MA-SEN Megathread: Senator Markey wins

[Ferguson97]

I honestly like both Markey and Kenendy and think they'd both be great.

[Morning in Atlas]

You accused me of fabricating stories that provided inconvenient truths about your preferred VP's support base. If anyone in this thread has no room to talk about civility, it's you.

Child, calm down. You're taking this thing too seriously.

Not particularly. I'll defend my candidates and continue to call out abject hypocrisy whenever I see it.

And over the past few weeks, I've seen nothing but hypocrisy from your wing of the party.

[Brittain33]

This thread is a cesspool.

Love that dirty water.

[Gass3268]

Bloomberg is backing Markey with some $$$:

https://twitter.com/NikDeCostaKlipa/status/1298448657667313664?s=20

I can only imagine he reaction if if was the other way around. (I'm saying this as a Markey supporter)

[brucejoel99]

Bloomberg is backing Markey with some $$$:

https://twitter.com/NikDeCostaKlipa/status/1298448657667313664?s=20

I can only imagine he reaction if if was the other way around. (I'm saying this as a Markey supporter)

lol what even is this race anymore?

[Morning in Atlas]

This is umm...

Surprising.

[Gass3268]

This is umm...

Surprising.

The twists and turns of this race have been nutty.

[brucejoel99]

Is there some sort-of deep-seeded Bloomberg/Kennedy feud we've never heard about? Bloomberg lobbied for Caroline getting Hillary's Senate seat a while back, so I don't think so? But who knows anymore lmao

[MillennialModerate]

Yeah Bloomberg’s support likely hurts a canidate position as far as progressives go

[ON Progressive]

Is there some sort-of deep-seeded Bloomberg/Kennedy feud we've never heard about? Bloomberg lobbied for Caroline getting Hillary's Senate seat a while back, so I don't think so? But who knows anymore lmao

For all of his flaws, Bloomberg actually does have climate as one of his big issues so it may make sense from that POV. Especially given the super PAC mentioned was formed by a cooperation between the Environment America Action Fund and the Sunrise Movement.

[Oryxslayer]

Between Data for Progress and the new UMass/Lowell poll, it's clear that Markey is the favorite. Kennedy would need the race to seriously change for him to have a clear shot.

[Skye]

Between Data for Progress and the new UMass/Lowell poll, it's clear that Markey is the favorite. Kennedy would need the race to seriously change for him to have a clear shot.

Wouldn't want to bet on primaries, but yeah, Kennedy seems to be a clear underdog ATM. Question is, where does he go from here if he loses? I know people in this thread have said his political career would be over, but I honestly find it hard for a Kennedy to not have a political career in the state if they didn't want to.

[Roblox]

Between Data for Progress and the new UMass/Lowell poll, it's clear that Markey is the favorite. Kennedy would need the race to seriously change for him to have a clear shot.

Wouldn't want to bet on primaries, but yeah, Kennedy seems to be a clear underdog ATM. Question is, where does he go from here if he loses? I know people in this thread have said his political career would be over, but I honestly find it hard for a Kennedy to not have a political career in the state if they didn't want to.

Guessing he goes the NGO or lobbying route.

[brucejoel99]

Between Data for Progress and the new UMass/Lowell poll, it's clear that Markey is the favorite. Kennedy would need the race to seriously change for him to have a clear shot.

Wouldn't want to bet on primaries, but yeah, Kennedy seems to be a clear underdog ATM. Question is, where does he go from here if he loses? I know people in this thread have said his political career would be over, but I honestly find it hard for a Kennedy to not have a political career in the state if they didn't want to.

Yeah, losing one primary as a challenger is hardly a death sentence, especially for a Kennedy in Massachusetts. Not only is the guy young & evidently driven by pure ambition, but again, he's still a Kennedy in Massachusetts, so even if he f**ks up this time, he'll end up being given a 2nd chance a few years from now, be it for Warren's Senate seat (even though it'll be an even harder primary against Pressley) when it's open, or Governor when Baker leaves.

[Morning in Atlas]

Between Data for Progress and the new UMass/Lowell poll, it's clear that Markey is the favorite. Kennedy would need the race to seriously change for him to have a clear shot.

Wouldn't want to bet on primaries, but yeah, Kennedy seems to be a clear underdog ATM. Question is, where does he go from here if he loses? I know people in this thread have said his political career would be over, but I honestly find it hard for a Kennedy to not have a political career in the state if they didn't want to.

Maybe he runs for Governor? Even though Auchincloss would be a horris incumbent, I doubt he'll primary him, since their families are close.

