Biden VP news megathread (pg 286 - been selected, announcement could be today)

[DisneyDem]

The article from this morning reminded me that there’s no good reason Carol Mosley Braun is not  on the shortlist

[Heebie Jeebie]

The article from this morning reminded me that there’s no good reason Carol Mosley Braun is not  on the shortlist

A 72-year-old former Senator who couldn't beat Rahm Emanuel in a Chicago mayor's race (she got 9%!)?  She doesn't exactly sound like winning choice.

[wbrocks67]

Harris' messaging on criminal justice and policing reforms this morning has solidified herself as VP, IMO.

Yeah, despite criticisms of her past - I think she's clearly trying very hard, and with good results - to make up for any of that with what she's doing now and how she's trying to push progress forward in 2020

[Roll Roons]

The article from this morning reminded me that there’s no good reason Carol Mosley Braun is not  on the shortlist

A 72-year-old former Senator who couldn't beat Rahm Emanuel in a Chicago mayor's race (she got 9%!)?  She doesn't exactly sound like winning choice.

Who is also a race-baiter, last held office in 1998 and lost her Senate seat because of corruption allegations.

[YE]

I doubt these names would be out there if Biden was truly happy with Harris as an option.

I’m hoping you are right but I’m basically resigned to Harris at this point.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Harris' messaging on criminal justice and policing reforms this morning has solidified herself as VP, IMO.

Yeah, despite criticisms of her past - I think she's clearly trying very hard, and with good results - to make up for any of that with what she's doing now and how she's trying to push progress forward in 2020

That’s the thing- there’s nothing to make up for. She was progressive on CJ her whole career. The smears were disingenuous lies peddled by Bernie supporters who wanted to handicap her candidacy. Now that folks don’t have to compete with her in the primary they’re admitting the truth. Shaun King and Laura Bazelon are two of the biggest offenders and they’ve even backtracked on the Kamala hatred.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Harris' messaging on criminal justice and policing reforms this morning has solidified herself as VP, IMO.

Yeah, despite criticisms of her past - I think she's clearly trying very hard, and with good results - to make up for any of that with what she's doing now and how she's trying to push progress forward in 2020

That’s the thing- there’s nothing to make up for. She was progressive on CJ her whole career. The smears were disingenuous lies peddled by Bernie supporters who wanted to handicap her candidacy. Now that folks don’t have to compete with her in the primary they’re admitting the truth. Shaun King and Laura Bazelon are two of the biggest offenders and they’ve even backtracked on the Kamala hatred.

[DisneyDem]

I doubt these names would be out there if Biden was truly happy with Harris as an option.

I’m hoping you are right but I’m basically resigned to Harris at this point.

I just have to believe that Joe knows better. If the vet gets even a very very very very very very very small fraction of her record, she is done. Apart from the back on track program, open justice and the Isaac Espinoza case, her record is terrible. Defending wrongful convictions, refusing to investigate police shootings, escalating civil forfeiture at a time when the Obama administration was scaling it back, crime lab scandal that Joe Biden actually brought up in debate, refusing to stand her ground on the death penalty even though she could’ve use the same strategy she use for gay marriage, refusing to investigate catholic sexual abuse etc. the list goes on forever, and she face scrutiny on virtually none of it during the campaign. I’m so glad she can school Megan McCain, but what was she doing when she was on the forefront of these issues? It’s easy to say the right things from a safe Senate seat, it’s harder to do it when   You’re actually in charge. And she did not. This is not  Bernie/Tulsi Twitter hyperbole. This is her record

[Rookie Yinzer]

I doubt these names would be out there if Biden was truly happy with Harris as an option.

I’m hoping you are right but I’m basically resigned to Harris at this point.

I just have to believe that Joe knows better. If the vet gets even a very very very very very very very small fraction of her record, she is done. Apart from the back on track program, open justice and the Isaac Espinoza case, her record is terrible. Defending wrongful convictions, refusing to investigate police shootings, escalating civil forfeiture at a time when the Obama administration was scaling it back, crime lab scandal that Joe Biden actually brought up in debate, refusing to stand her ground on the death penalty even though she could’ve use the same strategy she use for gay marriage, refusing to investigate catholic sexual abuse etc. the list goes on forever, and she face scrutiny on virtually none of it during the campaign. I’m so glad she can school Megan McCain, but what was she doing when she was on the forefront of these issues? It’s easy to say the right things from a safe Senate seat, it’s harder to do it when   You’re actually in charge. And she did not. This is not  Bernie/Tulsi Twitter hyperbole. This is her record

Half of this didn’t happen and quite a bit of this had nothing to do with her.

[OneJ]

https://twitter.com/schwartzbCNBC/status/1270053624677367808

[DisneyDem]

I doubt these names would be out there if Biden was truly happy with Harris as an option.

I’m hoping you are right but I’m basically resigned to Harris at this point.

