Ilhan Omar compares the boycott of Israel to boycott of Nazis and USSR

[OSR stands with Israel]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/omar-introduces-resolution-defending-boycotts-of-israel-likens-it-to-boycott-of-nazi-germany-soviet-union

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ilhan-omar-to-introduce-resolution-supporting-israel-boycotts


I want AOC and all the other Justice Democrats to be asked if they agree with her comments which they mostly likely will. Every SINGLE Justice Democrat should be primaried and thrown out of office. The TYT caucus is a disgrace in everyway. The Democrats must not turn into Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

[Vittorio]

If you were a thoroughgoing nationalist, you'd probably be inclined to agree with her.

Israel is an ethnostate which strictly enforces an ethnic hierarchy through State intervention in its society. In this it is distinguishable from Germany between the wars only in degree.

[Beet]

The unfortunate reality is that (always invalid) Nazi Germany comparisons are extremely common in American politics. Donald Rumsfeld invoked it to justify war with Iraq, and it is used all the time by politicians and commentators on all sides of the political spectrum. I wish it would end. But since this is Omar, it'll be treated as a bigger scandal than if someone else said it about some other country.

[Joe Republic]

Aaaaaand just when she had a tide of public sympathy in her favor, she pulls this.  From a strategic standpoint, she may be a worse politician than Trump.

It doesn’t matter how valid her position is on Israel; she seems to have an uncanny inability to get her points across (even taking into account the bad faith spin put on it by the Fox News, Fuzzy Bear and beep jermey corbyn boop crowd).

[Grassroots]

She isn't all wrong on this. We give way too much to Israel, and it feels more and more like the government is just sucking up to them when it comes to middle eastern policy. Not to mention massive human rights violations and obvious signs of autocracy. Her standing up to the establishment on this issue is probably the only thing I admire about her, but comparing it to Nazi Germany and the USSR is a mistake.

[Vittorio]

Aaaaaand just when she had a tide of public sympathy in her favor, she pulls this.  From a strategic standpoint, she may be a worse politician than Trump.

Assuming she has any interest in evangelizing an anti-Zionist perspective, this is almost the ideal time to do it, while she's riding a crest of sympathy. I guarantee you that this will strengthen the BDS movement, though in relative rather than absolute terms.

[Badger]

Ugh, thats awful. She is truly one of the worst congressmembers out there, and surely the worst Democrat.

It doesnt excuse mass Trumpist racism and nativism against her one iota, nor Likud's reprehensible settlement policy.  But I truly hope she'll be primaried next year.

[OSR stands with Israel]

The unfortunate reality is that (always invalid) Nazi Germany comparisons are extremely common in American politics. Donald Rumsfeld invoked it to justify war with Iraq, and it is used all the time by politicians and commentators on all sides of the political spectrum. I wish it would end. But since this is Omar, it'll be treated as a bigger scandal than if someone else said it about some other country.

Even comparing Israel to Suddam Hussain Iraq is terrible because Hussain's Iraq was obviously much much worse .

Also : http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/baath.html



And lastly wasn’t the Ba’ath party full name the Arab National Socialist Party , so the comparison did make more sense. The main difference was was Iraq didn’t have the ability in 2003 to be a threat to peace as the Germans did 

[Joe Republic]

And lastly wasn’t the Ba’ath party full name the Arab National Socialist Party , so the comparison did make more sense.

Haha what

[TDAS04]

Ugh.  Not helpful.

[OSR stands with Israel]

And lastly wasn’t the Ba’ath party full name the Arab National Socialist Party , so the comparison did make more sense.

Haha what

Just checked full name was the : Arab Socialist Baʿth Party,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba%27ath_Party

Ba'ath meaning "renaissance" or "resurrection"), which is an ideology mixing Arab nationalist, pan-Arabism, Arab socialist, and anti-imperialist

[PSOL]

While this can be seen as hyperbolic in some regards, the lack of “soft” international boycotts does mean that this is the most apt comparison. Like it or not, but some allegories go together from lack of alternatives.

[PSOL]

And lastly wasn’t the Ba’ath party full name the Arab National Socialist Party , so the comparison did make more sense.

Haha what

Just checked full name was the : Arab Socialist Baʿth Party,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba%27ath_Party

Ba'ath meaning "renaissance" or "resurrection"), which is an ideology mixing Arab nationalist, pan-Arabism, Arab socialist, and anti-imperialist

I’ll just interject that while many third world “liberationist” ideologies did have socialistic leanings, saying that just because they have “socialist” in the name is a misnomer, like “democratic” or “patriot”. At the end of Jordan Gibran’s life, the Ba’athist Part(ies) shifted rightward into nationalistic authoritarians. I mean, when the party turns sectarian against other Arabs and other liberationist groups as we’ve seen in Iraq and Syria, they ceased being classically Ba’athist.

Also, a ton of ideologies being founded at this time took the name of socialism just to be edgy against the supposed rule of “Western Capitalism”.

[Badger]

The unfortunate reality is that (always invalid) Nazi Germany comparisons are extremely common in American politics. Donald Rumsfeld invoked it to justify war with Iraq, and it is used all the time by politicians and commentators on all sides of the political spectrum. I wish it would end. But since this is Omar, it'll be treated as a bigger scandal than if someone else said it about some other country.

Even comparing Israel to Suddam Hussain Iraq is terrible because Hussain's Iraq was obviously much much worse .

