NC-SEN 2020: Tar Heel Tillis

[NewYorkExpress]

I'm moving this one from Tilt D to Tilt R (just like half the forum it seems)

Biden now has to carry North Carolina for Cunningham to win. Cooper's coattails alone aren't going to be enough anymore.

This could go back to Tilt D or to Lean R, depending on how the next week or so goes for Tillis/Cunningham.

[ProgressiveModerate]

Just a reminder; Cunningham leads by an average of 6% in polls with 47% of the vote. This means that this would have to cause essentially 90% of the undecides to break Tillis's way which seems unlikely.

[GALeftist]

Looking forward to a week from now when this has all blown over and no one's being doomer anymore.

[Skunk]

If anything the bigger scandal is that the texts he sent makes him come across as a total dork.

[VAR]

Cunningham tests negative.

[SenatorCouzens]

Also it can't be understated how inelastic this state is

Tillis has been running a few points behind Trump, and it's likely that Cunningham needs that to be the case in order for him to win.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Also it can't be understated how inelastic this state is

Tillis has been running a few points behind Trump, and it's likely that Cunningham needs that to be the case in order for him to win.

Yeah, but Cooper is likely to give Cunningham the coattails he needs to win the race. Cooper is likely to win 55/45 margin enough for Cunningham to overcome the Dixiecrat tendacy of NC

[Skye]

And you are historically sexy 😘

Who am I to judge this guy's pickup lines.

[Alben Barkley]

I doubt this will hurt Cunningham’s chances too bad. Especially with all the other crap going on, it’s hard to imagine anyone caring too much about nonsense like this. That said, another reason we need to invest in the Georgia seats, Montana, Iowa, etc.

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

Reading these text messages I think Cunningham should run for Senator from Virginia instead of North Carolina.

[LtNOWIS]

If it was consensual who cares?

The wife he cheated on didn’t consent to this.

How do you know what his wife is or isn't okay with?

He's dumb. But a crime wasn't committed. People have sex and cheat everyday. Will he vote in favor of the policies I support? Yes? Ok, next.

Except if he did have sex, the military could court martial him because the husband of the woman he was cheating with is an enlisted man in the military. I don't think it goes that serious but it could go that far.

That's not how adultery charges work under UCMJ. Adultery is only illegal if it is detrimental to the good order and discipline of the unit. If you have sex with the spouse of a fellow soldier, it could cause bad blood in the unit, and could theoretically be prosecutable. If you cheat on your spouse with a random person, it isn't. If a commander goes to a JAG office and asks for such a "crime" to be prosecuted, the lawyers will politely explain that they won't be doing that.

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/10/sex-scandal-roils-north-carolina-senate-race.php



I've never cheated on my wife.  She's never cheated on me.  One of the things I love the most about her is that she's a loyal and faithful wife, and I wish to remain a loyal and faithful husband.  Now I know that better men than me have fallen.  I pray this not be me.  But I certainly hope that I have enough good sense to maintain monogamy if I'm going to run for public office.

Doing this when you're seeking to run for the US Senate requires on to be a special kind of stupid, to be honest.  If someone like this can't refuse an outside dalliance, what's the chance they're refuse a bribe if they think no one's watching?  It begs the question of just how compartmentalized people can be.

This guy, Cunningham, is a special kind of stupid.  Sadly, if he's elected, he won't be unique on either side of the aisle.

[Benjamin Frank]

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/10/sex-scandal-roils-north-carolina-senate-race.php



I've never cheated on my wife.  She's never cheated on me.  One of the things I love the most about her is that she's a loyal and faithful wife, and I wish to remain a loyal and faithful husband.  Now I know that better men than me have fallen.  I pray this not be me.  But I certainly hope that I have enough good sense to maintain monogamy if I'm going to run for public office.

Doing this when you're seeking to run for the US Senate requires on to be a special kind of stupid, to be honest.  If someone like this can't refuse an outside dalliance, what's the chance they're refuse a bribe if they think no one's watching?  It begs the question of just how compartmentalized people can be.

This guy, Cunningham, is a special kind of stupid.  Sadly, if he's elected, he won't be unique on either side of the aisle.

