Hotter, Badder, and Unpopularer Takes

[Sestak]

Old thread at capacity.

[RINO Tom]

Texarkana back for round 2??

[Some of My Best Friends Are Gay]

Texarkana back for round 2??

He/she was a poster who also held this viewpoint?

[Wazza [INACTIVE]]

Several hot takes that annoy me:
"Democrats are actually a centre-right party."

"If JFK were alive today he'd be a Republican."

"If Ike were alive today he'd be a Democrat."

"If Reagan were alive today he'd be considered a RINO"

"Before the 1960s the Republican party was the liberal party and the Democratic party was the conservative party."

"[Any Dinesh D'souza historical narrative]"

"Gen Z is a nationalist/conservative generation"

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

"Gen Z is a nationalist/conservative generation"

Or the Catholic-specific equivalent, "Gen Z Catholics are all Marcel Lefebvre clones".

For a hot, bad, or unpopular take that I myself believe: ~THE CONFLICT~ does not need to be and should not be a core leftist/progressive litmus test (although support for Netanyahu should obviously throw up red flags in the same way that support for other right-wing irredentist leaders does).

[they don't love you like i love you]

"Gen Z is a nationalist/conservative generation"

Or the Catholic-specific equivalent, "Gen Z Catholics are all Marcel Lefebvre clones".

For a hot, bad, or unpopular take that I myself believe: ~THE CONFLICT~ does not need to be and should not be a core leftist/progressive litmus test (although support for Netanyahu should obviously throw up red flags in the same way that support for other right-wing irredentist leaders does).

Why not? Not worshiping a concept but following a king is definitely the progressive way.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

"Gen Z is a nationalist/conservative generation"

Or the Catholic-specific equivalent, "Gen Z Catholics are all Marcel Lefebvre clones".

For a hot, bad, or unpopular take that I myself believe: ~THE CONFLICT~ does not need to be and should not be a core leftist/progressive litmus test (although support for Netanyahu should obviously throw up red flags in the same way that support for other right-wing irredentist leaders does).

Why not? Not worshiping a concept but following a king is definitely the progressive way.

I'm not sure what you're responding to. By "~THE CONFLICT~" I mean the Arab-Israeli conflict.

[they don't love you like i love you]

"Gen Z is a nationalist/conservative generation"

Or the Catholic-specific equivalent, "Gen Z Catholics are all Marcel Lefebvre clones".

For a hot, bad, or unpopular take that I myself believe: ~THE CONFLICT~ does not need to be and should not be a core leftist/progressive litmus test (although support for Netanyahu should obviously throw up red flags in the same way that support for other right-wing irredentist leaders does).

Why not? Not worshiping a concept but following a king is definitely the progressive way.

I'm not sure what you're responding to. By "~THE CONFLICT~" I mean the Arab-Israeli conflict.

Its a very obscure inside joke. "The Conflict" is the name of the song that lyric comes from.

Let's put an end to this once and for all.
We've found strength in numbers.
And when your time runs out, what will you believe?
I'm in no search for salvation or sanity.
Your words are bringing me down.
Just leave me be.
A sinking ship, escape from these shackles at home.
Now I'm led to your bleeding heart, and I'm standing alone.
A song, some psalm about hope and fear.
Subject to the words of a voice I don't hear.
Constructing an army of fallen men before my eyes.
But I don't want your council, I walk my own line.
I live the life of the true.
I do not bleed.
My eyes only see the ones who don't believe.
Just the sight of the hopeless with no calling or a place in the sun.
It takes more than might to move the masses.
It takes strength beyond strength to stand for something.
I can see your arms open to welcome the storm.
I see the boundaries.
I know this game.
I can stand with you though we don't see the same.
I want you to know the love that set me free.
I don't worship a concept. I follow a king.
We walk through water to bridge the gap between lives and separate sides.
And when it comes to this, there will be no war; there should be no pride.
You've always hated what you've never known,
And never loved what you were never shown.
Drop your guard and be as strong as "we."
Finally free.
Block out the sun until the walls cave in.
Tearing down the walls between two sides.
Respecting each others lives with no fear no pride.
Bridging the gap that exists, though there are still two sides.
Please know I'm on your side.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Eventually, the political positions associated with religion conservatism that currently poll near 50-50 (such as abortion for example) will shift heavily against the religion conservatism position in a generation or 2 due to loss of membership in those conservative religious institutions from people leaving over disagreements with the religious conservatives opposition to same sex marriage who would otherwise be willing to stay and listen to the religious conservative arguments over other political issues, and set their own politics based on those issues.

The only way religious conservatives can prevent this is if they institutionally triage their discussion on the topic of same sex marriage.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

"The Sorrows of Young Werther" is a terrible book. It does not feature some young, tragic romantic hero, rather it's a story of a little, selfish immature turd who can't take "no" for an answer and decides to off himself just to show them all.

