Bernie Sanders 2020 campaign megathread

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Sanders isn't necessarily all that different on the issues than a lot of Democrats, it's just his delivery that appeals to his supporters. He makes guarantees and that is what people want to hear.

He has plenty of differences. For example:

[Devout Centrist]

I looked at Bernie's platform and basically it's the same as almost all of the other Democratic candidates.

Why is Bernie different? What makes him special?

He's just an egotistical and narcissistic old man that will NEVER be President no matter how hard he tries.

Tell me, who was the person who supported all of those policies back in 2015? Was it Hillary Clinton?

[henster]

Hope other candidates bring up the age issue directly and don't dance around it. Would you trust a 79 year old surgeon to perform on you? Like the President they also make life and death decisions.

[junior chįmp]

Hope other candidates bring up the age issue directly and don't dance around it. Would you trust a 79 year old surgeon to perform on you? Like the President they also make life and death decisions.

If age is such a big deal then why is nobody calling for Ginsburg and Breyer to resign?

[Rookie Yinzer]

Bernie once again trying to court the elusive "White working class" is exactly why he lost the primary in 2016 not because it was rigged.

Focusing on predominantly White and very rural states and not focusing on the base of Democratic Party combined with the fact that there are much more candidates running is exactly why Bernie's campaign will fail just like it did in 2016.

I can't wait to never have to here about Bernie Sanders ever again. It will be a blessing!

Or Bernie can just scoot by winning 30-40% of the vote in states while Booker, Harris, Klobuchar, Biden and O'Rourke all eat away at each other.

(pssst, it's how Trump won the GOP primary in 2016)

There are no winner take all states and highly doubt all those candidates are relevant after Super Tuesday. Beto and Harris will wipe out everyone that night. Warren May be able to hang on but that’s it.

Chicken sh**t Biden isn’t running. He can’t legitimately defend his right wing beliefs.

If Biden is able to win the South and Harris does well in the big, urban states like California and Illinois, that's probably enough vote-splitting to let Sanders get nominated off 30-50% pluralities in states like Ohio and North Carolina.

Biden isn’t winning anything. There is a difference between the pragmatic incrementalism Hillary was proposing and Joe Biden who is a pro-choice Republican. He is vulnerable, and doesn’t have the luxury of being in a binary race with a Vermont Senator with low name ID among black Southerners.

Just imagine how bad he’ll look taking PAC money while everyone else rejects it. He has no genuine grassroots support. He would be propped up by low info voters who just know him as Obama’s VP. These types don’t donate or volunteer in campaigns. Biden needs to hang it up.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

Sanders isn't necessarily all that different on the issues than a lot of Democrats, it's just his delivery that appeals to his supporters. He makes guarantees and that is what people want to hear.

He has plenty of differences. For example:

Gabbard also opposed all three votes, just btw.

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[henster]

Hope other candidates bring up the age issue directly and don't dance around it. Would you trust a 79 year old surgeon to perform on you? Like the President they also make life and death decisions.

If age is such a big deal then why is nobody calling for Ginsburg and Breyer to resign?

They both should've stepped down back in 2013, the fact they could die anytime and be replaced by Trump in the next two years is frightening. And there's absolutely no comparison to being a judge and President.

[Bidenworth2020]

I looked at Bernie's platform and basically it's the same of almost all of the other Democratic candidates.

Why is Bernie different? What makes him special?

He's just an egotistical and narcissistic old man that will NEVER be President no matter how hard he tries.

I’m pretty damn convinced you’re a troll now.

Please. I'm a troll because I don't like Bernie?

You're gonna be surprised to see how Bernie's campaign crashes and fails like it did in 2016.

You’re a troll because you can ask with a straight face how Sanders platform is different from, for instance, Joe Biden or Cory Booker or Amy Klobuchar.

And for dismissing the candidate with perhaps, as of right now, the best chance at becoming the Democratic nominee (in an obviously crowded and chaotic field).

>best chance
>behind by double digits in most polls

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

I looked at Bernie's platform and basically it's the same of almost all of the other Democratic candidates.

Why is Bernie different? What makes him special?

He's just an egotistical and narcissistic old man that will NEVER be President no matter how hard he tries.

I’m pretty damn convinced you’re a troll now.

Please. I'm a troll because I don't like Bernie?

You're gonna be surprised to see how Bernie's campaign crashes and fails like it did in 2016.

You’re a troll because you can ask with a straight face how Sanders platform is different from, for instance, Joe Biden or Cory Booker or Amy Klobuchar.

And for dismissing the candidate with perhaps, as of right now, the best chance at becoming the Democratic nominee (in an obviously crowded and chaotic field).

>best chance
>behind by double digits in most polls

Behind low information voters candidate / paper tiger Joe Biden, yes.

God you people are so disingenuous with your attacks.

[DrScholl]

Hope other candidates bring up the age issue directly and don't dance around it. Would you trust a 79 year old surgeon to perform on you? Like the President they also make life and death decisions.

