Beto O’Rourke 2020 campaign megathread

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

There are already O'Rourke signs around campus, which is, frankly, amazing given how far we are from even the first primaries.

Same with mine.

Its happening.

Several of my friends who were big Sanders supporters back in 2016 appear to have been converted into being Beto supporters. Make of that what you will. Frankly, I was surprised by it.

I'm gradually moving in that direction.  I'm still open to Sanders (and some of the others) though and will almost certainly be undecided until the debates at the earliest.

[SCNCmod]

Beto should get another (maybe larger) Poll bump from Monday's Fundraising announcement...

I noticed the two latest polls (March 17-18th) and the CNN poll taken (March 14-17) ... will not have captured much (or any at all) of the bump resulting from Beto's $6.1 Million fundraising Announcement...

So if Beto got a 3 point bump from his announcement... hopefully he will get another 3 point bounce from the $6.1M Fundraising Announcement.... in the next round of polls (taken after the Monday Announcement.. which most people wouldn't have seen until Monday night).  Because the Fundraising  announcement seemed to clear many doubts people may have had over the weekend (when much of the polling was taking place) during the Beto onslaught.

[lfromnj]

Bernbots about to move the goal posts again:

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1108183569174794240

FYI you can't win this

>IF beto's had less donations and a greater avg donation Berniebots will call him an elitist DNC hack fed by Wall street

If it is the opposite where he had more donations and a lower avg donation Bernie Bots will claim that Beto supporters aren't as motivated.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Bernbots about to move the goal posts again:

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1108183569174794240

FYI you can't win this

>IF beto's had less donations and a greater avg donation Berniebots will call him an elitist DNC hack fed by Wall street

If it is the opposite where he had more donations and a lower avg donation Bernie Bots will claim that Beto supporters aren't as motivated.

This is one of the worst hot takes I've ever read.

[SCNCmod]

I'm sure the new fundraising Number will be above $10 Million... as they will want to show that he reached the $10M number quicker than Bernie (Which it took him a week to reach).  If he gets close to $15 Million it will really be a great announcement- but $10 Million in less than a week is the bar that will surpass Bernie.

[SCNCmod]

The name similarity just registered with me... Was Beto named after Bobby Kennedy?
...Robert Francis

[Cold War Liberal]

Real question, when are we actually going to see Beto’s policies? Because right now the only indication are his blue dog endorsements (plus half of his support on here is from #bothsides moderate heroes, Republicans, and libertarians). I want to like Beto, but I really need to know what he’s running as first.

So when Beto initially said he wasn’t supporting Medicare for All as a presidential candidate I was miffed and briefly stopped supporting him because I thought he had nothing in place and would try to negotiate something with obstructionist Republicans. I walked it back when he came out in favor of Medicare for America which was written by Reps. DeLauro and Schakowsky. Medicare for America would move everyone from the ACA Exchange to Medicare, folks (like myself) who are about to age out of their parent’s insurance can join as well as others not insured, and all children born after its enaction would be born into the program. The main difference between this and Bernie’s plan is that people can retain their employer insurance if they so choose. This is much more realistic and puts us on a path to single payer.

The purists will hate it but it is ambitious and will get us to universal coverage. Eliminating all private insurance is unrealistic.

https://slate.com/business/2019/03/beto-orourke-health-plan-medicare-for-all-america.html

I need to find the link but while 81% of Dems would support Medicare for All, 91% support Medicare for America. Bernie supporters who think he can snap his fingers and make all his dreams the law of the land will resist this but Beto’s plan is progressive and attainable.

It is a crap policy vs Single Payer. It is a buy-in which will have little effect on millions of uninsured & underinsured & would continue to encourage a system with huge per capita spending with poor results.

And it will never lead to Universal healthcare which neoliberals don't want anyways. They just should be open & accept it.

The uninsured, people on Medicaid, and people who get their insurance through the ACA exchanges would automatically be put onto Medicare, while the other half of the country would get to choose between Medicare and their employer’s insurance. Newborns would be automatically enrolled. Everyone would immediately have some form of health insurance - which is what universal coverage is, by definition - and within 40 or so years I guess everyone who currently has employer insurance will be retired or dead, and so by ~2060 everyone will have government insurance.

