Joe Biden 2020 campaign megathread v3 (pg 45 - mass-dropout aftermath)

[pppolitics]

Continuing to get déjà vu here

The pitch of "Biden is a decent person and Trump is an awful man!" will work about as well as "Hillary is a decent person and Trump is an awful man!".

Two differences:

1. In 2016, Trump was only a potentially awful President.  Now he has a record as a demonstrably awful President.

2. Hillary was smeared enough to come across as "not decent" to many people.  Although Trump will certainly try the same tactics with Biden, I don't think it will be as successful against him.

The biggest irony is that Hillary was seen as cold and calculating.

Meanwhile, Uncle Joe goes around making gaffes everywhere, so he is seen as authentic.

[indietraveler]

Qualifications, personality, and whatever else you want to use to compare Biden to Clinton doesn't matter. Fairly or not, the years and decades of trashing Hillary Clinton in every which way possible was a factor to her loss and lack of enthusiasm in her campaign. I think people continually underestimate this and the fact that a lot of primary states are blowing past their 2016 turnout levels (resulting in Biden's favor) is showing this.

[Chief Justice Keef]

Continuing to get déjà vu here

The pitch of "Biden is a decent person and Trump is an awful man!" will work about as well as "Hillary is a decent person and Trump is an awful man!".

Two differences:

1. In 2016, Trump was only a potentially awful President.  Now he has a record as a demonstrably awful President.

2. Hillary was smeared enough to come across as "not decent" to many people.  Although Trump will certainly try the same tactics with Biden, I don't think it will be as successful against him.

1. If the economy hasn't completely been tanked by the coronavirus in November (it'll be a tough summer but the world will hopefully pull through) then that won't matter to a lot of voting independents and moderate Republicans, who really only experienced the horrors of Trump's presidency on an aesthetic level.

2. Biden will absolutely be painted as mentally unfit and unprepared by Trump's campaign. Hannity is already doing it. If we get to the debate stage and Biden is still making verbal gaffes and trying to get out of talking for too long then it's going to be one hell of a contrast against Trump who evidently had a fairly good stage presence in the 2016 debates.

[pppolitics]

Continuing to get déjà vu here

The pitch of "Biden is a decent person and Trump is an awful man!" will work about as well as "Hillary is a decent person and Trump is an awful man!".

Two differences:

1. In 2016, Trump was only a potentially awful President.  Now he has a record as a demonstrably awful President.

2. Hillary was smeared enough to come across as "not decent" to many people.  Although Trump will certainly try the same tactics with Biden, I don't think it will be as successful against him.

1. If the economy hasn't completely been tanked by the coronavirus in November (it'll be a tough summer but the world will hopefully pull through) then that won't matter to a lot of voting independents and moderate Republicans, who really only experienced the horrors of Trump's presidency on an aesthetic level.

2. Biden will absolutely be painted as mentally unfit and unprepared by Trump's campaign. Hannity is already doing it. If we get to the debate stage and Biden is still making verbal gaffes and trying to get out of talking for too long then it's going to be one hell of a contrast against Trump who evidently had a fairly good stage presence in the 2016 debates.

Did you remember Trump actually debating in 2016?

It was a huge disaster.

[NYSforKennedy2024]

Gretchen Whitmer, Val Demings, and Tammy Duckworth have all endorsed Joe today.

Extremely beneficial endorsements from three potential running mates.

[Panhandle Progressive]

Gretchen Whitmer, Val Demings, and Tammy Duckworth have all endorsed Joe today.

So did the DFP, the newspaper with the largest circulation in Michigan.

https://twitter.com/freep/status/1235554923175120898

[2016]

Sanders has an African-American Problem, Joe Biden though has an even bigger Problem: He lost the Hispanic/Latino Vote to Sanders in every single State with Mayor Hispanic Population...

Texas: 26-39 to Sanders

Colorado: 17-45 to Sanders

California: 22-49 to Sanders

Nevada: 17-50 to Sanders

Biden is losing them whether it's a Caucus or a Primary.

Hispanics are the fastest growing Population in the Country. Seems like that they are still sour on him after all the promises from the Obama/Biden Administration for 8 years.

As long as Sanders winning them there is no reason to get OUT of the Race.

[pppolitics]

Sanders has an African-American Problem, Joe Biden though has an even bigger Problem: He lost the Hispanic/Latino Vote to Sanders in every single State with Mayor Hispanic Population...

Texas: 26-39 to Sanders

Colorado: 17-45 to Sanders

California: 22-49 to Sanders

Nevada: 17-50 to Sanders

Biden is losing them whether it's a Caucus or a Primary.

Hispanics are the fastest growing Population in the Country. Seems like that they are still sour on him after all the promises from the Obama/Biden Administration for 8 years.

As long as Sanders winning them there is no reason to get OUT of the Race.

Huge problem with this argument:

Nevada was before South Carolina

Colorado, California, and Texas have big portion of votes that were cast early (before South Carolina).