If age is such a big deal then why is nobody calling for Ginsburg and Breyer to resign?

The most obvious reason is that Trump appointing the replacements would be terrible. The second one is that being on the Supreme Court is a lot less stressful than being President. You hear arguments, write opinions and rule on cases. It's basically a part time job.

And from rumors that I've read, Jane Sanders was controlling much of the campaign last time around because Bernie isn't exactly up to doing everything. That's just a rumor though.

[YE]

Hope other candidates bring up the age issue directly and don't dance around it. Would you trust a 79 year old surgeon to perform on you? Like the President they also make life and death decisions.

Age is just a number. He seems to be in good health overall. Of course it isn’t ideal but it’s not a deal breaker.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

I looked at Bernie's platform and basically it's the same of almost all of the other Democratic candidates.

Why is Bernie different? What makes him special?

He's just an egotistical and narcissistic old man that will NEVER be President no matter how hard he tries.

I’m pretty damn convinced you’re a troll now.

Please. I'm a troll because I don't like Bernie?

You're gonna be surprised to see how Bernie's campaign crashes and fails like it did in 2016.

You’re a troll because you can ask with a straight face how Sanders platform is different from, for instance, Joe Biden or Cory Booker or Amy Klobuchar.

And for dismissing the candidate with perhaps, as of right now, the best chance at becoming the Democratic nominee (in an obviously crowded and chaotic field).

Joe Biden isn't even running (yet).

Most other Democrats running especially Kamala and Warren have almost the same platform as Bernie.

There's nothing special about Bernie and my dislike for him doesn't make me a troll. Don't even try that troll garbage with me. I don't play that game.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Hope other candidates bring up the age issue directly and don't dance around it. Would you trust a 79 year old surgeon to perform on you? Like the President they also make life and death decisions.

Age is just a number. He seems to be in good health overall. Of course it isn’t ideal but it’s not a deal breaker.

No, 80 year old should be President. Being President is not like a regular job.

[Devout Centrist]

Hope other candidates bring up the age issue directly and don't dance around it. Would you trust a 79 year old surgeon to perform on you? Like the President they also make life and death decisions.

Age is just a number. He seems to be in good health overall. Of course it isn’t ideal but it’s not a deal breaker.

No, 80 year old should be President.

I'm glad you support Sanders for President

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

I looked at Bernie's platform and basically it's the same as almost all of the other Democratic candidates.

Why is Bernie different? What makes him special?

He's just an egotistical and narcissistic old man that will NEVER be President no matter how hard he tries.

Tell me, who was the person who supported all of those policies back in 2015? Was it Hillary Clinton?

Hillary platform adopted 88% of Bernie's platform. Bernie did change the narrative and that's good.

However, his and his insufferable supporters (many not all of them) will throw the same tantrum that they did in 2016 when he once again loses the primary in 2020.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

Hope other candidates bring up the age issue directly and don't dance around it. Would you trust a 79 year old surgeon to perform on you? Like the President they also make life and death decisions.

Age is just a number. He seems to be in good health overall. Of course it isn’t ideal but it’s not a deal breaker.

Indeed. This is a concern for me, even as a Sanders supporter. But it’s also why it’s so important Sanders chooses someone who will continue his fight even if he isn’t able to — we can’t have an establishment hack in the VP slot, no way.

[YE]

Hope other candidates bring up the age issue directly and don't dance around it. Would you trust a 79 year old surgeon to perform on you? Like the President they also make life and death decisions.

Age is just a number. He seems to be in good health overall. Of course it isn’t ideal but it’s not a deal breaker.

No, 80 year old should be President. Being President is not like a regular job.

How old is too old then? This isn't as black and white as so may seem. Attacking him on his age is fair but it's not as simple as "Bernie is too old". If 80 is old, what about 70? Where do you draw the line?

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Hope other candidates bring up the age issue directly and don't dance around it. Would you trust a 79 year old surgeon to perform on you? Like the President they also make life and death decisions.

Age is just a number. He seems to be in good health overall. Of course it isn’t ideal but it’s not a deal breaker.

No, 80 year old should be President.

I'm glad you support Sanders for President

Bernie would literally turn 80 years in his first year in office if he were to (unfortunately) be elected President.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

I looked at Bernie's platform and basically it's the same of almost all of the other Democratic candidates.

Why is Bernie different? What makes him special?

He's just an egotistical and narcissistic old man that will NEVER be President no matter how hard he tries.

I’m pretty damn convinced you’re a troll now.

Please. I'm a troll because I don't like Bernie?

You're gonna be surprised to see how Bernie's campaign crashes and fails like it did in 2016.

You’re a troll because you can ask with a straight face how Sanders platform is different from, for instance, Joe Biden or Cory Booker or Amy Klobuchar.

And for dismissing the candidate with perhaps, as of right now, the best chance at becoming the Democratic nominee (in an obviously crowded and chaotic field).

Joe Biden isn't even running (yet).

Most other Democrats running especially Kamala and Warren have almost the same platform as Bernie.

