Elizabeth Warren 2020 campaign megathread

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

I would like to see her not just supporting dems, but progressive dems. Warren is decidedly to the right of Bernie and her record shows that she should not be completely trusted.

Jessica Cisneros and Marie Newman say hello. Also the fact that Sara Gideon is no John Hickenlooper or Emily Cain.

Warren's also good enough to be my 1b, and if the trend of Bernie sinking holds up, I may wind up voting for her. Despite my vocal support, my main concern is stopping Biden (who would be a third term of Mitch McConnell controlling the country).

You just registered and you have 6 straight posts attacking Warren, looks like her surging poll numbers really does have the Bernie Bros freaking out.

Apparently racist and sexist attacks on the other half of the progressive movement are unity and outreach.

[Landslide Lyndon]

You just registered and you have 6 straight posts attacking Warren, looks like her surging poll numbers really does have the Bernie Bros freaking out.

A complete lack of policy based criticism, I see.

Master Yoda?

[GP270watch]

Apparently racist and sexist attacks on the other half of the progressive movement are unity and outreach.

 Quick to say something about my little pushback against trolling anti-Warren posters, but says nothing at all about their attacks. Don't want to be associated with Bernie Bros, then call out their behavior.

 I personally don't give a crap about outreach to Sanders supporters, that ship has sailed. The stakes are too high to baby huge babies.

[Continential]

-snip-

Now this is what I want to see.

In addition to investment in the Maine Senate race, the memo from Roger Lau mentions support for:
-House Dems in "states like" Illinois and California, where the party has freshmen to defend
-Investment in Georgia to support Dems in BOTH Senate races
-state legislative campaigns in Michigan and Minnesota
-state parties in Texas and Florida

Liz is building the party. She's the only candidate that fully understands the stakes of this next election and is ACTING on it.

I would like to see her not just supporting dems, but progressive dems. Warren is decidedly to the right of Bernie and her record shows that she should not be completely trusted.

Shut up. She endorsed two progressive women primarying conservative Dems in safe D seats two weeks ago.

Excited seeing her invest ME, GA, and TX early. Surprised it wasn’t in the memo but she will be investing in NC too.

No.

Can you provide any information to prove that Warren has been funneling money to and endorsing progressives? I know she endorsed Markey (which is good) but she had been extremely friendly with the corrupt Democratic establishment recently, when Bernie has not.

She endorsed Newman and Cisnerous.

[GP270watch]

You just registered and you have 6 straight posts attacking Warren, looks like her surging poll numbers really does have the Bernie Bros freaking out.

A complete lack of policy based criticism, I see.

Where did you talk about policy? You just came in basically saying she's a pretender and a wolf in sheep's clothing. If you want to discuss substance, bring substance.

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

Quick to say something about my little pushback against trolling anti-Warren posters, but says nothing at all about their attacks. Don't want to be associated with Bernie Bros, then call out their behavior.

There are ways to call out anti-Warren people without using racist/sexist stereotypes. Check the other part of my post you quoted for an example.

(We also don't need 5 posts talking about how Pocahontas BS is a GOP talking point)

[GP270watch]

Quick to say something about my little pushback against trolling anti-Warren posters, but says nothing at all about their attacks. Don't want to be associated with Bernie Bros, then call out their behavior.

There are ways to call out anti-Warren people without being racist or sexist. Check the other part of my post you quoted for an example.

(We also don't need 5 posts talking about how Pocahontas BS is a GOP talking point)

 I wasn't racist or sexist, and if the Bernie Bros keep coming into a positive thread for the sole purpose of dragging it down I will call it out every time. You get the same energy you give.

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

I wasn't racist or sexist, and if the Bernie Bros keep coming into a positive thread for the sole purpose of dragging it down I will call it out every time. You get the same energy you give.

Bernie Bro is a racist, sexist stereotype, created in a satirical article to stereotype Bernie supporters as white males. When it exploded in popularity and got scrutiny, he then doubled down on the satire, all while showering his preferred candidate with praise.

Much like Chris Rock's infamous stand-up routine, it turned into a bludgeon for privileged whites to express their racism and sexism. While obviously not as severe as ToS Violation, it erases women and people of color who support Bernie, and paints each group as a monolithic bloc. Not to mention it's absurd to use the term while attacking people like Susan Sarandon and Briahna Joy Gray.

