NC-SEN 2020: Tar Heel Tillis

[Alben Barkley]

I agree with almost all of that accept that 2022 is shaping up to most likely be a Republican year

Nothing indicates this so far.
Do you say this based on anything tangible?

Based on 2010 and 1994 and the certainty the economy will still have high unemployment even if recovering.

This.

Joe Biden is clearly up in the polls, especially where it matters.

The economy will not at all recover in two years from this so you have a Dem president with a terrible economy. I don't think thats great news for democrats.

And then Biden proceeds to lose in 2024, or just retire and be replaced by Tom Cotton.

If it follows the pattern from 2008-2010-2012, or 1992-1994-1996, then no he won’t lose. (Or his VP if he doesn’t run again.)

[Epaminondas]

I agree with almost all of that accept that 2022 is shaping up to most likely be a Republican year

Nothing indicates this so far.
Do you say this based on anything tangible?

Based on 2010 and 1994 and the certainty the economy will still have high unemployment even if recovering.

Trump overlooks fantastic economy and loses => Voters become nostalgic and reward the GOP in 2022
Trump tanks the economy => the recession lasts, Trump's successor takes the blame, voters reward GOP in 2022

Am I doing this right?

Some posters say it like it's written in the stars that 2022 will be GOP wave year.

[Brittain33]

I agree with almost all of that accept that 2022 is shaping up to most likely be a Republican year

Nothing indicates this so far.
Do you say this based on anything tangible?

Based on 2010 and 1994 and the certainty the economy will still have high unemployment even if recovering.

Trump overlooks fantastic economy and loses => Voters become nostalgic and reward the GOP in 2022
Trump tanks the economy => the recession lasts, Trump's successor takes the blame, voters reward GOP in 2022

Am I doing this right?

Some posters say it like it's written in the stars that 2022 will be GOP wave year.

We are scarred by the history we experienced.

[Lechasseur]

The economy will not at all recover in two years from this so you have a Dem president with a terrible economy. I don't think thats great news for democrats.

Agreed, it won't recover

[Lognog]

I agree with almost all of that accept that 2022 is shaping up to most likely be a Republican year

Nothing indicates this so far.
Do you say this based on anything tangible?

Based on 2010 and 1994 and the certainty the economy will still have high unemployment even if recovering.

Trump overlooks fantastic economy and loses => Voters become nostalgic and reward the GOP in 2022
Trump tanks the economy => the recession lasts, Trump's successor takes the blame, voters reward GOP in 2022

Am I doing this right?

Some posters say it like it's written in the stars that 2022 will be GOP wave year.

I mean the last four midterms in a row were partisan waves against the incumbent president

the biggest factor for reelection of the president is the economy

we are just a few months from November and the economy shrunk 5%

I'm not saying its for sure but its not ridiculous to think Trump might lose and the same pattern that's been happening for the last fourteen years repeats itself

[Pollster]

More bad news for Burr.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1260752967067525120?s=20

Might be time to reopen the megathread for NC's other seat soon.

[Oryxslayer]

[tweet.][tweet.] Ninja'ed

Anyway, it's seeming more and more likely Burr will be out of a job eventually. The question is simply who the clock favors, since he would need to be gone before September for there to be a special election.

I will reopen the NC-special thread if/when he gets closer to oblivion and such a thread is needed.

[Holmes]

[ON Progressive]

Are there any laws on the appointment beyond "it must be of the same party" (in this case, a Republican)?

If there isn't, Cooper should 100% appoint Chris Anglin.

[lfromnj]

Are there any laws on the appointment beyond "it must be of the same party" (in this case, a Republican)?

If there isn't, Cooper should 100% appoint Chris Anglin.

Nope the NC GOP veto overid Cooper and basically let the state GOP committee choose 3 candidates of which the Governor can pick 1. They didn't leave anything behind

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Are there any laws on the appointment beyond "it must be of the same party" (in this case, a Republican)?

If there isn't, Cooper should 100% appoint Chris Anglin.

