Biden VP news megathread (pg 286 - been selected, announcement could be today)

[Oryxslayer]

https://twitter.com/david_darmofal/status/1285738385445920769?s=20

Is this code for not Warren?

He knows Warren's "socialist" background would hurt his campaign, so another white male putting himself ahead of a woman possibly having a great opportunity. Classic neoliberalism.

I think it's more code for 'pick a AA women who can give me better turnout in the Belt and Charlotte' rather than any ideological opposition - he lacks the position to argue this point.

[NYSforKennedy2024]

https://twitter.com/david_darmofal/status/1285738385445920769?s=20

Is this code for not Warren?

He knows Warren's "socialist" background would hurt his campaign, so another white male putting himself ahead of a woman possibly having a great opportunity. Classic neoliberalism.

I think it's more code for 'pick a AA women who can give me better turnout in the Belt and Charlotte' rather than any ideological opposition - he lacks the position to argue this point.

So, again, using the situation to make it more politically convenient for him, because he knows certain outcomes would expose the kind of Democrat he is.

[Devils30]

https://twitter.com/david_darmofal/status/1285738385445920769?s=20

Is this code for not Warren?

He knows Warren's "socialist" background would hurt his campaign, so another white male putting himself ahead of a woman possibly having a great opportunity. Classic neoliberalism.

I think it's more code for 'pick a AA women who can give me better turnout in the Belt and Charlotte' rather than any ideological opposition - he lacks the position to argue this point.

Demings is the pick for this. Hard to argue against her helping the most in Florida, NC and GA. An actual southern African-American instead of one from SF (Harris) or DC (Rice).

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

https://twitter.com/david_darmofal/status/1285738385445920769?s=20

Is this code for not Warren?

He knows Warren's "socialist" background would hurt his campaign, so another white male putting himself ahead of a woman possibly having a great opportunity. Classic neoliberalism.

I think it's more code for 'pick a AA women who can give me better turnout in the Belt and Charlotte' rather than any ideological opposition - he lacks the position to argue this point.

Demings is the pick for this. Hard to argue against her helping the most in Florida, NC and GA. An actual southern African-American instead of one from SF (Harris) or DC (Rice).

Well, no one outside Orlando knows who she is. I’m not sure black Southerners will be motivated to turn out merely by a vague geographic proximity.

[gerritcole]

https://twitter.com/david_darmofal/status/1285738385445920769?s=20

Is this code for not Warren?

He knows Warren's "socialist" background would hurt his campaign, so another white male putting himself ahead of a woman possibly having a great opportunity. Classic neoliberalism.

I think it's more code for 'pick a AA women who can give me better turnout in the Belt and Charlotte' rather than any ideological opposition - he lacks the position to argue this point.

Demings is the pick for this. Hard to argue against her helping the most in Florida, NC and GA. An actual southern African-American instead of one from SF (Harris) or DC (Rice).

Regional identity’s effect on voting is negligible, this isn’t 1824 when people never left the family farm and deeply identified with their state

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

https://twitter.com/david_darmofal/status/1285738385445920769?s=20

Is this code for not Warren?

He knows Warren's "socialist" background would hurt his campaign, so another white male putting himself ahead of a woman possibly having a great opportunity. Classic neoliberalism.

>Everything I don't like is neoliberalism and the more I don't like it the neoliberaler it is.

[NYSforKennedy2024]

https://twitter.com/david_darmofal/status/1285738385445920769?s=20

Is this code for not Warren?

He knows Warren's "socialist" background would hurt his campaign, so another white male putting himself ahead of a woman possibly having a great opportunity. Classic neoliberalism.

>Everything I don't like is neoliberalism and the more I don't like it the neoliberaler it is.

Yes.

[Devils30]

https://twitter.com/david_darmofal/status/1285738385445920769?s=20

Is this code for not Warren?

He knows Warren's "socialist" background would hurt his campaign, so another white male putting himself ahead of a woman possibly having a great opportunity. Classic neoliberalism.

I think it's more code for 'pick a AA women who can give me better turnout in the Belt and Charlotte' rather than any ideological opposition - he lacks the position to argue this point.

Demings is the pick for this. Hard to argue against her helping the most in Florida, NC and GA. An actual southern African-American instead of one from SF (Harris) or DC (Rice).

