Hotter, Badder, and Unpopularer Takes

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Insisting on a purist right-liberal line on material issues necessitates some degree of social conservatism in order to maintain the social controls necessary to prevent the complete collapse of society. That's why libertarians who are genuinely interested in maximizing human freedom tend to support some limits on The Market's power over natural communities, even if they prefer it not be the state imposing those limits.

[DINGO Joe]

We should nationalize the boy scouts and make it boys only once again. Not to mention getting it up from 2 million to the 6 million members it once had.

socialist

[Grassroots]

We should nationalize the boy scouts and make it boys only once again. Not to mention getting it up from 2 million to the 6 million members it once had.

socialist

I'm more left wing on economic issues than the typical conservative, this shouldn't be a shocker.

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

Reposting this here:

"Worthless degrees" do not exist.  If sociology is your passion, then the time and work you put into earning that degree is not "worthless".  Before I had to leave college to take care of my sick mother, I was studying theology with the intention of becoming a priest or minister.  According to neoliberal thought, that degree is "worthless" because it doesn't generate more wealth for rich capitalists the way that a STEM degree does.  Under neoliberal thought, serving the Lord is "worthless".

Degrees should not be assessed by how much money a person generates for the capitalist-industrial complex.  It is an insult to students who actually want to make a difference in this world and shape their destinies the way they want to, not the way rich capitalists want them to.

[RINO Tom]

Reposting this here:

"Worthless degrees" do not exist.  If sociology is your passion, then the time and work you put into earning that degree is not "worthless".  Before I had to leave college to take care of my sick mother, I was studying theology with the intention of becoming a priest or minister.  According to neoliberal thought, that degree is "worthless" because it doesn't generate more wealth for rich capitalists the way that a STEM degree does.  Under neoliberal thought, serving the Lord is "worthless".

Degrees should not be assessed by how much money a person generates for the capitalist-industrial complex.  It is an insult to students who actually want to make a difference in this world and shape their destinies the way they want to, not the way rich capitalists want them to.

I completely agree with the first sentence, though I think it's equally annoying and absurd for people who enter fields that practically necessitate a graduate or doctorate degree to earn a decent living (see: education) to act like they are smarter or more worldly than people who just have a bachelor's degree in a more traditional hard science field.

[Xing]

People don't automatically move politically to the right as they get older. If anything, I've moved to the left as I've gotten older, as I've come to be very skeptical of calls for "compromise" and "meeting in the middle", especially since they too often come from people whose twisted notion of "compromise" is the other side bending to their will. I've become more critical of the Democratic Party, and come to see things such a universal healthcare as a moral obligation.

[RINO Tom]

People don't automatically move politically to the right as they get older. If anything, I've moved to the left as I've gotten older, as I've come to be very skeptical of calls for "compromise" and "meeting in the middle", especially since they too often come from people whose twisted notion of "compromise" is the other side bending to their will. I've become more critical of the Democratic Party, and come to see things such a universal healthcare as a moral obligation.

I think this stereotype is almost entirely based off the Boomers, as popular culture imagines them as starting off as Hippies and morphing into our conservative, money-obsessed parents, haha.  From my anecdotal experience, about 70% of a given age group sticks with their original political beliefs as they age, possibly even intensifying them (as you described) due to cynicism, and I think that group is broadly more left-leaning than right-leaning.  However, I would say that there is a good 10% of the population that was never really overly political and might have defaulted to the Democratic Party as "more fair" or "more moral" in their younger years and shifted right as they got older, gained a higher (but not super high) income and had children.  They are a small percent of the population, but I would say that it is much more common to go from center to right "as you age" than it is to go from "center to left "as you age."  Totally anecdotal.  Then again, we are in a very odd era now, so who honestly knows anything...

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

People don't automatically move politically to the right as they get older. If anything, I've moved to the left as I've gotten older, as I've come to be very skeptical of calls for "compromise" and "meeting in the middle", especially since they too often come from people whose twisted notion of "compromise" is the other side bending to their will. I've become more critical of the Democratic Party, and come to see things such a universal healthcare as a moral obligation.

It's all relative. 10-15 years ago I was considered about as far left socially and culturally as people were, but today some people think I'm a reactionary right-winger because I don't state my pronouns or believe anyone should try to "overcome" a "genital preference". And even centrists support gay marriage and marijuana legalization now so that's not a big deal.

