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« on: November 06, 2019, 11:59:49 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2020, 07:36:31 PM »

Let's get real-people voted for West_Midlander because he was the Labor/Peace candidate and MB and I asked them to. So yeah, it is a violation of the trust voters placed in him. Whether it is a 'stain on democracy' is semantics, you can quibble with language but I do think it is distasteful and wrong for office-holders to switch parties. I think he should now follow the Vern precedent and resign, and hopefully the South has special gubernatorial elections so the voters can decide for themselves whether they want a Federalist or Labor Governor.
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2020, 02:15:39 AM »

That's an awfully naive attitude to have Yankee, the fact of the matter is both Vern and West_Midlander got the votes they got because of which party they were in. A majority of the South wanted a Labor Governor and their will has been overturned-it doesn't matter how close the election was that is the essence of it. Indeed, Vern's special election proves that only a few people voted for against him based on his own judgement and personality -most voted for or against his party 
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2020, 02:55:27 PM »

Despite my disapproval of some of his actions as Governor, this was never a deal breaker for me. This idea of an authoritarian Labor Party is a figment of his imagination. And a Bernie supporter is always going to be a better fit for Labor than the Federalists (honestly we are probably too tilted to the Bernie wing compared to other Dem primary groups, though this is a minor issue). Especially the Federalist Party of 2020 is a terrible party for such a person. WM will find this out in due course. In any case, I am not responsible nor is the rest of the party leadership for the Governor's poor judgement.
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2020, 10:25:39 PM »

I am leaving the party out of reasons of differing viewpoints, not out of personal reasons.

So it's okay for you but not Westy?
Difference is I was not scheming to hoist myself into office then defect from the party. 
Lol, he would've won as a Fed. The race was literally won by a one vote margin.

Well based on PSOL's argument WM would have expected Labor to be more dominant and seen MB's margin of like 14 votes and Leinad won by around 10, and then think the easiest way to gain power would be winning as a Labor candidate. However I think PSOL's theory here is a bit far-fetched and WM wasn't a Machiavellian schemer who always planned to backstab Labor but was naive and fooled by some whoppers LT fed him in PMs.
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2020, 03:34:47 AM »

While I personally thought it wasn't a good idea to run for Fremont FM, i still endorse you. If we hold Truman to low 50's, the election will be a success.

Pericles, February 2018 "If I hold fhtagn to low 50s, the election will be a success and PUP will survive." Didn't work out that way, because the only actual win is a win-not a moral victory.
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2020, 06:16:44 AM »
« Edited: September 06, 2020, 06:21:07 AM by President Pericles »

I love parliamentary systems. The problem is that Atlasia is not real life, 90% of legislators have no initiative, and government by committee inevitably leads to nothing getting done. As a practical matter Frémont needs a strong executive to keep the gears turning or parliament would quickly become impotent and ineffective. Hence the Philly Plan has been an unmitigated disaster that only worked when Peanut ran the government as a de facto first minister; one need only observe the string of failed and ineffective chancellors to understand why selecting the head of government by and from the legislature is a terrible idea.
Well maybe if Labor didn’t PM cookiedamage to vote against Ninja we would have a effective Chancellor.

Given Ninja has hardly ever served a full term in office we quite reasonably do not trust his abilities. Plus of course Labor won the Lincoln ekections and so the people expect that when they vote for a Labor government they will get one.
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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2020, 02:37:39 PM »

I love parliamentary systems. The problem is that Atlasia is not real life, 90% of legislators have no initiative, and government by committee inevitably leads to nothing getting done. As a practical matter Frémont needs a strong executive to keep the gears turning or parliament would quickly become impotent and ineffective. Hence the Philly Plan has been an unmitigated disaster that only worked when Peanut ran the government as a de facto first minister; one need only observe the string of failed and ineffective chancellors to understand why selecting the head of government by and from the legislature is a terrible idea.
Well maybe if Labor didn’t PM cookiedamage to vote against Ninja we would have a effective Chancellor.

Given Ninja has hardly ever served a full term in office we quite reasonably do not trust his abilities. Plus of course Labor won the Lincoln ekections and so the people expect that when they vote for a Labor government they will get one.
Please do first preference Ninja0428/1184AZ for President.
Anyway, 100% Endorsed, Ninja will bring fresh leadership and change to Atlasia!
No regrets for voting for you. Best of luck with your future in Atlasia.
Why did you support Ninja in June 2018 then.
He was the Speaker of the House and the Lincoln Assembly and a Deputy President Pro Tempore, so he the abilities to be Chancellor


He served as Speaker for less than a month.
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2020, 02:50:39 PM »

I love parliamentary systems. The problem is that Atlasia is not real life, 90% of legislators have no initiative, and government by committee inevitably leads to nothing getting done. As a practical matter Frémont needs a strong executive to keep the gears turning or parliament would quickly become impotent and ineffective. Hence the Philly Plan has been an unmitigated disaster that only worked when Peanut ran the government as a de facto first minister; one need only observe the string of failed and ineffective chancellors to understand why selecting the head of government by and from the legislature is a terrible idea.
Well maybe if Labor didn’t PM cookiedamage to vote against Ninja we would have a effective Chancellor.

Given Ninja has hardly ever served a full term in office we quite reasonably do not trust his abilities. Plus of course Labor won the Lincoln ekections and so the people expect that when they vote for a Labor government they will get one.
Please do first preference Ninja0428/1184AZ for President.
Anyway, 100% Endorsed, Ninja will bring fresh leadership and change to Atlasia!
No regrets for voting for you. Best of luck with your future in Atlasia.
Why did you support Ninja in June 2018 then.
He was the Speaker of the House and the Lincoln Assembly and a Deputy President Pro Tempore, so he the abilities to be Chancellor


He served as Speaker for less than a month.
The Chancellor is someone who spent 1 month in the chamber before becoming Chancellor so your point doesn't stand.

You could have avoided this by having the Labor machine abandon cookiedamage (someone who didn't even vote in the election) and supported Wulfric, who ran 3 times who would have made a better Chancellor then N1240.



You could have made it a lot easier for us if rather than causing chaos, you accepted that the people of Lincoln voted for a Labor government and expected that to be delivered.
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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2020, 03:12:20 PM »

Your response is inappropriate Ninja. There is a clear pattern of Ninja failing in office. I cannot know his real life issues, but unfortunately it does mean his record in the game is very poor, and so he is not entitled to promotions.
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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2020, 03:45:54 PM »

Your response is inappropriate Ninja. There is a clear pattern of Ninja failing in office. I cannot know his real life issues, but unfortunately it does mean his record in the game is very poor, and so he is not entitled to promotions.
Why did you support him for President then in June 2018?

Also, Labor abandoned Wulfric over someone who didn't post in the Fantasy boards for a month before swearing in.

Are you being a troll?
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