' of the owner.

[Sam Spade]

More useless bureaucratic nonsense.

[Democratic Hawk]

Rather than having separate anti-discrimination legislation for different groups, would it not be more feasible to have a uniform Good Employment Practices Act, to which all employers adhere, which covers, among other things, recruitment?

Dave

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

Republican - Aye.

Hopefully someday, such legislation will be unnecessary and redundant.