There's nothing special about Bernie and my dislike for him doesn't make me a troll. Don't even try that troll garbage with me. I don't play that game.

Yeah, I’m not playing into your concern trolling and disingenuous attacks on Bernie.

Glad to see I’ve got you so triggered though tough guy.  

Enjoy the next year as Bernie continues to be a formidable contender and grow his campaign. ( :

Curious to see what historic levels of fundraising Bernie accomplishes in 24 hours, too.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Hope other candidates bring up the age issue directly and don't dance around it. Would you trust a 79 year old surgeon to perform on you? Like the President they also make life and death decisions.

Age is just a number. He seems to be in good health overall. Of course it isn’t ideal but it’s not a deal breaker.

No, 80 year old should be President. Being President is not like a regular job.

How old is too old then? This isn't as black and white as so may seem. Attacking him on his age is fair but it's not as simple as "Bernie is too old". If 80 is old, what about 70? Where do you draw the line?

I don't know.

If the best person the U.S. has to be President is an 80 year old man, then thats not a good thing.

The intensity and enormity of being President would not be healthy for an 80 year old man. Look at what the presiency did to Clinton and Obama and they were both relatively young and healthy (as President).

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

I looked at Bernie's platform and basically it's the same of almost all of the other Democratic candidates.

Why is Bernie different? What makes him special?

He's just an egotistical and narcissistic old man that will NEVER be President no matter how hard he tries.

I’m pretty damn convinced you’re a troll now.

Please. I'm a troll because I don't like Bernie?

You're gonna be surprised to see how Bernie's campaign crashes and fails like it did in 2016.

You’re a troll because you can ask with a straight face how Sanders platform is different from, for instance, Joe Biden or Cory Booker or Amy Klobuchar.

And for dismissing the candidate with perhaps, as of right now, the best chance at becoming the Democratic nominee (in an obviously crowded and chaotic field).

Joe Biden isn't even running (yet).

Most other Democrats running especially Kamala and Warren have almost the same platform as Bernie.

There's nothing special about Bernie and my dislike for him doesn't make me a troll. Don't even try that troll garbage with me. I don't play that game.

Yeah, I’m not playing into your concern trolling and disingenuous attacks on Bernie.

Glad to see I’ve got you so triggered though tough guy.  

Enjoy the next year as Bernie continues to be a formidable contender and grow his campaign. ( :

Curious to see what historic levels of fundraising Bernie accomplishes in 24 hours, too.

Concerned trolling? Where was I concern trolling?

You're Exhibit A on why so many people don't like Bernie supporters more than Bernie himself.

Bernie is going to crash and burn. I don't care how much money he raises, it's all going to waste.

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Hope other candidates bring up the age issue directly and don't dance around it. Would you trust a 79 year old surgeon to perform on you? Like the President they also make life and death decisions.

Age is just a number. He seems to be in good health overall. Of course it isn’t ideal but it’s not a deal breaker.

No, 80 year old should be President. Being President is not like a regular job.

How old is too old then? This isn't as black and white as so may seem. Attacking him on his age is fair but it's not as simple as "Bernie is too old". If 80 is old, what about 70? Where do you draw the line?

I don't know.

If the best person the U.S. has to be President is an 80 year old man, then thats not a good thing.

The intensity and enormity of being President would not be healthy for an 80 year old man. Look at what the presiency did to Clinton and Obama and they were both relatively young and healthy (as President).

The Malaysian Prime Minister and Tunisian President were democratically elected and are in their 90s. Bernie is absolutely the best person for President in 2020. We'll see about 2024 when that comes up.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Hope other candidates bring up the age issue directly and don't dance around it. Would you trust a 79 year old surgeon to perform on you? Like the President they also make life and death decisions.

Age is just a number. He seems to be in good health overall. Of course it isn’t ideal but it’s not a deal breaker.

No, 80 year old should be President. Being President is not like a regular job.

How old is too old then? This isn't as black and white as so may seem. Attacking him on his age is fair but it's not as simple as "Bernie is too old". If 80 is old, what about 70? Where do you draw the line?

I don't know.

If the best person the U.S. has to be President is an 80 year old man, then thats not a good thing.

The intensity and enormity of being President would not be healthy for an 80 year old man. Look at what the presiency did to Clinton and Obama and they were both relatively young and healthy (as President).

The Malaysian Prime Minister and Tunisian President were democratically elected and are in their 90s. Bernie is absolutely the best person for President in 2020. We'll see about 2024 when that comes up.

LOL, you again with this ridiculous argument. Just because Malaysia and Tunisia did it doesn't make it OK.

[DrScholl]

Malaysia and Tunisia are not exactly paragons of modern thinking and democracy. The presidency is high pressure and is not a monarchy. There is no throne and Bernie's job wouldn't be to come out and wave to people every few weeks. I'm assuming that some of his supporters expect other people to do the heavy lifting while Bernie acts like Queen Elizabeth.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

Bernie's odds of dying before 2024 aren't that high especially as he's in good health.