Not that I’d expect socialists to read legislation; legislating isn’t revolutionary enough and policy is for the bourgeoisie.

[GoTfan]

Real question, when are we actually going to see Beto’s policies? Because right now the only indication are his blue dog endorsements (plus half of his support on here is from #bothsides moderate heroes, Republicans, and libertarians). I want to like Beto, but I really need to know what he’s running as first.

So when Beto initially said he wasn’t supporting Medicare for All as a presidential candidate I was miffed and briefly stopped supporting him because I thought he had nothing in place and would try to negotiate something with obstructionist Republicans. I walked it back when he came out in favor of Medicare for America which was written by Reps. DeLauro and Schakowsky. Medicare for America would move everyone from the ACA Exchange to Medicare, folks (like myself) who are about to age out of their parent’s insurance can join as well as others not insured, and all children born after its enaction would be born into the program. The main difference between this and Bernie’s plan is that people can retain their employer insurance if they so choose. This is much more realistic and puts us on a path to single payer.

The purists will hate it but it is ambitious and will get us to universal coverage. Eliminating all private insurance is unrealistic.

https://slate.com/business/2019/03/beto-orourke-health-plan-medicare-for-all-america.html

I need to find the link but while 81% of Dems would support Medicare for All, 91% support Medicare for America. Bernie supporters who think he can snap his fingers and make all his dreams the law of the land will resist this but Beto’s plan is progressive and attainable.

It is a crap policy vs Single Payer. It is a buy-in which will have little effect on millions of uninsured & underinsured & would continue to encourage a system with huge per capita spending with poor results.

And it will never lead to Universal healthcare which neoliberals don't want anyways. They just should be open & accept it.

The uninsured, people on Medicaid, and people who get their insurance through the ACA exchanges would automatically be put onto Medicare, while the other half of the country would get to choose between Medicare and their employer’s insurance. Newborns would be automatically enrolled. Everyone would immediately have some form of health insurance - which is what universal coverage is, by definition - and within 40 or so years I guess everyone who currently has employer insurance will be retired or dead, and so by ~2060 everyone will have government insurance.

Not that I’d expect socialists to read legislation; legislating isn’t revolutionary enough and policy is for the bourgeoisie.

Yet another scalding hot (and wrong) take.

[Pouring Rain and Blairing Music]

The name similarity just registered with me... Was Beto named after Bobby Kennedy?
...Robert Francis

Wiki links to this article, which talks about his maternal grandfather’s name being Robert V. Williams. Not sure about the Francis part.

[SCNCmod]

The name similarity just registered with me... Was Beto named after Bobby Kennedy?
...Robert Francis

Wiki links to this article, which talks about his maternal grandfather’s name being Robert V. Williams. Not sure about the Francis part.

Wiki shows that Francis is his dads middle name...

But since he was born in 1972, It seems like the combining 2 different family names of Robert and Francis was almost definitely influenced by Robert Francis Kennedy- considering RFK was assassinated just 4 years prior- therefore his name would be freshly on the minds of everyone.
Especially considering another tidbit... His Step Grandfather was JFK's Secretary of the Navy, Fred Korth. (Korth & his Grandmother married later in life- a 2nd marriage for both).


Mar-A-Lago...
Another Interesting fact on wiki regarding Korth- before marrying Beto's Grandmother, he had a long term relationship with the Post cereal heiress until her death in 73 at which time he was executor of her estate, which included Mar-A-Lago.  At this time the property was willed to the US government to be used as a winter white house & entertaining foreign dignitaries.  Some years later, Carter decided the US didn't need it and returned it to the Post Estate. The Estate decided to sell.  (not sure if Fred Korth was still executor of Mrs Post estate.  Presumably he was married to Beto's Grandmother by that time).  The Estate rejected a $15M offer from Trump.  Then Trump began his sort of underhanded scheme to get the property (see wiki article on Mar-A-Lago).

