Ilhan Omar compares the boycott of Israel to boycott of Nazis and USSR

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As somebody who's very much opposed to the Israeli policies, I can't defend this statement. Israel is not comparable with the Third Reich or the USSR.

[T'Chenka]

She isn't all wrong on this. We give way too much to Israel, and it feels more and more like the government is just sucking up to them when it comes to middle eastern policy. Not to mention massive human rights violations and obvious signs of autocracy. Her standing up to the establishment on this issue is probably the only thing I admire about her, but comparing it to Nazi Germany and the USSR is a mistake.

Jesus Christ, I agree with Grassr00ts.

Not a surprise, is it? Horseshoe theory...

The observations in that post are less about "left right" politics and more about paying attention to what is actually factually happening over there. The American media doesn't necessarily lie constantly, but there is lots of twisting, downplaying and over-emphasizing.

[brucejoel99]

As somebody who's very much opposed to the Israeli policies, I can't defend this statement. Israel is not comparable with the Third Reich or the USSR.

There was no statement. Read the posts (in particular, mine concerning the resolution which supposedly (hint: it doesn't) "compares the boycott of Israel to boycott of Nazis and USSR") above yours.

[Ilhan Apologist]

Please, someone, change the headline.

[DavidB.]

Please, someone, change the headline.

No, it's literally correct. The Nazi comparison is in the resolution she put forward.

[Ilhan Apologist]

Please, someone, change the headline.

No, it's literally correct. The Nazi comparison is in the resolution she put forward.

She does not "compare them". She just uses Germany as one of several examples of previous boycotts.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Please, someone, change the headline.

No, it's literally correct. The Nazi comparison is in the resolution she put forward.

She does not "compare them". She just uses Germany as one of several examples of previous boycotts.

It's a de facto comparision. 

The title does not need to change.  That Ilhan Omar is an unrepentant anti-Semite needs to be kept before the American Public until she is no longer in public office.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Please, someone, change the headline.

No, it's literally correct. The Nazi comparison is in the resolution she put forward.

She does not "compare them". She just uses Germany as one of several examples of previous boycotts.

Then she did indeed make the comparison

[Vittorio]

The Young-Hegelian ideologists, in spite of their allegedly “world-shattering" statements, are the staunchest conservatives. The most recent of them have found the correct expression for their activity when they declare they are only fighting against “phrases.” They forget, however, that to these phrases they themselves are only opposing other phrases, and that they are in no way combating the real existing world when they are merely combating the phrases of this world....

[Ilhan Apologist]

Please, someone, change the headline.

No, it's literally correct. The Nazi comparison is in the resolution she put forward.

She does not "compare them". She just uses Germany as one of several examples of previous boycotts.

Then she did indeed make the comparison

Your headline makes it sound like she said that Israel was comparable to the Holocaust.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Please, someone, change the headline.

No, it's literally correct. The Nazi comparison is in the resolution she put forward.

She does not "compare them". She just uses Germany as one of several examples of previous boycotts.

Then she did indeed make the comparison

That comparison exists only in your head.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

She introduced a resolution in support of the BDS movement. She used the US boycott against Nazi Germany as an example of another justified boycott. That's a comparison.

Stop gaslighting us. We're not stupid. The cruelty is the point. If Jews are the new Nazis, then antisemitism is anti-fascism.

[OSR stands with Israel]

She introduced a resolution in support of the BDS movement. She used the US boycott against Nazi Germany as an example of another justified boycott. That's a comparison.

Stop gaslighting us. We're not stupid. The cruelty is the point. If Jews are the new Nazis, then antisemitism is anti-fascism.

The fact is the far left doesnt care because their only goal it seems at this point is  shoving socialism down our throats

[Fuzzy Bear]

She introduced a resolution in support of the BDS movement. She used the US boycott against Nazi Germany as an example of another justified boycott. That's a comparison.

Stop gaslighting us. We're not stupid. The cruelty is the point. If Jews are the new Nazis, then antisemitism is anti-fascism.

The fact is the far left doesnt care because their only goal it seems at this point is  shoving socialism down our throats

They haven't stopped gaslighting me about a whole slew of issues.

[Ilhan Apologist]

She introduced a resolution in support of the BDS movement. She used the US boycott against Nazi Germany as an example of another justified boycott. That's a comparison.

Stop gaslighting us. We're not stupid. The cruelty is the point. If Jews are the new Nazis, then antisemitism is anti-fascism.

I'm not gaslighting you. You're not going to be convinced. I just don't want you to mislead people like Badger.

[Fuzzy Bear]

She introduced a resolution in support of the BDS movement. She used the US boycott against Nazi Germany as an example of another justified boycott. That's a comparison.

Stop gaslighting us. We're not stupid. The cruelty is the point. If Jews are the new Nazis, then antisemitism is anti-fascism.

I'm not gaslighting you. You're not going to be convinced. I just don't want you to mislead people like Badger.