[2016]

Sanders has an African-American Problem, Joe Biden though has an even bigger Problem: He lost the Hispanic/Latino Vote to Sanders in every single State with Mayor Hispanic Population...

Texas: 26-39 to Sanders

Colorado: 17-45 to Sanders

California: 22-49 to Sanders

Nevada: 17-50 to Sanders

Biden is losing them whether it's a Caucus or a Primary.

Hispanics are the fastest growing Population in the Country. Seems like that they are still sour on him after all the promises from the Obama/Biden Administration for 8 years.

As long as Sanders winning them there is no reason to get OUT of the Race.

Huge problem with this argument:

Nevada was before South Carolina

Colorado, California, and Texas have big portion of votes that were cast early (before South Carolina).

Your Argument is going down the drain:
Biden lost Hispanics on both Accounts, Early and E-Day Vote in CO, CA, TX.

Lots of promises where made by Obama even in his first 4 years about Immigration, nothing came to fruition. And then when things were not going well for that Obama jerk in the WH always blame Republicans. I'm sick and tired of this.

[wbrocks67]

Sanders has an African-American Problem, Joe Biden though has an even bigger Problem: He lost the Hispanic/Latino Vote to Sanders in every single State with Mayor Hispanic Population...

Texas: 26-39 to Sanders

Colorado: 17-45 to Sanders

California: 22-49 to Sanders

Nevada: 17-50 to Sanders

Biden is losing them whether it's a Caucus or a Primary.

Hispanics are the fastest growing Population in the Country. Seems like that they are still sour on him after all the promises from the Obama/Biden Administration for 8 years.

As long as Sanders winning them there is no reason to get OUT of the Race.

These aren't necessarily indicative though, considering he probably would've (or did) consolidate a lot of Amy/Pete/Bloomberg's hispanic vote as well. Will be interesting going forward what it looks like.

He also won Hispanics in North Carolina.

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1235081805184798721

Oh, the sweet times when USA had a FREE press.

[President Johnson]

This graph is absolutely insane.

[Storr]

This graph is absolutely insane.

Joementum.

[Rookie Yinzer]

https://twitter.com/pavanvan/status/1235581291044704257?s=20

[Matty]

Question about biden’s Public Option healthcare plan

Would it be just one plan or will the govt offer many different plans, to increase consumer choice?

[OSR stands with Israel]

Bernie should be asked if he knows what the difference between a Beveridge and Bismarck system is

[😥]

Question about biden’s Public Option healthcare plan

Would it be just one plan or will the govt offer many different plans, to increase consumer choice?

Can you just stop write Biden's name in lowercase letters?
The first letter of the name is written in capital letters.
You have no moral right to despise Biden and/or other candidates. And you know it. So, please, continue writing Joe Biden's name in capital letters

[Arizona Iced Tea]

https://twitter.com/TCPigott/status/1234649597336866816
Pass the torch!

[Bidenworth2020]

https://twitter.com/TCPigott/status/1234649597336866816
Pass the torch!

Not those exact words, but Pete talked about that general idea a ton in debates. This is not a gaffe, once again.

[Illini Moderate]

https://twitter.com/TCPigott/status/1234649597336866816
Pass the torch!

This was absolutely not a gaffe and its a damn lie to insinuate otherwise

[Arizona Iced Tea]

https://twitter.com/TCPigott/status/1234649597336866816
Pass the torch!

Not those exact words, but Pete talked about that general idea a ton in debates. This is not a gaffe, once again.

Swalwell in the debate addressing Biden: "Time to pass the torch to a new generation of Americans."
Biden: "In the debates about passing the torch to the next generation."
Yeah, that was totally not Swalwell he was thinking about.

[Bidenworth2020]

https://twitter.com/TCPigott/status/1234649597336866816
Pass the torch!

Not those exact words, but Pete talked about that general idea a ton in debates. This is not a gaffe, once again.

Swalwell in the debate addressing Biden: "Time to pass the torch to a new generation of Americans."
Biden: "In the debates about passing the torch to the next generation."
Yeah, that was totally not Swalwell he was thinking about.

I understand Swalwell talked about passing the torch. With that being said, he was taking about generational shifts more broadly.

[DrScholl]

The narrative has shifted from "BERNIE IS THE NOMINEE, GET BEHIND HIM!" to "BIDEN IS SENILE!!".

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

The narrative has shifted from "BERNIE IS THE NOMINEE, GET BEHIND HIM!" to "BIDEN IS SENILE!!".

BECAUSE IT'S TRUE! _{(just kidding)}

[GeneralMacArthur]

The narrative has shifted from "BERNIE IS THE NOMINEE, GET BEHIND HIM!" to "BIDEN IS SENILE!!".

Yeah, the morning after Super Tuesday I was told the Berners were going to accept defeat and it was time to unify and end the divisiveness.

Now they've all gotten the marching orders:  Push the "Biden is [redacted by moderator]" narrative at every opportunity.