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

Reposting this here:

"Worthless degrees" do not exist.  If sociology is your passion, then the time and work you put into earning that degree is not "worthless".  Before I had to leave college to take care of my sick mother, I was studying theology with the intention of becoming a priest or minister.  According to neoliberal thought, that degree is "worthless" because it doesn't generate more wealth for rich capitalists the way that a STEM degree does.  Under neoliberal thought, serving the Lord is "worthless".

Degrees should not be assessed by how much money a person generates for the capitalist-industrial complex.  It is an insult to students who actually want to make a difference in this world and shape their destinies the way they want to, not the way rich capitalists want them to.

I completely agree with the first sentence, though I think it's equally annoying and absurd for people who enter fields that practically necessitate a graduate or doctorate degree to earn a decent living (see: education) to act like they are smarter or more worldly than people who just have a bachelor's degree in a more traditional hard science field.

From my perspective, it's usually the STEM people who have that attitude. (Just look at Vosem. )  That's why I get extremely turned off by the "learn to code" folks and government initiatives to promote and aid STEM students but not those of us who want to work in the humanities.

The church I wanted to be ordained in requires a Master's degree, and most clergypeople don't get paid very much.  My best shot at this point would probably be to become a religion professor, even though I'm no fan of the 'higher education industrial complex' myself.

[John Dule]

Bit of a random issue but I’ve noticed in documentaries about the French Revolution that there is an uncomfortable amount of leftists academics that completely support the reign of terror and subscribe to the Leninist idea that no revolution can be made without mass violence and state terror. In particular there is a documentary on Robespierre were Slavoj Zizek comes off like a blood thirsty madman

I'm watching this right now and remembered this comment. It's really creepy how little leftist revolutionary politics has changed since the 1790s-- the hypocrisy, the self-righteousness, the upper-class pretentiousness as they pretend to "speak for the people," the vilification of all those who disagree as "counter-revolutionaries." The rhetoric they use in the Terror is eerily similar to the views espoused by Berkeley Marxists.

Zizek is a troll though; I wouldn't pay his opinions any mind.

[We Live in Black and White]

The 2020 presidential election is over. Best we can do now is show up and vote for downballot races in the hopes that we're not absolutely annihilated.

[diptheriadan]

Bit of a random issue but I’ve noticed in documentaries about the French Revolution that there is an uncomfortable amount of leftists academics that completely support the reign of terror and subscribe to the Leninist idea that no revolution can be made without mass violence and state terror. In particular there is a documentary on Robespierre were Slavoj Zizek comes off like a blood thirsty madman

I'm watching this right now and remembered this comment. It's really creepy how little leftist revolutionary politics has changed since the 1790s-- the hypocrisy, the self-righteousness, the upper-class pretentiousness as they pretend to "speak for the people," the vilification of all those who disagree as "counter-revolutionaries." The rhetoric they use in the Terror is eerily similar to the views espoused by Berkeley Marxists.

Zizek is a troll though; I wouldn't pay his opinions any mind.

link for the documentary(s)?

[John Dule]

Bit of a random issue but I’ve noticed in documentaries about the French Revolution that there is an uncomfortable amount of leftists academics that completely support the reign of terror and subscribe to the Leninist idea that no revolution can be made without mass violence and state terror. In particular there is a documentary on Robespierre were Slavoj Zizek comes off like a blood thirsty madman

I'm watching this right now and remembered this comment. It's really creepy how little leftist revolutionary politics has changed since the 1790s-- the hypocrisy, the self-righteousness, the upper-class pretentiousness as they pretend to "speak for the people," the vilification of all those who disagree as "counter-revolutionaries." The rhetoric they use in the Terror is eerily similar to the views espoused by Berkeley Marxists.

Zizek is a troll though; I wouldn't pay his opinions any mind.

link for the documentary(s)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suZdYkZ_feM&t=3802s

[Hindsight was 2020]

Bit of a random issue but I’ve noticed in documentaries about the French Revolution that there is an uncomfortable amount of leftists academics that completely support the reign of terror and subscribe to the Leninist idea that no revolution can be made without mass violence and state terror. In particular there is a documentary on Robespierre were Slavoj Zizek comes off like a blood thirsty madman

I'm watching this right now and remembered this comment. It's really creepy how little leftist revolutionary politics has changed since the 1790s-- the hypocrisy, the self-righteousness, the upper-class pretentiousness as they pretend to "speak for the people," the vilification of all those who disagree as "counter-revolutionaries." The rhetoric they use in the Terror is eerily similar to the views espoused by Berkeley Marxists.