(the above is all from wiki... its worth reading the Mar-A-Lago wiki article.  Trump was even underhanded in how he acquired the property.  Article also cites the $17Million Insurance claim Trump got for a few trees that had fallen) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago

The wiki article on Fred Korth also says he was once the divorce lawyer for Lee Harvey Oswald's Step Father (when he divorced Oswald's mother in 1948).  Sounds like Korth was a mini-Forrest Gump.

[Panhandle Progressive]

The two most important states in 2020 will be Florida & Wisconsin. Amendment 4 (Voting Rights Restoration) having been passed and now implemented in Florida.

Maybe I spoke too soon. YIKES!

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2019/03/19/felon-vote-sparks-battle-for-florida-as-gop-moves-to-define-rights-921875

[GoTfan]

The two most important states in 2020 will be Florida & Wisconsin. Amendment 4 (Voting Rights Restoration) having been passed and now implemented in Florida.

Maybe I spoke too soon. YIKES!

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2019/03/19/felon-vote-sparks-battle-for-florida-as-gop-moves-to-define-rights-921875

Well 2020 is going to a a garbage fire.

[Zaybay]

We got the fundraising numbers:

https://twitter.com/ryanobles/status/1108365181439148037

Id say this is a really great start for Beto, not only because of the fact that he outraised Sanders, but he did so with less people. This means that if Beto's campaign, if he emerges as a frontrunner, could scale rather well, and he may become a fundraising machine.

On the otherhand, this kinda plays into the idea that Beto's numbers were just larger and less plentiful, which may signify a weakness in how large his base is(of course, this is day 1, so I doubt this will stick).

Pretty good day to be a Beto supporter, Id say, and a pretty bad day to be a Sanders/Harris supporter. Now we just need Biden for the full picture.

[Xing]

We got the fundraising numbers:

https://twitter.com/ryanobles/status/1108365181439148037

Id say this is a really great start for Beto, not only because of the fact that he outraised Sanders, but he did so with less people. This means that if Beto's campaign, if he emerges as a frontrunner, could scale rather well, and he may become a fundraising machine.

On the otherhand, this kinda plays into the idea that Beto's numbers were just larger and less plentiful, which may signify a weakness in how large his base is(of course, this is day 1, so I doubt this will stick).

Pretty good day to be a Beto supporter, Id say, and a pretty bad day to be a Sanders/Harris supporter. Now we just need Biden for the full picture.

While those are strong numbers to be sure, I think the fact that Sanders beat him in terms of the number of individual donors by almost 100K is still something to consider. Money does matter, but currently (this could change), it seems like there are more actual voters behind Sanders.

[Pouring Rain and Blairing Music]

We got the fundraising numbers:

https://twitter.com/ryanobles/status/1108365181439148037

Id say this is a really great start for Beto, not only because of the fact that he outraised Sanders, but he did so with less people. This means that if Beto's campaign, if he emerges as a frontrunner, could scale rather well, and he may become a fundraising machine.

On the otherhand, this kinda plays into the idea that Beto's numbers were just larger and less plentiful, which may signify a weakness in how large his base is(of course, this is day 1, so I doubt this will stick).

Pretty good day to be a Beto supporter, Id say, and a pretty bad day to be a Sanders/Harris supporter. Now we just need Biden for the full picture.

While those are strong numbers to be sure, I think the fact that Sanders beat him in terms of the number of individual donors by almost 100K is still something to consider. Money does matter, but currently (this could change), it seems like there are more actual voters behind Sanders.

I think that’s a very valid point. It’s cool that Beto’s numbers are under $50 per person, but there’s still more Sanders folks as of now. It does put to rest the idea that all of Beto’s money came from oil tycoons dropping $2,700 per tycoon on his campaign.

Releasing things piecemeal can be a very good way to keep your name in the news. I feel like that might be what the O’Rourke campaign is trying to do.

