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« Reply #625 on: November 01, 2021, 11:08:45 AM »

So, surprise surprise, the commission has officially failed to draw a map and congressional mapmaking is headed back to the legislature. What do we think is the most likely scenario now? Is there any chance that Republicans don't go for a four-year map? Will they try to split Hamilton twice and pair Cincinnati with a bunch of rurals, thereby saving Chabot? Will the Ohio Supreme Court get involved and, if so, what will they do?

Aren't there unambiguous, constitutionally binding rules against unnecessary county-splitting?

Technically I think the amendment passed in 2018 allows Hamilton County to be split twice as long as no actual cities within it are split. A bunch of laser eyes teens on Twitter have taken this to mean that they're going to go for a 13-2 map, but I tend to think that's pretty unlikely.
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« Reply #626 on: November 03, 2021, 10:09:47 AM »

So, surprise surprise, the commission has officially failed to draw a map and congressional mapmaking is headed back to the legislature. What do we think is the most likely scenario now? Is there any chance that Republicans don't go for a four-year map? Will they try to split Hamilton twice and pair Cincinnati with a bunch of rurals, thereby saving Chabot? Will the Ohio Supreme Court get involved and, if so, what will they do?

Aren't there unambiguous, constitutionally binding rules against unnecessary county-splitting?

Technically I think the amendment passed in 2018 allows Hamilton County to be split twice as long as no actual cities within it are split. A bunch of laser eyes teens on Twitter have taken this to mean that they're going to go for a 13-2 map, but I tend to think that's pretty unlikely.
About that...

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« Reply #627 on: November 03, 2021, 10:15:59 AM »

good lord
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« Reply #628 on: November 03, 2021, 10:19:52 AM »

Jesus christ that is horrific and not even efficient. It also looks objectively illegal( as in a judge can't ignore it) because of the Toledo seat.
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« Reply #629 on: November 03, 2021, 10:21:29 AM »

WTF is that mess?   
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« Reply #630 on: November 03, 2021, 10:23:35 AM »

Jesus christ that is horrific and not even efficient. It also looks objectively illegal( as in a judge can't ignore it) because of the Toledo seat.
Also 12/13/14 due to joint county splitting.
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« Reply #631 on: November 03, 2021, 10:30:23 AM »

District 1 seems to be a Biden seat and 15 is only Trump +9. Not as fast left trending though as it is more South Columbus based.
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« Reply #632 on: November 03, 2021, 10:33:18 AM »

Yeah, no way the Ohio State Supreme Court would approve this map.
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« Reply #633 on: November 03, 2021, 10:55:23 AM »

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« Reply #634 on: November 03, 2021, 11:03:21 AM »

That OH-1 district is horrific.
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« Reply #635 on: November 03, 2021, 11:32:39 AM »

For how ugly it is it isn’t even like it’s the most effective map they could make
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« Reply #636 on: November 03, 2021, 11:45:16 AM »

This is like NC where they seem to just be giving the finger to the State Supreme Court out of spite
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« Reply #637 on: November 03, 2021, 12:33:21 PM »

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« Reply #638 on: November 03, 2021, 12:39:47 PM »



This looks even more illegal.
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« Reply #639 on: November 03, 2021, 12:41:59 PM »

These are revolting. Please do something about this OHSC
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« Reply #640 on: November 03, 2021, 12:43:03 PM »

Better look:

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« Reply #641 on: November 03, 2021, 12:44:04 PM »
« Edited: November 03, 2021, 12:47:59 PM by Stuart98 »

Senate plan is still illegal, 7 and 14 both split two counties between eachother. Unless I'm mistaken, the only situation where that's allowed is if both counties have a population over 400k.

EDIT: Hmm, the state constitution isn't actually clear on this.

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    (7) No two congressional districts shall share portions of the territory of more than one county, except for a county whose population exceeds four hundred thousand.

Gonna be litigated, but Republicans probably have the case that only one of the two counties has to be over 400k. OHSC will throw it out for other reasons though.
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« Reply #642 on: November 03, 2021, 12:49:56 PM »

What an awful map. Gerrymandering must be banned all across the country.

Also, give me Marcy Kaptur in next Congress or give me a death!
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« Reply #643 on: November 03, 2021, 01:12:18 PM »

Like why crack the black Columbus community between the R districts instead of just you know the logical pack ?
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« Reply #644 on: November 03, 2021, 01:42:19 PM »

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« Reply #645 on: November 03, 2021, 02:09:31 PM »

I'd love to know how Ohio Republicans plan to explain how their maps don't "unduly favor any political party" 

That'd be an interesting court document to read.
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« Reply #646 on: November 03, 2021, 02:37:22 PM »

Pretty sure a 3-way split of Hamilton is also illegal under the new OH provision. At best for the GOP they have to significantly modify their maps.

Also WTF the GOP really tryna crack Columbus? What could go wrong?
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« Reply #647 on: November 03, 2021, 02:38:05 PM »

Pretty sure a 3-way split of Hamilton is also illegal under the new OH provision. At best for the GOP they have to significantly modify their maps.

Also WTF the GOP really tryna crack Columbus? What could go wrong?

A 3 way split of Hamilton/Montgomery/Summit/Cuyahoga/Franklin are all legal.
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« Reply #648 on: November 03, 2021, 02:41:36 PM »

Is cracking Columbus a racial gerrymander?
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« Reply #649 on: November 03, 2021, 02:45:24 PM »

Is cracking Columbus a racial gerrymander?
Potentially.
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