Regional identity’s affect on voting is negligible, this isn’t 1824 when people never left the family farm and deeply identified with their state

No but Demings might appeal to rural blacks in places where turnout dropped post-Obama.

[BidenHarris2020]

https://twitter.com/david_darmofal/status/1285738385445920769?s=20

Is this code for not Warren?

He knows Warren's "socialist" background would hurt his campaign, so another white male putting himself ahead of a woman possibly having a great opportunity. Classic neoliberalism.

I think it's more code for 'pick a AA women who can give me better turnout in the Belt and Charlotte' rather than any ideological opposition - he lacks the position to argue this point.

Demings is the pick for this. Hard to argue against her helping the most in Florida, NC and GA. An actual southern African-American instead of one from SF (Harris) or DC (Rice).

Regional identity’s affect on voting is negligible, this isn’t 1824 when people never left the family farm and deeply identified with their state

No but Demings might appeal to rural blacks in places where turnout dropped post-Obama.

Based on what, exactly? Since you seem to know alot about what "rural blacks" find appealing.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Where tf are all these massive crowds of Demings-lovers who will only turn out for Demings? Her being a major candidate for VP is frankly one of the dumbest things I’ve seen this cycle.

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

We've talked more about Demings today than the mainstream media & Biden campaign have this month.

Also, this thread is really schizophrenic between the "Running mates don't matter, Biden will win regardless of who he picks" take and "Warren/Rice would be horrible picks that'll tank Biden" take

[Mike Thick]

Where tf are all these massive crowds of Demings-lovers who will only turn out for Demings? Her being a major candidate for VP is frankly one of the dumbest things I’ve seen this cycle.

She's also a literal cop who covered up police brutality in the PD she led. Seems like a terrible strategy for appealing to Black voters anywhere in the country, especially at this particular moment in history

[BidenHarris2020]

Funny how the "Kamala is a COP!!!" crew have all but disappeared, when there's a LITERAL former Chief of Police in the mix and she's met with Silence...even praise.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Funny how the "Kamala is a COP!!!" crew have all but disappeared, when there's a LITERAL former Chief of Police in the mix and she's met with Silence...even praise.

Well that’s not really accurate, I’ve been louder about “Demings is a literal cop” than I ever was about Harris. All in all Harris isn’t a bad pick per say. My problem with her is I don’t think her/her team would be loyal like Biden was and would constantly be trying to get a leg-up for 2024. That’s why I’d prefer someone like Bass or Warren who could reasonably step down and allow an open primary next cycle.

[Devils30]

Funny how the "Kamala is a COP!!!" crew have all but disappeared, when there's a LITERAL former Chief of Police in the mix and she's met with Silence...even praise.

Well that’s not really accurate, I’ve been louder about “Demings is a literal cop” than I ever was about Harris. All in all Harris isn’t a bad pick per say. My problem with her is I don’t think her/her team would be loyal like Biden was and would constantly be trying to get a leg-up for 2024. That’s why I’d prefer someone like Bass or Warren who could reasonably step down and allow an open primary next cycle.

You’re nuts if you think Warren would step down.

[BidenHarris2020]

Funny how the "Kamala is a COP!!!" crew have all but disappeared, when there's a LITERAL former Chief of Police in the mix and she's met with Silence...even praise.

Well that’s not really accurate, I’ve been louder about “Demings is a literal cop” than I ever was about Harris. All in all Harris isn’t a bad pick per say. My problem with her is I don’t think her/her team would be loyal like Biden was and would constantly be trying to get a leg-up for 2024. That’s why I’d prefer someone like Bass or Warren who could reasonably step down and allow an open primary next cycle.

The first female vp isnt going to "step down" just so there's an open primary. Bass and Warren are politicians. And politicians love power. PeriodT.

[Orwell]

Funny how the "Kamala is a COP!!!" crew have all but disappeared, when there's a LITERAL former Chief of Police in the mix and she's met with Silence...even praise.

Well that’s not really accurate, I’ve been louder about “Demings is a literal cop” than I ever was about Harris. All in all Harris isn’t a bad pick per say. My problem with her is I don’t think her/her team would be loyal like Biden was and would constantly be trying to get a leg-up for 2024. That’s why I’d prefer someone like Bass or Warren who could reasonably step down and allow an open primary next cycle.