[libertpaulian]

/in b4 hofoid says something about "neoliberal billionaire housewives"

We got the fundraising numbers:

https://twitter.com/ryanobles/status/1108365181439148037

Id say this is a really great start for Beto, not only because of the fact that he outraised Sanders, but he did so with less people. This means that if Beto's campaign, if he emerges as a frontrunner, could scale rather well, and he may become a fundraising machine.

On the otherhand, this kinda plays into the idea that Beto's numbers were just larger and less plentiful, which may signify a weakness in how large his base is(of course, this is day 1, so I doubt this will stick).

Pretty good day to be a Beto supporter, Id say, and a pretty bad day to be a Sanders/Harris supporter. Now we just need Biden for the full picture.

While those are strong numbers to be sure, I think the fact that Sanders beat him in terms of the number of individual donors by almost 100K is still something to consider. Money does matter, but currently (this could change), it seems like there are more actual voters behind Sanders.

I think that’s a very valid point. It’s cool that Beto’s numbers are under $50 per person, but there’s still more Sanders folks as of now. It does put to rest the idea that all of Beto’s money came from oil tycoons dropping $2,700 per tycoon on his campaign.

Releasing things piecemeal can be a very good way to keep your name in the news. I feel like that might be what the O’Rourke campaign is trying to do.

I actually think it's pretty good news for Beto.  If he can beat Sanders with a smaller base at this point in time, imagine how much he can raise when he expands his base and manages to get the nod.

[Shadows]

So Beto has like 100K less donors like half the number that Sanders. He has more nunber of donors who has maxed out & most of his donors have on an average less to give vs Individual limit.

I don't think how this is bad for Sanders. He has double the number of donors (almost) than Beto & has raised equal odd amount but his supporters have much more money to give & will donate again & again & again.

Sanders had 8.5M odd individual contributions from 2.5M individual donors in 2016. Beto is polling less than half of Sanders & has shown no noticeable bump in the polls YET.

[riceowl]

So Beto has like 100K less donors like half the number that Sanders. He has more nunber of donors who has maxed out & most of his donors have on an average less to give vs Individual limit.

I don't think how this is bad for Sanders. He has double the number of donors (almost) than Beto & has raised equal odd amount but his supporters have much more money to give & will donate again & again & again.

Sanders had 8.5M odd individual contributions from 2.5M individual donors in 2016. Beto is polling less than half of Sanders & has shown no noticeable bump in the polls YET.

Man Russian bot English is failing.

[SCNCmod]

So Beto has like 100K less donors like half the number that Sanders. He has more nunber of donors who has maxed out & most of his donors have on an average less to give vs Individual limit.

I don't think how this is bad for Sanders. He has double the number of donors (almost) than Beto & has raised equal odd amount but his supporters have much more money to give & will donate again & again & again.

Sanders had 8.5M odd individual contributions from 2.5M individual donors in 2016. Beto is polling less than half of Sanders & has shown no noticeable bump in the polls YET.

Sanders also has a donor list built from a nationwide Full Presidential Primary campaign.  You would expect him to be even farther ahead regarding donors.

Beto got a 3 pt jump from announcement and will probably get another 3 point bounce from his Announcement of raising over $6 Million.  None of the current polls factor in the fundraising announcement which most people would not have found out about until Monday night.  The $6 Million did a lot to calm the onslaught of attacks that came fly this past weekend (when most of the 3 pt bump polls were taken). So don't be surprised if he is close to 14-15 in the next round of polls. 

[Rookie Yinzer]

So Beto has like 100K less donors like half the number that Sanders. He has more nunber of donors who has maxed out & most of his donors have on an average less to give vs Individual limit.

I don't think how this is bad for Sanders. He has double the number of donors (almost) than Beto & has raised equal odd amount but his supporters have much more money to give & will donate again & again & again.

Sanders had 8.5M odd individual contributions from 2.5M individual donors in 2016. Beto is polling less than half of Sanders & has shown no noticeable bump in the polls YET.

Man Russian bot English is failing.

[SCNCmod]

Just saw a clip from Foxnews this morning where they had an ex "Beto Staffer" (no idea in what capacity but he looked around 21-25) on the show trashing Beto (the staffer is now a Bernie Supporter).

