Have leftist Christians ever caused any problems?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

based off this thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=31399.0

As pointed out, you can point toward all religions for terrorists and brutal regimes, and and atheists such as Stalin. But all such religious problem causers, at least Christian ones, have been right wing.

Now what left wing Christian terrorists have there ever been? What leftist Christians ever set up a brutal regime and tortured and killed many of different religions? Doesn't happen! The only thing I can think of as mentioned in that thread is a few liberation theologists in Latin America.

So basically, we leftist Christians have nothing to be ashamed of, we're vritually spotless. It's only right wing religious zealots that cause all the problems.

[dazzleman]

Exactly.  Your penetrating analysis leaves me awestruck.

[J-Mann]

based off this thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=31399.0

As pointed out, you can point toward all religions for terrorists and brutal regimes, and and atheists such as Stalin. But all such religious problem causers, at least Christian ones, have been right wing.

Now what left wing Christian terrorists have there ever been? What leftist Christians ever set up a brutal regime and tortured and killed many of different religions? Doesn't happen! The only thing I can think of as mentioned in that thread is a few liberation theologists in Latin America.

So basically, we leftist Christians have nothing to be ashamed of, we're vritually spotless. It's only right wing religious zealots that cause all the problems.

Brutal regimes, no, but "problems;" hmmmm...I seem to remember a guy named Jesus causing some hullaballoo a couple thousand years ago.  Maybe he can't be considered a Christian...but that left-wing sect he spawned...hoo boy!  Did they ever challenge society!

[Max Power]

Yes: you.

[Everett]

Emo.

[Richard]

Um the Inquisition?

[Gabu]

Well, given that you'd say that every single person starting what you'd consider a problem is rightist, then by your definitions, leftist Christians have not started any problems.

[John Dibble]

Probably - I've yet to see one group that hasn't caused problems of some sort.

[Richard]

Probably - I've yet to see one group that hasn't caused problems of some sort.

Dem Jews.

[Gabu]

Probably - I've yet to see one group that hasn't caused problems of some sort.

Dem Jews.

They killed Jesus, remember?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Brutal regimes, no, but "problems;" hmmmm...I seem to remember a guy named Jesus causing some hullaballoo a couple thousand years ago.  Maybe he can't be considered a Christian...but that left-wing sect he spawned...hoo boy!  Did they ever challenge society!

Ah yes, but that was a good thing. Thomas Jefferson and George Washington caused some "problems" too.

Um the Inquisition?

How the hell were they leftist?

Well, given that you'd say that every single person starting what you'd consider a problem is rightist, then by your definitions, leftist Christians have not started any problems.

Stalin wasn't a rightist. Mao wasn't a rightist. I'd say they were problems.

In terms of people YOU consider leftists, can you name any leftist Christian terrorists or brutal regimes?

[DanielX]

Brutal regimes, no, but "problems;" hmmmm...I seem to remember a guy named Jesus causing some hullaballoo a couple thousand years ago.  Maybe he can't be considered a Christian...but that left-wing sect he spawned...hoo boy!  Did they ever challenge society!

Ah yes, but that was a good thing. Thomas Jefferson and George Washington caused some "problems" too.

Um the Inquisition?

How the hell were they leftist?

Their economic policies, such that there were, tended to be communitarian in nature (which might make them more populist then leftist, but whatever). Essentially what was 'conserative' pre-Marx would be considered left-of-center today, and vice versa. The 'radicals' of the pre-19th century were mainly capitalists.

[J. J.]

I would cite some of the leftist Christians involved in the anti-war movement in the 1960's and the disarmament movement of the 1980's, especially the Barrigan Brothers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Berrigan

[John Dibble]

Well, given that you'd say that every single person starting what you'd consider a problem is rightist, then by your definitions, leftist Christians have not started any problems.

Stalin wasn't a rightist. Mao wasn't a rightist. I'd say they were problems.

How exactly where they right wing? Didn't they advocate getting rid of religion, collectivising the economy, getting rid of public gun ownership, ect?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I would cite some of the leftist Christians involved in the anti-war movement in the 1960's and the disarmament movement of the 1980's, especially the Barrigan Brothers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Berrigan

Did they kill anyone? No. In fact did they use violence of any type? Nope! All they fought for was peace. Trying to get the US out of Vietnam and preventing nuclear war is sure a good thing in my eyes.

How exactly where they right wing? Didn't they advocate getting rid of religion, collectivising the economy, getting rid of public gun ownership, ect?

Exactly my point. I said they WEREN'T right wing. Thus rebuking his point that I would consider anyone I don't like a rightist.

You said above "Probably", so I ask, what leftist Christian terrorist groups exist? Muslims got al-Qaeda, Christians got Army of God/Eric Rudolph and the like, but those guys are definately right wing. What left wing equivalent exists?

[The Duke]

Latin American liberation theolgy of course comes to mind.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Latin American liberation theolgy of course comes to mind.

Was mentioned, although most did far more good than harm. Was Oscar Romero a bad guy?

[A18]

Almost everything wrong with the country was caused by leftists. Mostly leftist Christians.

To be fair, most aren't actual Christians.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

What exactly is a "leftist Christian" though?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

What exactly is a "leftist Christian" though?

Someone who's both leftist and Christian.

[A18]

Since you think the horse**** called "leftism" is good, obviously you're not going to think they caused any "problems."

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Since you think the horse**** called "leftism" is good, obviously you're not going to think they caused any "problems."

Stalin and Mao caused problems.

[A18]

And?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

That therefore rebukes your claim that I think no leftist has ever caused problems.

As to the original question, I suppose you also could include some people in Lebanon, like the Lebanese Armed Revolutionary Faction, although the things they did were very very minor compared to the Muslims and right wing Christian Falange.

[A18]

A claim I didn't make. Leftist Christians.