The first female vp isnt going to "step down" just so there's an open primary. Bass and Warren are politicians. And politicians love power. PeriodT.

Kamala has been in elected office longer Warren and the same amount of time as Karen Bass, so you can't claim that Kamala is not a "politician" wanting power

[Mike Thick]

I don’t think his point is that Harris is any less politiciany than the others — just that they would probably do the same thing she will.

I think Harris would be more aggressive, just because she’s wanted the Presidency for a lot longer than Duckworth or Bass have — everything she has done in her career for decades has been laser-focused on moving up in politics and eventually becoming President of the United States. Bass and Duckworth are in a different league entirely in that department. They might try the same stuff, but Harris has succeeded at doing it in California before and I think her 2024 machinations would make Hillary’s 2016 field-clearing look tame

[wbrocks67]

I don’t think his point is that Harris is any less politiciany than the others — just that they would probably do the same thing she will.

I think Harris would be more aggressive, just because she’s wanted the Presidency for a lot longer than Duckworth or Bass have — everything she has done in her career for decades has been laser-focused on moving up in politics and eventually becoming President of the United States. Bass and Duckworth are in a different league entirely in that department. They might try the same stuff, but Harris has succeeded at doing it in California before and I think her 2024 machinations would make Hillary’s 2016 field-clearing look tame

How dare a black woman want to continue to grow in politics and want higher office!

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

Yeah, the Anti Anti-Harris discourse has gotten a lot more insufferable now

[GoTfan]

I don’t think his point is that Harris is any less politiciany than the others — just that they would probably do the same thing she will.

I think Harris would be more aggressive, just because she’s wanted the Presidency for a lot longer than Duckworth or Bass have — everything she has done in her career for decades has been laser-focused on moving up in politics and eventually becoming President of the United States. Bass and Duckworth are in a different league entirely in that department. They might try the same stuff, but Harris has succeeded at doing it in California before and I think her 2024 machinations would make Hillary’s 2016 field-clearing look tame

How dare a black woman want to continue to grow in politics and want higher office!

Congratulations on ignoring the entire comment in favour of a one sentence faux-rebuttal.

[GoTfan]

Funny how the "Kamala is a COP!!!" crew have all but disappeared, when there's a LITERAL former Chief of Police in the mix and she's met with Silence...even praise.

Or maybe you just ignore everyone who has slight misgivings about her?

[wbrocks67]

YouGov

Favorabilities (RV)
Tammy Duckworth: 34/24 (+10)
Stacey Abrams: 35/32 (+3)
Kamala Harris: 42/40 (+2)
Tammy Baldwin: 22/21 (+2)
Elizabeth Warren: 44/43 (+1)
Keisha Lance Bottoms: 25/24 (+1)
Val Demings: 22/21 (+1)
Susan Rice: 31/31 (=)
Karen Bass: 17/18 (-1)
Gretchen Whitmer: 25/28 (-3)
Michelle Lujan Grisham: 17/21 (-4)

Who should be the VP?
Kamala Harris 19%
Elizabeth Warren 19%
Susan Rice 11%
Stacey Abrams 8%
Tammy Duckworth 8%
Everyone else <5%

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/8uw05wqpg2/econTabReport.pdf

[Mr. Morden]

Biden publicly confirms that Whitmer is still in the running:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-says-whitmer-still-in-contention-for-vp-pick/ar-BB171PbC?li=BBnbcA1

"Incredibly and yes," Biden told Wood TV Tuesday when asked how important Michigan is in the presidential race and if Whitmer was still in contention for the vice presidential nomination.

[Mike Thick]

I don’t think his point is that Harris is any less politiciany than the others — just that they would probably do the same thing she will.

I think Harris would be more aggressive, just because she’s wanted the Presidency for a lot longer than Duckworth or Bass have — everything she has done in her career for decades has been laser-focused on moving up in politics and eventually becoming President of the United States. Bass and Duckworth are in a different league entirely in that department. They might try the same stuff, but Harris has succeeded at doing it in California before and I think her 2024 machinations would make Hillary’s 2016 field-clearing look tame

How dare a black woman want to continue to grow in politics and want higher office!

No, this is exactly why I want Biden to pick her

Almost all of the anti-Harris sentiment is really anti-black sexism dressed up as genuine criticism and I want her to f***ing bulldoze every last one of her opponents