Don't worry about Badger; he can mislead himself.

Is that a malapropism?

[Ilhan Apologist]

Is that a malapropism?

Is what a malapropism?

[brucejoel99]

Okay, spent an hour digging around for where it was said. Here it is:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/496/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22boycott%22%5D%7D&r=3&s=1

Okay, so all of the framing (news stories, etc.; hell, even the title of this very thread) around this resolution appears to be WAY off.

First, the resolution opens with examples of boycotts used for domestic reasons before then highlighting examples of boycotts carried out to try & impact foreign policy.

More importantly, though, this resolution is pretty explicitly not endorsing a boycott or advocating for one (the full text is short & the link is directly above, so you can read the whole resolution to confirm). The resolved section: affirms that people have the right to boycott; says laws regulating boycotts are counter to the Constitution & established precedent; & calls on people to oppose anti-boycott laws.

Yes, Texas passed a law that punishes people for boycotting Israel so that's (understandably) where most people go with this, but Israel, BDS, & Palestine aren't mentioned or referenced in the text. In fact, the text is explicitly broader because this isn't the only ban. There are states also looking at ways of banning protests on campus. President Trump famously wants people fired for protesting the national anthem. You think the next step isn't laws? They explicitly mention flag burning in their examples (also cake baking).

Again, read the whole resolution; it's super short. Stop taking partisan political pundits screaming about it at their word, because saying Omar is comparing Israel to Nazi Germany in this resolution simply doesn't stand up to a reading of the text, as the text *DOES NOT COMPARE* anything. That's not even the purpose of the resolution, for crying out loud.

I'm just gonna leave this here for anybody who still somehow believes that the headline is literally correct or that it's a de facto comparison because Ilhan Omar is an unrepentant anti-Semite or that the resolution supports BDS or that we're gaslighting you or that she's saying the Jews are the new Nazis.

Either you blue avatars evidently don't know how to read, or you do & you just don't care.

[Ilhan Apologist]

Okay, spent an hour digging around for where it was said. Here it is:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/496/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22boycott%22%5D%7D&r=3&s=1

Okay, so all of the framing (news stories, etc.; hell, even the title of this very thread) around this resolution appears to be WAY off.

First, the resolution opens with examples of boycotts used for domestic reasons before then highlighting examples of boycotts carried out to try & impact foreign policy.

More importantly, though, this resolution is pretty explicitly not endorsing a boycott or advocating for one (the full text is short & the link is directly above, so you can read the whole resolution to confirm). The resolved section: affirms that people have the right to boycott; says laws regulating boycotts are counter to the Constitution & established precedent; & calls on people to oppose anti-boycott laws.

Yes, Texas passed a law that punishes people for boycotting Israel so that's (understandably) where most people go with this, but Israel, BDS, & Palestine aren't mentioned or referenced in the text. In fact, the text is explicitly broader because this isn't the only ban. There are states also looking at ways of banning protests on campus. President Trump famously wants people fired for protesting the national anthem. You think the next step isn't laws? They explicitly mention flag burning in their examples (also cake baking).

Again, read the whole resolution; it's super short. Stop taking partisan political pundits screaming about it at their word, because saying Omar is comparing Israel to Nazi Germany in this resolution simply doesn't stand up to a reading of the text, as the text *DOES NOT COMPARE* anything. That's not even the purpose of the resolution, for crying out loud.

I'm just gonna leave this here for anybody who still believes that the headline is literally correct or that it's a de facto comparison because Ilhan Omar is an unrepentant anti-Semite or that the resolution supports BDS or that we're gaslighting you or that she's saying the Jews are the new Nazis.

Either you blue avatars evidently don't know how to read, or you do & you just don't care.

To them, giving Palestinians human rights is anti-semitic.

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John Lewis is a cosponsor of this resolution.  He wouldn't have signed on to this if he thought it was anti-Semitic.     He's also a cosponsor of H.Res. 246, that expresses opposition to BDS, but avoids any action to prohibit it.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

John Lewis is a cosponsor of this resolution.  He wouldn't have signed on to this if he thought it was anti-Semitic.     He's also a cosponsor of H.Res. 246, that expresses opposition to BDS, but avoids any action to prohibit it.

I have enormous respect for the life John Lewis has led, but he's capable of being wrong. And he's as much of an authority on antisemitism as I am on southern-era racism.

[Vittorio]

Jewish identitarians are the worst.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Jewish identitarians are the worst.

Thanks for the input, Soviet knock-off Beep Boop.

[Vittorio]

Jewish identitarians are the worst.

Thanks for the input, Soviet knock-off Beep Boop.

Leftcom, thanks.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

As somebody who's very much opposed to the Israeli policies, I can't defend this statement. Israel is not comparable with the Third Reich or the USSR.

I agree. (It's worse.)

How much does it keep you up at night that the Jews have exactly as much power to destroy you now as you do to destroy them? I bet it stings.