Oh boy!

[Former President tack50]

I don't disavow any of those comments. I'll give context and people can decide for themselves.

(1) This was in the middle of a conversation about jewish people. Others in the server where that was posted think jewish people are a problem, I don't think they are. I think all wealthy people are a problem. I am anti-wealth.

(2) An Islamic China would be world ending. This isn't controversial. I don't approve of their methods, but they have prevented religion from taking over their state. Theocracy is bad.

(3) Things happen when you have a lot of people concentrated in one place. This is why we need to combat balkanization and focus on integration. In a large country, you will not eliminate gun violence.

1) The concept "The Jewish issue" or "the jewish question" is a concept most commonly associated with neo-nazi and similar other antisemitic discussion places. So why would you even mention it in the first place? Where exactly were you that that the concept of "The jewish issue" was being discussed? And why would Jewish people be an issue to be debated in the first place?

2) What the hell does "sniffing out moslems" even mean? Do muslims need to be sniffed out? And then what is done? Also; China is a huge country of 1.4 billion people; of which approximately 18 million or 1.3% are muslim. Needless to say, an Islamic China isn't happening any time soon.

3) That is most certainly not what that comment means. Thr, you know fully well I am not an "open borders, let everyone in" person and that I am (arguably) one of the more conservative members of the Labor party on immigration and that I fully insist integration is needed for all immigrants.

However, that comment and your "explanation" have nothing to do with each other. Your comment implies that there is no way people of other races can ever be integrated without violence, which is pretty much the opposite of trying to integrate people. How can you defend integrating (non-white) immigrants if you think violence is a reality of multiracial society?

I will also add that there are plenty of people from different races that have lived in Atlasia since hundreds of years. Atlasia has never been a racially homogenous country in its history to my knowledge. So how knowing that, how is a multiracial society and violence related to immigration?

[Former President tack50]

1) The concept "The Jewish issue" or "the jewish question" is a concept most commonly associated with neo-nazi and similar other antisemitic discussion places. So why would you even mention it in the first place? Where exactly were you that that the concept of "The jewish issue" was being discussed? And why would Jewish people be an issue to be debated in the first place?

That is not my terminology, I was responding to somebody else's comment, which was itself a response to a tweet:

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2) What the hell does "sniffing out moslems" even mean? Do muslims need to be sniffed out? And then what is done? Also; China is a huge country of 1.4 billion people; of which approximately 18 million or 1.3% are muslim. Needless to say, an Islamic China isn't happening any time soon.

It was in reference to the Chinese detention camps. I oppose any sort of violence, including that measure, but I oppose theocracy as well. Religious fundamentalism of any sort is vile. Here is the context for that quote:

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3) That is most certainly not what that comment means. Thr, you know fully well I am not an "open borders, let everyone in" person and that I am (arguably) one of the more conservative members of the Labor party on immigration and that I fully insist integration is needed for all immigrants.

However, that comment and your "explanation" have nothing to do with each other. Your comment implies that there is no way people of other races can ever be integrated without violence, which is pretty much the opposite of trying to integrate people. How can you defend integrating (non-white) immigrants if you think violence is a reality of multiracial society?

Except it is. The quote is a response from Audman, and I replied to his query affirmatively when he asked why there isn't violence in white areas (there is):

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I will also add that there are plenty of people from different races that have lived in Atlasia since hundreds of years. Atlasia has never been a racially homogenous country in its history to my knowledge. So how knowing that, how is a multiracial society and violence related to immigration?

I am a nationalist, but I resent ethnonationalists. All Americans have the right to live happy and freely in the USA, and all Atlasians have the right to live and work happy in Atlasia and their regions.

1) No it was not responding to someone's comment or a tweet. You were the first to use the term "jewish issue". That tweet did not mention it and Eharding didn't either (ironically, Eharding, who was banned from Atlas for controversial statements, somehow appears to be the "lesser evil" based off that screenshot)

Especially egrerious now that I notice is the part where you don't know where you fall on "the Jewish issue". How can you put both sides of that "Jewish question" (to the extent that it should even exist) as equals?

2) Well, the exact screenshot Truman posted is nowhere to be found in the "context", so either Truman altered it (I doubt it) or you deleted part of the evidence. No one in that conversation mentioned China until you did.

So I am not content with that explanation. And even if it was a genuine deletion based on regret on your side, why not condemn your own affirmation? Rectifying one's mistakes and saying sorry for dumb comments is what truly wise people do.

3) Again the context doesn't exactly exonerate you. I still fail to see the link between the 3 concepts of a multiracial society, immigration and gun violence. In fact I would argue you were the one to bring race into the mix, as the conversation before was about immigration (and while there is a link between race and immigration it's most definitely not a 1:1 correlation)

[Former President tack50]

I'm pretty sure I've seen Truman at least once or twice complain about discord related drama and not wanting it involved in Atlasia. Yet here he is...

What would Atlasia be without the Discord drama and the outrage!

[Former President tack50]

Considering that Labor/Peace party members in the House openly supported anti-Semitism this Congress, the fake outrage in this thread is rich...

citation needed

[Former President tack50]

Well, it's nice to see that the ACP (Atlas Communist Party) does not agree with the free market and free enterprise anymore. Welcome to the resistance comrades

Now seriously, that is a huge leap of faith. BDS should absolutely be condemned, but that bill goes beyond that. As I said back when this was proposed regionally in the South (and defeated, though I believe it got adopted by the next session of the CoD):

This bill seems like a threat to business liberties right? The southern region and all governments in it should be free to do business with whoever they want  (or more likely, with whichever contractor offers the best deal). If a pro-BDS company happens to be the one offering the best deal to the government, then so be it.  

I want only the best from government contracts. A business' political positions may be absolutely deplorable, but that doesn't mean they should not be hired based on that.

If the government was ordering a cake, and the best cake seller was a bakery who didn't want to sell wedding cakes to homosexual couples (as is the classic example for another similar-ish issue), should the government look for another bakery?