Nope the NC GOP veto overid Cooper and basically let the state GOP committee choose 3 candidates of which the Governor can pick 1. They didn't leave anything behind

I'm sure NC SC can find some excuse to strike down the law.

[Suburbia]

Sen. Burr should resign.

I used to think he was a normal, generic white Republican not in the mold of Jesse Helms.

[Suburbia]

It's possible that NC1/NC2 and GA1/GA2 all go Democratic.

A new Democratic coalition in the new South.

VA, NC, GA, FL, maybe even SC can go Democratic.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

GA will go to run offs anyways

[lfromnj]

Are there any laws on the appointment beyond "it must be of the same party" (in this case, a Republican)?

If there isn't, Cooper should 100% appoint Chris Anglin.

Nope the NC GOP veto overid Cooper and basically let the state GOP committee choose 3 candidates of which the Governor can pick 1. They didn't leave anything behind

I'm sure NC SC can find some excuse to strike down the law.

Good point, I remember a Wake county court that tried to strike down every law since 2010 because the map was too gerrymandered, now all we got to do is cancel every law since 1898

[ajc0918]

Theory on Twitter is that Trump wants Burr gone so a stooge can be Senate Intel Chair and allow phony investigations. Burr would likely not allow those types of investigations. This sounds somewhat plausible knowing Trump.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

Theory on Twitter is that Trump wants Burr gone so a stooge can be Senate Intel Chair and allow phony investigations. Burr would likely not allow those types of investigations. This sounds somewhat plausible knowing Trump.

I can see Trump and mcconnell arguing now
"But we'll lose the senate"
"I dont care! I want him gone NOW! He won't investigate the witchhunt"

[QAnonKelly]

Wonder if Loeffler’s in hot water too.

[TarHeelDem]

Wonder if Loeffler’s in hot water too.

Almost definitely not. The reason Burr's getting investigated so thoroughly (and eventually indicted, in all likelihood) is because he was a disloyal soldier for the GOP during Senate Intel's investigation into Russia's attack on the 2016 election. It doesn't benefit Trump to investigate or prosecute Loeffler.

[The Mikado]

[tweet.][tweet.] Ninja'ed

Anyway, it's seeming more and more likely Burr will be out of a job eventually. The question is simply who the clock favors, since he would need to be gone before September for there to be a special election.

I will reopen the NC-special thread if/when he gets closer to oblivion and such a thread is needed.

Surely there's no possibility he'd resign after September but before the general. "Senator resigns" is a hell of a negative headline two months out from the election.

IMO he either retires in the next two months or he tries to stick it out until after the general and quietly resigns in November.

[Brittain33]

Wonder if Loeffler’s in hot water too.

Almost definitely not. The reason Burr's getting investigated so thoroughly (and eventually indicted, in all likelihood) is because he was a disloyal soldier for the GOP during Senate Intel's investigation into Russia's attack on the 2016 election. It doesn't benefit Trump to investigate or prosecute Loeffler.

Trump prefers Collins and thought Kemp’s appointment of Loeffler was disloyal.

[QAnonKelly]

Wonder if Loeffler’s in hot water too.

Almost definitely not. The reason Burr's getting investigated so thoroughly (and eventually indicted, in all likelihood) is because he was a disloyal soldier for the GOP during Senate Intel's investigation into Russia's attack on the 2016 election. It doesn't benefit Trump to investigate or prosecute Loeffler.

Her office said she’s turned over info to the SEC.

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Wonder if Loeffler’s in hot water too.

Almost definitely not. The reason Burr's getting investigated so thoroughly (and eventually indicted, in all likelihood) is because he was a disloyal soldier for the GOP during Senate Intel's investigation into Russia's attack on the 2016 election. It doesn't benefit Trump to investigate or prosecute Loeffler.

This is a laughable conspiracy theory.

[LimoLiberal]

Cunningham raised $7.4 million in Quarter 2, a record for North Carolina.

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article244021617.html

Tillis hasn't reported his fundraising yet.

[This user has not been convicted of 34 felonies]

Cunningham raised $7.4 million in Quarter 2, a record for North Carolina.

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article244021617.html

Tillis hasn't reported his fundraising yet.

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