[MillennialModerate]

I said this race is over back in July and was mocked.

It’s been obvious since June ....So excited to see Markey return to being to the most useless politican in MA

[Oryxslayer]

Between Data for Progress and the new UMass/Lowell poll, it's clear that Markey is the favorite. Kennedy would need the race to seriously change for him to have a clear shot.

Wouldn't want to bet on primaries, but yeah, Kennedy seems to be a clear underdog ATM. Question is, where does he go from here if he loses? I know people in this thread have said his political career would be over, but I honestly find it hard for a Kennedy to not have a political career in the state if they didn't want to.

Depending on how the MA dem legislature changes their senatorial law, he could be at the top of the list for replacing Warren. Obviously he will have lost some of his shine after this campaign, but if she immediatly gets nominated to some Biden job like CPB then Kennedy has an opening. It might even be likely if MA adopts something resembling the AZ senate law and requires Baker to pick a Democrat from a list of names. MA dems wouldn't want a incumbent congressmen to be on the list, since that just forces another special election.

That or ambassador to Ireland in a Biden Admin. If Biden loses than it's a lobbying job.

[MillennialModerate]

The comments in this thread about him having a political career after this are laughable. You have probably the most baked in political advantage in the country: being a Kennedy in Massachusetts and you lose to quite literally the most useless politican in the state. The Bernie Bro’s latest fetish: Ed Markey. I’m sorry but you’re toast. Absolutely toast.

[VAR]

Nadler and Maloney endorse Markey.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Before Covid 19 hit Kennedy was leading this race, and so was Bullock, there were on Facebook touting how much money they have raised, now they are losing. Covid 19 did impact both races, incumbents like Daines and Markey are resistant to the change election.

Now, Bullock, which we havent seen any recent polls is embroiled in a scandal

[brucejoel99]

The comments in this thread about him having a political career after this are laughable. You have probably the most baked in political advantage in the country: being a Kennedy in Massachusetts and you lose to quite literally the most useless politican in the state. The Bernie Bro’s latest fetish: Ed Markey. I’m sorry but you’re toast. Absolutely toast.

Hear me out here, but maybe - just maybe - people don't (irrationally!) hate Ed Markey as much as you.

Just a thought, Joe

[new_patomic]

Assuming Kennedy loses, it obviously does hurt his political prospects

But he's only 39.

He could run for Governor in 2022.

Or even be offered a cabinet/other position in a Biden administration.

Ignoring the very obvious 'failing up' joke, he doesn't seem like someone who'd just be left to fade.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

Before Covid 19 hit Kennedy was leading this race, and so was Bullock, there were on Facebook touting how much money they have raised, now they are losing. Covid 19 did impact both races, incumbents like Daines and Markey are resistant to the change election.

Now, Bullock, which we havent seen any recent polls is embroiled in a scandal

W.r.t. the primary, this is actually a correct take. Markey might have ended up winning anyway, but his team had a better digital operation and I strongly suspect COVID-19 did boost incumbents, especially those fighting campaigns with strong ground operations.

[ON Progressive]

Before Covid 19 hit Kennedy was leading this race, and so was Bullock, there were on Facebook touting how much money they have raised, now they are losing. Covid 19 did impact both races, incumbents like Daines and Markey are resistant to the change election.

Now, Bullock, which we havent seen any recent polls is embroiled in a scandal

W.r.t. the primary, this is actually a correct take. Markey might have ended up winning anyway, but his team had a better digital operation and I strongly suspect COVID-19 did boost incumbents, especially those fighting campaigns with strong ground operations.

Not sure about that given all the House primaries with incumbents losing (and there's two more that one could consider in trouble in MA!)

I do agree it did make Markey's strong digital operation matter more than it might have otherwise though.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

Before Covid 19 hit Kennedy was leading this race, and so was Bullock, there were on Facebook touting how much money they have raised, now they are losing. Covid 19 did impact both races, incumbents like Daines and Markey are resistant to the change election.

Now, Bullock, which we havent seen any recent polls is embroiled in a scandal

W.r.t. the primary, this is actually a correct take. Markey might have ended up winning anyway, but his team had a better digital operation and I strongly suspect COVID-19 did boost incumbents, especially those fighting campaigns with strong ground operations.

Not sure about that given all the House primaries with incumbents losing (and there's two more that one could consider in trouble in MA!)

I was expecting anti-incumbent sentiment beforehand anyway as the parties drifted ideologically further apart and their representatives failed to move with them. I think COVID-19 hasn't mitigated all of this, but I'll bet it has helped them.