I just have to believe that Joe knows better. If the vet gets even a very very very very very very very small fraction of her record, she is done. Apart from the back on track program, open justice and the Isaac Espinoza case, her record is terrible. Defending wrongful convictions, refusing to investigate police shootings, escalating civil forfeiture at a time when the Obama administration was scaling it back, crime lab scandal that Joe Biden actually brought up in debate, refusing to stand her ground on the death penalty even though she could’ve use the same strategy she use for gay marriage, refusing to investigate catholic sexual abuse etc. the list goes on forever, and she face scrutiny on virtually none of it during the campaign. I’m so glad she can school Megan McCain, but what was she doing when she was on the forefront of these issues? It’s easy to say the right things from a safe Senate seat, it’s harder to do it when   You’re actually in charge. And she did not. This is not  Bernie/Tulsi Twitter hyperbole. This is her record

Half of this didn’t happen and quite a bit of this had nothing to do with her.
All right, take me through it bit by bit then

[Landslide Lyndon]

Charlie Crist endorses Demings for VP.

https://twitter.com/CharlieCrist/status/1270045430609477638

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Politico says Bottoms is being vetted.  When asked about it, she “deferred to the Biden campaign on questions about her prospects as a Biden running mate”:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/08/biden-veep-search-304854

Bottoms is being vetted as a Biden running mate, two sources with knowledge of the discussions confirm to POLITICO. Demings, a former Orlando police chief, has previously confirmed she’s being vetted.
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In an interview, Bottoms deferred to the Biden campaign on questions about her prospects as a Biden running mate.

“I can tell you that obviously like so many mayors and governors across this country, my complete focus has been on our streets the last few days,” Bottoms said.

That article also notes that the team’s thinking on having (needing?) a black VP has “evolved” over the past two weeks.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Abrams would bring a shake up to the status quo more so than Harris, due to fact Harris has been a SF liberal not a Maxine Waters liberal. We have had enough Valerie Jarretts and Susan Rice in Dem WH. Harris will be another Susan Rice

[Heebie Jeebie]

Abrams would bring a shake up to the status quo more so than Harris, due to fact Harris has been a SF liberal not a Maxine Waters liberal. We have had enough Valerie Jarretts and Susan Rice in Dem WH. Harris will be another Susan Rice

Harris, like Biden, is an institutionalist, and she'll go where the party goes.

[DisneyDem]

Any particular reason why Karen bass isn’t being mentioned? She’s a favorite of Clybourn and she is the leader of police reform in the house. She’s also about the right age. What gives?

[Hammy]

Charlie Crist endorses Demings for VP.

https://twitter.com/CharlieCrist/status/1270045430609477638

Crist is opportunistic garbage and any endorsement of his just means Biden should absolutely not pick them.

[Progressive Pessimist]

I doubt these names would be out there if Biden was truly happy with Harris as an option.

Nah, he's probably just keeping his options open. He has plenty of time to pick a running mate, so why not vet as many people as possible? Maybe the campaign will come across something they weren't expecting.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Any particular reason why Karen bass isn’t being mentioned? She’s a favorite of Clybourn and she is the leader of police reform in the house. She’s also about the right age. What gives?

She doesn't want to be VP and she's just been a standard House Representative in a safe district.

[NewYorkExpress]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/08/biden-veep-search-304854

Wide-scale protests that have exposed deep racial tensions across the nation in the last two weeks are reshaping the contours of Joe Biden’s search for a vice presidential pick, sharpening the focus on an African American woman as his running mate and elevating the prospects of several candidates once viewed as longshots.

The campaign sees the outpouring of anger and emotion in the wake of George Floyd’s death as a watershed moment that has made the issue of a black running mate a top consideration, two sources familiar with the internal discussions say.


In the last week alone, two prospects who were initially not considered among the top tier contenders have suddenly burst into contention: Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms and Florida Rep. Val Demings.

[walleye26]

^I would think Demings over KLB because Florida is closer than Georgia.

[Rookie Yinzer]

^I would think Demings over KLB because Florida is closer than Georgia.

They’re both toss-up states. Also KLB has strong name ID in the Atlanta metro as the executive of the state’s capitol and most visible city. Demings is some random Congresswoman.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

We can now all agree that Warren isnt gonna be picked

[Woody]

^I would think Demings over KLB because Florida is closer than Georgia.

They’re both toss-up states. Also KLB has strong name ID in the Atlanta metro as the executive of the state’s capitol and most visible city. Demings is some random Congresswoman.

She has only been mayor for 2 years. She would look like a ladder climber, and really not into her job, just like Whitmer.

[Heebie Jeebie]

We can now all agree that Warren isnt gonna be picked

I disagree. There's no reason to think that Warren isn't still in the running.  What made her appealing two weeks ago still makes her appealing today.  Or do we really think Biden will make such a consequential decision based solely on today's New York Time's front page?