You saw similar, smaller attempts to stereotype with Barack Obama in 2008. You see the same stereotypes here that you do for Bernie - young, white men with a whole bunch of internalized misogyny looking for a liberal Messiah. "Obama boy" and "Bernie Bro" had the same purpose: to portray Hillary Clinton as the only candidate fighting for women. I can't speak to your race or gender, but it's even worse if you're a white man, since it's extremely paternalistic.

"You get the same energy you give" sounds good. There are ways to call out attacks against Warren without being generally vile (notice how I didn't call out Alfred or Mohamed). If you start using terms with racist and sexist connotations, I'll call it out every time. When you say the term "Bernie Bro", what you're really saying to women/POC is "If you don't support my candidate, you're selling out your people."

[Beet]

Today is a big day for Warren. Sanders has effectively signed on to one of her biggest revenue raising plans as a campaign issue and Pelosi has endorsed her months-old position on Impeachment. Once again Warren is showing herself a leader. The only question now is should she try to one up Sanders by releasing even more ambitious propsals?

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Today is a big day for Warren. Sanders has effectively signed on to one of her biggest revenue raising plans as a campaign issue and Pelosi has endorsed her months-old position on Impeachment. Once again Warren is showing herself a leader. The only question now is should she try to one up Sanders by releasing even more ambitious propsals?

Are you claiming that Bernie stole the idea of a wealth tax from Warren? That's completely wrong. Bernie has had wealth tax bills since 2014, and Warren hasn't co-sponsored any of them.

[Donerail]

I personally don't give a crap about outreach to Sanders supporters, that ship has sailed.

Why does something tell me you won't be saying the same thing come November 2020? With this kind of rhetoric, gonna be kinda tough to blame us for voting third party...

[Beet]

Today is a big day for Warren. Sanders has effectively signed on to one of her biggest revenue raising plans as a campaign issue and Pelosi has endorsed her months-old position on Impeachment. Once again Warren is showing herself a leader. The only question now is should she try to one up Sanders by releasing even more ambitious propsals?

Are you claiming that Bernie stole the idea of a wealth tax from Warren? That's completely wrong. Bernie has had wealth tax bills since 2014, and Warren hasn't co-sponsored any of them.

That's an awfully sensitive take. She's been campaigning on this for months, people at her rallies literally chant "two cents", and today Bernie added it to his plank for the first time. That's what I meant.

[Landslide Lyndon]

I personally don't give a crap about outreach to Sanders supporters, that ship has sailed.

Why does something tell me you won't be saying the same thing come November 2020? With this kind of rhetoric, gonna be kinda tough to blame us for voting third party...

Yeah, let's reelect Trump because somebody was mean to me at an internet forum.

[John Dule]

I wasn't racist or sexist, and if the Bernie Bros keep coming into a positive thread for the sole purpose of dragging it down I will call it out every time. You get the same energy you give.

Bernie Bro is a racist, sexist stereotype, created in a satirical article to stereotype Bernie supporters as white males. When it exploded in popularity and got scrutiny, he then doubled down on the satire, all while showering his preferred candidate with praise.

Much like Chris Rock's infamous stand-up routine, it turned into a bludgeon for privileged whites to express their racism and sexism. While obviously not as severe as ToS Violation, it erases women and people of color who support Bernie, and paints each group as a monolithic bloc. Not to mention it's absurd to use the term while attacking people like Susan Sarandon and Briahna Joy Gray.

You saw similar, smaller attempts to stereotype with Barack Obama in 2008. You see the same stereotypes here that you do for Bernie - young, white men with a whole bunch of internalized misogyny looking for a liberal Messiah. "Obama boy" and "Bernie Bro" had the same purpose: to portray Hillary Clinton as the only candidate fighting for women. I can't speak to your race or gender, but it's even worse if you're a white man, since it's extremely paternalistic.

"You get the same energy you give" sounds good. There are ways to call out attacks against Warren without being generally vile (notice how I didn't call out Alfred or Mohamed). If you start using terms with racist and sexist connotations, I'll call it out every time. When you say the term "Bernie Bro", what you're really saying to women/POC is "If you don't support my candidate, you're selling out your people."

The Berniebro is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a progressive, leftist, radical, socialist, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Berniebro and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

[GP270watch]

I personally don't give a crap about outreach to Sanders supporters, that ship has sailed.

Why does something tell me you won't be saying the same thing come November 2020? With this kind of rhetoric, gonna be kinda tough to blame us for voting third party...