This from a Trump supporter.  Trump not only has cheated on his wife but did so with prostitutes.  A person has to be a special kind of stupid to not admit/realize that Trump was 'client zero.'

I don't know what it is about some of these social conservatives.  They seem to have some kind of obsessive need to act morally righteous, even after constantly demonstrating they're perfectly willing to forgive the same behavior in candidates they support.

[Nutmeg]

He's dumb. But a crime wasn't committed. People have sex and cheat everyday. Will he vote in favor of the policies I support? Yes? Ok, next.

Except if he did have sex, the military could court martial him because the husband of the woman he was cheating with is an enlisted man in the military. I don't think it goes that serious but it could go that far.

Very unlikely. The woman's husband is an Army veteran, and it does not appear that Cunningham and he ever were in the same chain of command or otherwise knew one another, so this action would not be detrimental to good order.

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/10/sex-scandal-roils-north-carolina-senate-race.php



I've never cheated on my wife.  She's never cheated on me.  One of the things I love the most about her is that she's a loyal and faithful wife, and I wish to remain a loyal and faithful husband.  Now I know that better men than me have fallen.  I pray this not be me.  But I certainly hope that I have enough good sense to maintain monogamy if I'm going to run for public office.

Doing this when you're seeking to run for the US Senate requires on to be a special kind of stupid, to be honest.  If someone like this can't refuse an outside dalliance, what's the chance they're refuse a bribe if they think no one's watching?  It begs the question of just how compartmentalized people can be.

This guy, Cunningham, is a special kind of stupid.  Sadly, if he's elected, he won't be unique on either side of the aisle.

This from a Trump supporter.  Trump not only has cheated on his wife but did so with prostitutes. 

I don't know what it is about these social conservatives.  They seem to have some kind of obsessive need to act morally righteous, even after constantly demonstrating they're perfectly willing to forgive the same behavior in candidates they support.

Trump's misbehavior, sexually, was long in the past, and at a time when he wasn't thinking of public office.  That doesn't justify what he did, but he certainly appears to have made the decision to clean up his act before running for office.  

Cunningham didn't have the brains or good sense to cut this thing off before he started taking money from donors.  That's kind of a moral issue, is it not?  What kind of good faith am I keeping with my supporters when I ask for their commitments of time and money and I'm acting in a way that could damage my chances of being elected in such a drastic way?  Adultery is a trust issue, and someone who's actively engaging in an extramarital affair while asking for votes is a person that is going to be distrusted by people who are not overly partisan.  The special few that will decide NC's Senate election.  The time for philandering pols and wannabe pols to resolve their issues of adulterous affairs is BEFORE they announce a run for office.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Trump's misbehavior, sexually, was long in the past, and at a time when he wasn't thinking of public office.  That doesn't justify what he did, but he certainly appears to have made the decision to clean up his act before running for office.  

He paid hush money to a porn star while he was running for president. But then again I'm sure you knew that.

[Benjamin Frank]

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/10/sex-scandal-roils-north-carolina-senate-race.php



I've never cheated on my wife.  She's never cheated on me.  One of the things I love the most about her is that she's a loyal and faithful wife, and I wish to remain a loyal and faithful husband.  Now I know that better men than me have fallen.  I pray this not be me.  But I certainly hope that I have enough good sense to maintain monogamy if I'm going to run for public office.

Doing this when you're seeking to run for the US Senate requires on to be a special kind of stupid, to be honest.  If someone like this can't refuse an outside dalliance, what's the chance they're refuse a bribe if they think no one's watching?  It begs the question of just how compartmentalized people can be.

This guy, Cunningham, is a special kind of stupid.  Sadly, if he's elected, he won't be unique on either side of the aisle.

This from a Trump supporter.  Trump not only has cheated on his wife but did so with prostitutes. 

I don't know what it is about these social conservatives.  They seem to have some kind of obsessive need to act morally righteous, even after constantly demonstrating they're perfectly willing to forgive the same behavior in candidates they support.

Trump's misbehavior, sexually, was long in the past, and at a time when he wasn't thinking of public office.  That doesn't justify what he did, but he certainly appears to have made the decision to clean up his act before running for office.  