Zizek is a troll though; I wouldn't pay his opinions any mind.

link for the documentary(s)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suZdYkZ_feM&t=3802s

Btw how hilarious is it when they get to near the end when the committee revolts on Robespierre and it cuts to Zizek, Ruth Scurr, and Hilary Mantel looking miserable while Simon Schama is laughing his ass off

[Grassroots]

The 2020 presidential election is over. Best we can do now is show up and vote for downballot races in the hopes that we're not absolutely annihilated.

You realize Biden benefits downballot races and increases dems chances of winning, right?

Ohhhh, I forgot you are a Sanders supporter and you deny reality. Got it.

[Hindsight was 2020]

The 2020 presidential election is over. Best we can do now is show up and vote for downballot races in the hopes that we're not absolutely annihilated.

You realize Biden benefits downballot races and increases dems chances of winning, right?

Ohhhh, I forgot you are a Sanders supporter and you deny reality. Got it.

Oh what I would give for a candidate who fires up the base and grassroot fundraise like Bernie does but can gel as well with the down ballot candidates as Biden does

[Bidenworth2020]

The 2020 presidential election is over. Best we can do now is show up and vote for downballot races in the hopes that we're not absolutely annihilated.

You realize Biden benefits downballot races and increases dems chances of winning, right?

Ohhhh, I forgot you are a Sanders supporter and you deny reality. Got it.

Oh what I would give for a candidate who fires up the base and grassroot fundraise like Bernie does but can gel as well with the down ballot candidates as Biden does

I am not trying to rub it in as I know you are a Bernie fan, but Super Tuesday utterly disproved the idea that Bernie fires up the base.

[Hindsight was 2020]

The 2020 presidential election is over. Best we can do now is show up and vote for downballot races in the hopes that we're not absolutely annihilated.

You realize Biden benefits downballot races and increases dems chances of winning, right?

Ohhhh, I forgot you are a Sanders supporter and you deny reality. Got it.

Oh what I would give for a candidate who fires up the base and grassroot fundraise like Bernie does but can gel as well with the down ballot candidates as Biden does

I am not trying to rub it in as I know you are a Bernie fan, but Super Tuesday utterly disproved the idea that Bernie fires up the base.

Fine “has a loyal following like Bernie” better?

[Bidenworth2020]

The 2020 presidential election is over. Best we can do now is show up and vote for downballot races in the hopes that we're not absolutely annihilated.

You realize Biden benefits downballot races and increases dems chances of winning, right?

Ohhhh, I forgot you are a Sanders supporter and you deny reality. Got it.

Oh what I would give for a candidate who fires up the base and grassroot fundraise like Bernie does but can gel as well with the down ballot candidates as Biden does

I am not trying to rub it in as I know you are a Bernie fan, but Super Tuesday utterly disproved the idea that Bernie fires up the base.

Fine “has a loyal following like Bernie” better?

That is fair, though personally I am sick of politicians who have these fanatical supporters.

[All Along The Watchtower]

Cross-posted from AAD

If Trump sets a precedent of persecuting journalists, that is good.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

In honor of International Women's Day, I'd like to say this again:

Modern feminism is horrible, evil, and has no place in modern America. While there was always an evil side of feminism (there is an evil side of every idealolgy), the evil side of feminism has completely taken over.

I bet feminist mothers abuse their sons regularly.

(Also, would "every ideology has an evil variant" qualify for this thread?)

[BP🌹]

At this point, Liberal Zionists are even more of an obstacle to Palestinian rights than their (more) right-wing counterparts.

[KaiserDave]

In honor of International Women's Day, I'd like to say this again:

Modern feminism is horrible, evil, and has no place in modern America. While there was always an evil side of feminism (there is an evil side of every idealolgy), the evil side of feminism has completely taken over.

I bet feminist mothers abuse their sons regularly.

(Also, would "every ideology has an evil variant" qualify for this thread?)

Well-bad is right for this one

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I bet feminist mothers abuse their sons regularly.

My mother is a personal hero of mine. Get bent.

[morgankingsley]

Epstein did kill himself

just wanted to see what people would say I have real opinion on the matter