 Shut up. I don't care if you vote for an orange clown who stands against everything you're supposedly for because you want to "own the neo-libs" or a third party that insures his victory, that's your problem. Go play that broken record some place else.

[GeneralMacArthur]

You saw similar, smaller attempts to stereotype with Barack Obama in 2008. You see the same stereotypes here that you do for Bernie - young, white men with a whole bunch of internalized misogyny looking for a liberal Messiah. "Obama boy" and "Bernie Bro" had the same purpose: to portray Hillary Clinton as the only candidate fighting for women. I can't speak to your race or gender, but it's even worse if you're a white man, since it's extremely paternalistic.

As an Obama '08 hyperpartisan who was everywhere on the internet that year, I literally never heard of "Obama Boys".

The entire concept of this slur campaign seems to be gaslighting from Bernie Bros desperate to whatabout and deflect attention from their own atrocious behavior.

As a side note, could you not try to start that flame battle about "Bernie Bros" in this thread as well?  You already did it in the Sanders one and the mods told you to stop.  We get that this is your opinion.  Plenty of people disagree or (like me) think you're just being pedantic as a distraction.  Drop it.

[GP270watch]

"You get the same energy you give" sounds good. There are ways to call out attacks against Warren without being generally vile (notice how I didn't call out Alfred or Mohamed). If you start using terms with racist and sexist connotations, I'll call it out every time. When you say the term "Bernie Bro", what you're really saying to women/POC is "If you don't support my candidate, you're selling out your people."

 Complete nonsense. Stop using women/POC as human shields for the Bernie Bros who act like jerks online. Call out the Bernie Bros before we have to and if you won't, don't cry about made up racism and sexism, when you're letting a group of trolls attack all our Democratic women candidates with overtly sexist attacks.


 This was a very good thread about Elizabeth Warren's policies and campaigning, as soon as the Bernie people get involved it becomes about nonsense and turns divisive. This is the very reason why Bernie Sanders and his supporters could never build a political revolution.

[GoTfan]

-snip-

Now this is what I want to see.

In addition to investment in the Maine Senate race, the memo from Roger Lau mentions support for:
-House Dems in "states like" Illinois and California, where the party has freshmen to defend
-Investment in Georgia to support Dems in BOTH Senate races
-state legislative campaigns in Michigan and Minnesota
-state parties in Texas and Florida

Liz is building the party. She's the only candidate that fully understands the stakes of this next election and is ACTING on it.

I would like to see her not just supporting dems, but progressive dems. Warren is decidedly to the right of Bernie and her record shows that she should not be completely trusted.

I prefer Sanders too, but saying Warren doesn't deserve progressive support is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

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"You get the same energy you give" sounds good. There are ways to call out attacks against Warren without being generally vile (notice how I didn't call out Alfred or Mohamed). If you start using terms with racist and sexist connotations, I'll call it out every time. When you say the term "Bernie Bro", what you're really saying to women/POC is "If you don't support my candidate, you're selling out your people."

 Complete nonsense. Stop using women/POC as human shields for the Bernie Bros who act like jerks online. Call out the Bernie Bros before we have to and if you won't, don't cry about made up racism and sexism, when you're letting a group of trolls attack all our Democratic women candidates with overtly sexist attacks.


 This was a very good thread about Elizabeth Warren's policies and campaigning, as soon as the Bernie people get involved it becomes about nonsense and turns divisive. This is the very reason why Bernie Sanders and his supporters could never build a political revolution.

The people who have been gaslighting progressives for the last 4 years are far more obnoxious than the mythical "Bernie Bro".

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

You saw similar, smaller attempts to stereotype with Barack Obama in 2008. You see the same stereotypes here that you do for Bernie - young, white men with a whole bunch of internalized misogyny looking for a liberal Messiah. "Obama boy" and "Bernie Bro" had the same purpose: to portray Hillary Clinton as the only candidate fighting for women. I can't speak to your race or gender, but it's even worse if you're a white man, since it's extremely paternalistic.

As an Obama '08 hyperpartisan who was everywhere on the internet that year, I literally never heard of "Obama Boys".

The entire concept of this slur campaign seems to be gaslighting from Bernie Bros desperate to whatabout and deflect attention from their own atrocious behavior.

Yes, that's why I said "smaller" in my post. The "Obama boy" stereotype was created around the time Obama became the presumptive nominee, as opposed to Bernie Bro being created long after the NH primary. There was no time for the label to stick - Obama had already won.