Cunningham didn't have the brains or good sense to cut this thing off before he started taking money from donors.  That's kind of a moral issue, is it not?  What kind of good faith am I keeping with my supporters when I ask for their commitments of time and money and I'm acting in a way that could damage my chances of being elected in such a drastic way?  Adultery is a trust issue, and someone who's actively engaging in an extramarital affair while asking for votes is a person that is going to be distrusted by people who are not overly partisan.  The special few that will decide NC's Senate election.  The time for philandering pols and wannabe pols to resolve their issues of adulterous affairs is BEFORE they announce a run for office.

This is what you wrote initially:
" If someone like this can't refuse an outside dalliance, what's the chance they're refuse a bribe if they think no one's watching?  It begs the question of just how compartmentalized people can be."

Donald Trump still denies that he ever even committed adultery.  If he can't even admit to something that 'everybody knows' what's the chance he'd refuse a bribe if he either thinks nobody is watching, or, if caught, that he'd simply deny knowing that many of his supporters would believe his denials?

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

Trump's misbehavior, sexually, was long in the past, and at a time when he wasn't thinking of public office.  That doesn't justify what he did, but he certainly appears to have made the decision to clean up his act before running for office.  

He paid hush money to a porn star while he was running for president. But then again I'm sure you knew that.

Stormy Daniels wasn't his finest hour.  The affair, however, occurred in 2006.  I have no problem with Trump paying hush money to Stormy Daniels.  That's not a crime.

I'll be OK with Cunningham blowing this seat preserving the GOP majority, Lyndon.  OK as Oklahoma! 

[Landslide Lyndon]

I have no problem with Trump paying hush money to Stormy Daniels.  That's not a crime.

Then you have forfeited any right to judge someone else's  morality.

[Benjamin Frank]

Trump's misbehavior, sexually, was long in the past, and at a time when he wasn't thinking of public office.  That doesn't justify what he did, but he certainly appears to have made the decision to clean up his act before running for office.  

He paid hush money to a porn star while he was running for president. But then again I'm sure you knew that.

Stormy Daniels wasn't his finest hour.  The affair, however, occurred in 2006.  I have no problem with Trump paying hush money to Stormy Daniels.  That's not a crime.

I'll be OK with Cunningham blowing this seat preserving the GOP majority, Lyndon.  OK as Oklahoma!  

Situational morality or some such thing.  What a joke.

It is actually a crime.  It's why Michael Cohen went to jail. It was an illegal campaign finance violation.  Hush money is also a crime if it's used to obstruct justice.

It seems increasingly clear the reason the only person who was charged over this was Cohen, when he was just acting as the go-between, is because Bill Barr puts his thumbs on the investigation.

[Skunk]

OK as Oklahoma! 

Well, Oklahoma is a s**thole so I'm glad you are agreeing that Donald Trump's actions are morally reprehensible and look forward to your endorsement of Joe Biden.

[DrScholl]

Stop engaging Fuzzy Bear's moralizing and trolling.

[WD]

People actually still think Cunningham will lose because of this? LOL

[Suburbia]

Madison Cawthorn probably beats Cunningham in 2026 under a Harris midterm

VP Cooper could move the needle the way VP Pence helped Braun beat Donnelly in 2018

Lol, that pathetic braindead Nazi sympathizing loser is barely hanging on in his house race for a deep red seat, no way would he ever be win a statewide race.

Cawthorn is a rising star, he'll be around for a while. If not Senate in 2022, 2026, probably Governor in 2024

[Benjamin Frank]

Madison Cawthorn probably beats Cunningham in 2026 under a Harris midterm

VP Cooper could move the needle the way VP Pence helped Braun beat Donnelly in 2018

Lol, that pathetic braindead Nazi sympathizing loser is barely hanging on in his house race for a deep red seat, no way would he ever be win a statewide race.

Cawthorn is a rising star, he'll be around for a while. If not Senate in 2022, 2026, probably Governor in 2024

Cawthorn could well lose to Moe Davis.
https://moedavisforcongress.com/