Also : http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/baath.html



And lastly wasn’t the Ba’ath party full name the Arab National Socialist Party , so the comparison did make more sense. The main difference was was Iraq didn’t have the ability in 2003 to be a threat to peace as the Germans did 

Your first point is dead on correct. Sadly, your second one is flat out incorrect. Hussein was an absolute murderous dictator bastard who deserved his grisly end. As did his sons. However, the Socialist part of the Arab National Socialist Party has about as much to do with socialism as the Nazis official party name having the word socialist in it.

[Badger]

While this can be seen as hyperbolic in some regards, the lack of “soft” international boycotts does mean that this is the most apt comparison. Like it or not, but some allegories go together from lack of alternatives.

Can we go off calling this "not helpful" or just " hyperbolic". Comparing a boycott of Israel to that of stalinist Russia or Nazi Germany is just plain f#$ked up, I'm not even opposed to boycotting Goods produced at Israeli run businesses in the West Bank or Gaza, and readily admit that it may be difficult to enforce such a boycott when Israeli government will readily let tractor trailers of such Goods cross into Israel proper and be Simply Stamped made in Israel, but no. Just no.

[OSR stands with Israel]

The unfortunate reality is that (always invalid) Nazi Germany comparisons are extremely common in American politics. Donald Rumsfeld invoked it to justify war with Iraq, and it is used all the time by politicians and commentators on all sides of the political spectrum. I wish it would end. But since this is Omar, it'll be treated as a bigger scandal than if someone else said it about some other country.

Even comparing Israel to Suddam Hussain Iraq is terrible because Hussain's Iraq was obviously much much worse .

Also : http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/baath.html



And lastly wasn’t the Ba’ath party full name the Arab National Socialist Party , so the comparison did make more sense. The main difference was was Iraq didn’t have the ability in 2003 to be a threat to peace as the Germans did 

Your first point is dead on correct. Sadly, your second one is flat out incorrect. Hussein was an absolute murderous dictator bastard who deserved his grisly end. As did his sons. However, the Socialist part of the Arab National Socialist Party has about as much to do with socialism as the Nazis official party name having the word socialist in it.

I’m not saying it has anything to do with socialism I’m just comparing how similar the name of the Ba’ath party was to the Nazis

[Person Man]

She’s like our version of Trump. Has some good ideas but loves to stump on 30% issues and make statements only 20% of votes agree with.

[Indy Texas]

I am legitimately confused by the BDS people, the anti-BDS people, the anti-anti-BDS people, and whatever other iterations are out there.

It is the case that everyone, as economic actors in the marketplace, ought to have the right to decline to purchase a good or service for any reason.

But if your goal is to boycott an entire country, how does that happen in a global economy with multinational supply chains and very fungible goods and services?

What does it even mean to boycott Israel? Are you going to throw out your cell phone and your computer? Because I guarantee you there is some chip or component in there that was licensed by an Israeli company. Are you going to refuse to see movies with Gal Gadot or other Israeli actors in them? Are you going to refuse to use medication made by Teva Pharmaceuticals, an Israeli company?

The only really feasible way I could see of boycotting Israel would be declining to travel to Israel. But American travel to Israel is basically dominated by Christian Zionists and American Jews. The kind of people who are traveling to Israel to begin with are not the same people who are likely to be interested in BDS anyway.

And for the above reasons, there is really no reason for anti-BDS people to be concerned. There isn't any way for boycott behavior to impact Israel in any meaningful way.

[Kizzuwanda]

She is mostly right, but the boycott of Israel is legitimate whereas boycotting the USSR was not.

[Badger]

She is mostly right, but the boycott of Israel is legitimate whereas boycotting the USSR was not.

"Edgy"

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Waiting for an actual news source, instead of tabloids known for pushing right-wing propaganda.

[Some of My Best Friends Are Gay]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/omar-introduces-resolution-defending-boycotts-of-israel-likens-it-to-boycott-of-nazi-germany-soviet-union

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ilhan-omar-to-introduce-resolution-supporting-israel-boycotts


I want AOC and all the other Justice Democrats to be asked if they agree with her comments which they mostly likely will. Every SINGLE Justice Democrat should be primaried and thrown out of office. The TYT caucus is a disgrace in everyway. The Democrats must not turn into Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

Boo hoo. if only moderate heroes like you got their way, all would be right in the world and we'd all gather in DC to sing koombiah together.

[Badger]

The unfortunate reality is that (always invalid) Nazi Germany comparisons are extremely common in American politics. Donald Rumsfeld invoked it to justify war with Iraq, and it is used all the time by politicians and commentators on all sides of the political spectrum. I wish it would end. But since this is Omar, it'll be treated as a bigger scandal than if someone else said it about some other country.

Even comparing Israel to Suddam Hussain Iraq is terrible because Hussain's Iraq was obviously much much worse .

Also : http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/baath.html



And lastly wasn’t the Ba’ath party full name the Arab National Socialist Party , so the comparison did make more sense. The main difference was was Iraq didn’t have the ability in 2003 to be a threat to peace as the Germans did 

Your first point is dead on correct. Sadly, your second one is flat out incorrect. Hussein was an absolute murderous dictator bastard who deserved his grisly end. As did his sons. However, the Socialist part of the Arab National Socialist Party has about as much to do with socialism as the Nazis official party name having the word socialist in it.

I’m not saying it has anything to do with socialism I’m just comparing how similar the name of the Ba’ath party was to the Nazis

Not sure of your point here....?

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

She is mostly right, but the boycott of Israel is legitimate whereas boycotting the USSR was not.

Here's a living breathing argument as to why Zionism is Necessary.

[Vittorio]

She is mostly right, but the boycott of Israel is legitimate whereas boycotting the USSR was not.

Here's a living breathing argument as to why Zionism is Necessary.

Is Rohingya Nationalism Necessary?