As a side note, could you not try to start that flame battle about "Bernie Bros" in this thread as well?  You already did it in the Sanders one and the mods told you to stop.  We get that this is your opinion.  Plenty of people disagree or (like me) think you're just being pedantic as a distraction.  Drop it.

Nah, the mods didn't tell me to stop. That was you and your defamatory BS.

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

Can we please talk about something else? This discussion is incredibly boring.

[Landslide Lyndon]

The people who have been gaslighting progressives for the last 4 years are far more obnoxious than the mythical "Bernie Bro".

Isn't it ironic that the epitome of a Bernie bro calls them "mythical"?

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

"You get the same energy you give" sounds good. There are ways to call out attacks against Warren without being generally vile (notice how I didn't call out Alfred or Mohamed). If you start using terms with racist and sexist connotations, I'll call it out every time. When you say the term "Bernie Bro", what you're really saying to women/POC is "If you don't support my candidate, you're selling out your people."

 Complete nonsense. Stop using women/POC as human shields for the Bernie Bros who act like jerks online. Call out the Bernie Bros before we have to and if you won't, don't cry about made up racism and sexism, when you're letting a group of trolls attack all our Democratic women candidates with overtly sexist attacks.

 This was a very good thread about Elizabeth Warren's policies and campaigning, as soon as the Bernie people get involved it becomes about nonsense and turns divisive. This is the very reason why Bernie Sanders and his supporters could never build a political revolution.

Like I said, we don't need a fifth post saying "POCAHONTAS BAD" or "GOP TALKING POINTS STUPID". Me posting it would add nothing to the discussion and change no minds.

If you decided to present your point in a way that didn't erase people, we would have been fine. Even if you stereotyped me as part of that group, I would have smiled, nodded, and moved on my merry way. Instead, you decided to inject bigotry into the conversation, continued to use said bigoted stereotypes after being called out on your BS, continued to paternalize the groups you marginalized, and deflected from your issues. Now, the thread's gone to ****.

I'll call out racism any time I see it on here, whether it be from the right or the center. You want me to be blunt? Keep your bigotry to your goddamn self if you don't want to be called a bigot.

This is the last thing I will say on the subject.

[Landslide Lyndon]

"You get the same energy you give" sounds good. There are ways to call out attacks against Warren without being generally vile (notice how I didn't call out Alfred or Mohamed). If you start using terms with racist and sexist connotations, I'll call it out every time. When you say the term "Bernie Bro", what you're really saying to women/POC is "If you don't support my candidate, you're selling out your people."

 Complete nonsense. Stop using women/POC as human shields for the Bernie Bros who act like jerks online. Call out the Bernie Bros before we have to and if you won't, don't cry about made up racism and sexism, when you're letting a group of trolls attack all our Democratic women candidates with overtly sexist attacks.

 This was a very good thread about Elizabeth Warren's policies and campaigning, as soon as the Bernie people get involved it becomes about nonsense and turns divisive. This is the very reason why Bernie Sanders and his supporters could never build a political revolution.

Like I said, we don't need a fifth posts saying "POCAHONTAS BAD" or "GOP TALKING POINTS STUPID". Me posting it would add nothing to the discussion and change no minds.

If you decided to present your point in a way that didn't stereotype people, we would have been fine. I would have smiled, nodded, and moved on my merry way. Instead, you decided to inject bigotry into the conversation, continued to use said bigoted stereotypes after being called out on your BS, continued to paternalize the groups you marginalized, and deflected from your issues. Now, the thread's gone to ****.

I'll call out racism any time I see it on here, whether it be from the right or the center. You want me to be blunt? Keep your bigotry to yourself if you don't want to be called a bigot.

[GP270watch]

Like I said, we don't need a fifth posts saying "POCAHONTAS BAD" or "GOP TALKING POINTS STUPID". Me posting it would add nothing to the discussion and change no minds.


I'll call out racism any time I see it on here, whether it be from the right or the center. You want me to be blunt? Keep your bigotry to your goddamn self if you don't want to be called a bigot.

 You are a liar. You don't call out obvious racism as you yourself stated because it's just too much for you, so you say nothing. But let somebody use the term Bernie Bro and you infer all kinds of gibberish about racism and sexism when nobody said anything racist or sexist. This is completely pathetic, especially when the attacks by the Bernie Bros always seem to be loaded with extra vitriol against our Democratic women candidates. Your line of thinking seems very dubious to me.