[Big Abraham]

"The Sorrows of Young Werther" is a terrible book. It does not feature some young, tragic romantic hero, rather it's a story of a little, selfish immature turd who can't take "no" for an answer and decides to off himself just to show them all.

I’ve actually read this book and strongly disagree, although I’m also partial to Goethe

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

"The Sorrows of Young Werther" is a terrible book. It does not feature some young, tragic romantic hero, rather it's a story of a little, selfish immature turd who can't take "no" for an answer and decides to off himself just to show them all.

I’ve actually read this book and strongly disagree, although I’m also partial to Goethe

I too am partial to Goethe, particularly for "Faust" (and lesser-known pieces such as "Torquato Tasso "), but I must stand by my opinion on Werther. Maybe I'm just too cynical.

[courts]

Several hot takes that annoy me:
"Democrats are actually a centre-right party."

"If JFK were alive today he'd be a Republican."

"If Ike were alive today he'd be a Democrat."

"If Reagan were alive today he'd be considered a RINO"

"Before the 1960s the Republican party was the liberal party and the Democratic party was the conservative party."

"[Any Dinesh D'souza historical narrative]"

"Gen Z is a nationalist/conservative generation"

enraging

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

There is small but visible minority of Trumpsters that I talk to that flout Maga or Murica or Miltary or Wall etc. and I ask them if in the minuscule chance there was a big military draft would they be willing to go, suddenly all that pomp and flaunt disappears, and they talk about how they could acquire deferments and some of them even talk about plain out draft dodging. And I say in response that I would serve, literally several weeks away from being 18, and give my life if I have to, someone has to, and I am not better than the rest. And I know words are shallow and no one truly knows what will occur unless the moment arrives, but I still think something is telling.

"The world is not fair, and often fools, cowards, liars and the selfish hide in high places." Bryant H. McGill

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

The Spongebob TV Show was designed with the intent of pushing young children into a mindset where far-right political ideology could be implanted more easily.

[Some of My Best Friends Are Gay]

The Spongebob TV Show was designed with the intent of pushing young children into a mindset where far-right political ideology could be implanted more easily.

This is one of the dumbest things I've seen in this entire thread.

As someone who grew up watching the show and still does watch it ocasionally, I never picked up on any political messages whatsoever other than that one episode that dealt with climate change.

Unless you think there's some sort of subliminal right-wing messages hidden in it, which is frankly hilarious.

[Sirius_]

Not only should we maintain birthright citizenship, but anyone who comes here as a child and lives here through to adulthood, no matter how they got here or what their status is, should qualify for citizenship without going through hoops.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Letting campaign workers unionize is a really, really dumb idea, strategically speaking, as well as a PR disaster waiting to happen.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Letting campaign workers unionize is a really, really dumb idea, strategically speaking, as well as a PR disaster waiting to happen.

This would vastly improve elections, both by increasing their spectacle status and by distracting campaign operations from bugging ordinary voters.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

When it comes to the merits of the law, and the decision rendered by SCOTUS, Janus vs. afscme was worse than Buck vs. Bell.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Likud and Hamas are basically 2 sides of the same coin of anti-peace extremism.

The only difference is that Likud receives far more support from the overall Israeli population than Hamas receives from the overall Palestinian population.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Likud and Hamas are basically 2 sides of the same coin of anti-peace extremism.

The only difference is that Likud receives far more support from the overall Israeli population than Hamas receives from the overall Palestinian population.

Percentage of vote received by Likud in the last Israeli election: 23.40%
Percentage of vote received by Hamas in the last Palestinian election: 44.45%

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

"The Sorrows of Young Werther" is a terrible book. It does not feature some young, tragic romantic hero, rather it's a story of a little, selfish immature turd who can't take "no" for an answer and decides to off himself just to show them all.

So you basically read Catcher in the Rye?

[Don Vito Corleone]

The Great Gatsby gets too much hate from High School students; personally, I quite enjoyed the book.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Likud and Hamas are basically 2 sides of the same coin of anti-peace extremism.

The only difference is that Likud receives far more support from the overall Israeli population than Hamas receives from the overall Palestinian population.

Percentage of vote received by Likud in the last Israeli election: 23.40%

In my opinion, this number completely fails to tell the whole situation in Israel. We basically never hear of people in Israel talking about the system failures that allow a party to win elections with that little. For example, the US Presidential Electoral College, the US Senate Apportionment, the US House Gerrymandering, all receive heavy amounts of criticism in the US regarding their systematic failures at ensuring a fair result in US Elections from both political analysts and from politicians themselves. Almost everyone in Israel seems to accept that their system works fine (when it in fact, is a systematic failure of a Democracy) without ever thinking to themselves about whether their government is legitimate.