So Bernie is teaming up with FOXnews to bash Beto... its pretty clear who other campaigns & other parties fear.  I'm also pretty sure than Beto is the only one that is the target of a Club for Growth attack ad.

On the Plus side- Beto is a little more immune from attacks than most candidates.  Many people will be attracted to Beto for his Charisma & Positive Campaign style- and this type voter tends to not be influenced very much by attacks from other candidates and from Trump & Fox.

[Landslide Lyndon]

So Beto has like 100K less donors like half the number that Sanders. He has more nunber of donors who has maxed out & most of his donors have on an average less to give vs Individual limit.

I don't think how this is bad for Sanders. He has double the number of donors (almost) than Beto & has raised equal odd amount but his supporters have much more money to give & will donate again & again & again.

Sanders had 8.5M odd individual contributions from 2.5M individual donors in 2016. Beto is polling less than half of Sanders & has shown no noticeable bump in the polls YET.

Man Russian bot English is failing.

[Wisconsin SC Race 2019]

Astroturf Beto is at it. Looks like being GOP-lite on Economics like Hillary is working out fine for him.

[GoTfan]

We got the fundraising numbers:

https://twitter.com/ryanobles/status/1108365181439148037

Id say this is a really great start for Beto, not only because of the fact that he outraised Sanders, but he did so with less people. This means that if Beto's campaign, if he emerges as a frontrunner, could scale rather well, and he may become a fundraising machine.

On the otherhand, this kinda plays into the idea that Beto's numbers were just larger and less plentiful, which may signify a weakness in how large his base is(of course, this is day 1, so I doubt this will stick).

Pretty good day to be a Beto supporter, Id say, and a pretty bad day to be a Sanders/Harris supporter. Now we just need Biden for the full picture.

While those are strong numbers to be sure, I think the fact that Sanders beat him in terms of the number of individual donors by almost 100K is still something to consider. Money does matter, but currently (this could change), it seems like there are more actual voters behind Sanders.

I think that’s a very valid point. It’s cool that Beto’s numbers are under $50 per person, but there’s still more Sanders folks as of now. It does put to rest the idea that all of Beto’s money came from oil tycoons dropping $2,700 per tycoon on his campaign.

Releasing things piecemeal can be a very good way to keep your name in the news. I feel like that might be what the O’Rourke campaign is trying to do.

The problem I forsee is that releasing things piecemeal gives more time for other candidates to put together attacks on you. It gives off the impression that you're not that confident. For someone like Sanders, this is some great news.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

/in b4 hofoid says something about "neoliberal billionaire housewives"

We got the fundraising numbers:

https://twitter.com/ryanobles/status/1108365181439148037

Id say this is a really great start for Beto, not only because of the fact that he outraised Sanders, but he did so with less people. This means that if Beto's campaign, if he emerges as a frontrunner, could scale rather well, and he may become a fundraising machine.

On the otherhand, this kinda plays into the idea that Beto's numbers were just larger and less plentiful, which may signify a weakness in how large his base is(of course, this is day 1, so I doubt this will stick).

Pretty good day to be a Beto supporter, Id say, and a pretty bad day to be a Sanders/Harris supporter. Now we just need Biden for the full picture.

While those are strong numbers to be sure, I think the fact that Sanders beat him in terms of the number of individual donors by almost 100K is still something to consider. Money does matter, but currently (this could change), it seems like there are more actual voters behind Sanders.

I think that’s a very valid point. It’s cool that Beto’s numbers are under $50 per person, but there’s still more Sanders folks as of now. It does put to rest the idea that all of Beto’s money came from oil tycoons dropping $2,700 per tycoon on his campaign.

Releasing things piecemeal can be a very good way to keep your name in the news. I feel like that might be what the O’Rourke campaign is trying to do.

I actually think it's pretty good news for Beto.  If he can beat Sanders with a smaller base at this point in time, imagine how much he can raise when he expands his base and manages to get the nod.

He probably has a lot more maxed out donors who can't give again. We'll find out next month when we get the FEC reports.