Biden VP news megathread (pg 286 - been selected, announcement could be today)

[pppolitics]

Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?

KLB is from Georgia, a swing state and supposedly she can help Biden win Georgia. Muriel Bowser is the mayor of DC, which is the most Democratic city in the country. Also, DC is not a state and not apart of any state.

It looks bad to pick VP purely for identity politics purpose.

Mike Pence was picked to appease Evangelicals, is that not "identity politics"?

Republicans don't care because everything about Trump is 1000x worse.

That wasn't the point. The point is y'all ignore everything designed to cater to white voters but the moment any other group is considered in a VP choice it's identity politics. People all in this thread throwing dog whistles about why it needs to be Amy or Gretchen and that's just fine but someone whispers *pick a Black woman* and it's "shut up Blacks already got their choice".

I didn't say, don't pick a black woman.

I said, don't pick a black woman just for the sake of picking a black woman.

Pick someone who adds something to the ticket (i.e. Val Damings)

What does Val Demings "add"?

Val Demings was chief of police.

She has an inside into systematic racism in the police force.

You know, the thing that black people care about.

[Orwell]

Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?

KLB is from Georgia, a swing state and supposedly she can help Biden win Georgia. Muriel Bowser is the mayor of DC, which is the most Democratic city in the country. Also, DC is not a state and not apart of any state.

It looks bad to pick VP purely for identity politics purpose.

Mike Pence was picked to appease Evangelicals, is that not "identity politics"?

Republicans don't care because everything about Trump is 1000x worse.

That wasn't the point. The point is y'all ignore everything designed to cater to white voters but the moment any other group is considered in a VP choice it's identity politics. People all in this thread throwing dog whistles about why it needs to be Amy or Gretchen and that's just fine but someone whispers *pick a Black woman* and it's "shut up Blacks already got their choice".

I didn't say, don't pick a black woman.

I said, don't pick a black woman just for the sake of picking a black woman.

Pick someone who adds something to the ticket (i.e. Val Damings)

What does Val Demings "add"?

Val Demings was chief of police.

She's African American, from a key region of THE BIGGEST swing state, she's an outsider, she is not terrible but Duck is my first choice Demings is probably #3 behind Duck and Harris.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?

KLB is from Georgia, a swing state and supposedly she can help Biden win Georgia. Muriel Bowser is the mayor of DC, which is the most Democratic city in the country. Also, DC is not a state and not apart of any state.

It looks bad to pick VP purely for identity politics purpose.

Mike Pence was picked to appease Evangelicals, is that not "identity politics"?

Republicans don't care because everything about Trump is 1000x worse.

That wasn't the point. The point is y'all ignore everything designed to cater to white voters but the moment any other group is considered in a VP choice it's identity politics. People all in this thread throwing dog whistles about why it needs to be Amy or Gretchen and that's just fine but someone whispers *pick a Black woman* and it's "shut up Blacks already got their choice".

I didn't say, don't pick a black woman.

I said, don't pick a black woman just for the sake of picking a black woman.

Pick someone who adds something to the ticket (i.e. Val Damings)

What does Val Demings "add"?

Val Demings was chief of police.

She has an inside into systematic racism in the police force.

You know, the thing that black people care about.

Well, I'm Black lol.

Anyways, none of that really "adds" anything to the ticket.

[pppolitics]

Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?

KLB is from Georgia, a swing state and supposedly she can help Biden win Georgia. Muriel Bowser is the mayor of DC, which is the most Democratic city in the country. Also, DC is not a state and not apart of any state.

It looks bad to pick VP purely for identity politics purpose.

Mike Pence was picked to appease Evangelicals, is that not "identity politics"?

Republicans don't care because everything about Trump is 1000x worse.

That wasn't the point. The point is y'all ignore everything designed to cater to white voters but the moment any other group is considered in a VP choice it's identity politics. People all in this thread throwing dog whistles about why it needs to be Amy or Gretchen and that's just fine but someone whispers *pick a Black woman* and it's "shut up Blacks already got their choice".

I didn't say, don't pick a black woman.

I said, don't pick a black woman just for the sake of picking a black woman.

Pick someone who adds something to the ticket (i.e. Val Damings)

What does Val Demings "add"?

Val Demings was chief of police.

She has an inside into systematic racism in the police force.

You know, the thing that black people care about.

Well, I'm Black lol.

Anyways, none of that really "adds" anything to the ticket.

Okay

I meant, "that a lot of black people care about"

[OneJ]

Also, by that argument Biden is already using identity politics to select his VP: by committing to select a woman. The whole identity politics term is often misused and abused and I think it’s best people should refrain from using it too often.

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Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?

KLB is from Georgia, a swing state and supposedly she can help Biden win Georgia. Muriel Bowser is the mayor of DC, which is the most Democratic city in the country. Also, DC is not a state and not apart of any state.

It looks bad to pick VP purely for identity politics purpose.

Mike Pence was picked to appease Evangelicals, is that not "identity politics"?

Republicans don't care because everything about Trump is 1000x worse.

That wasn't the point. The point is y'all ignore everything designed to cater to white voters but the moment any other group is considered in a VP choice it's identity politics. People all in this thread throwing dog whistles about why it needs to be Amy or Gretchen and that's just fine but someone whispers *pick a Black woman* and it's "shut up Blacks already got their choice".

I didn't say, don't pick a black woman.

I said, don't pick a black woman just for the sake of picking a black woman.

Pick someone who adds something to the ticket (i.e. Val Damings)

What does Val Demings "add"?

Val Demings was chief of police.

She has an inside into systematic racism in the police force.

You know, the thing that black people care about.

Well, I'm Black lol.

Anyways, none of that really "adds" anything to the ticket.

Okay

I meant, "that a lot of black people care about"

I certainly care about criminal justice reform, police reform and combatting systemic racism. However, I just don't believe that Val Demings adds much. Just my opinion.

[pppolitics]

Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?

KLB is from Georgia, a swing state and supposedly she can help Biden win Georgia. Muriel Bowser is the mayor of DC, which is the most Democratic city in the country. Also, DC is not a state and not apart of any state.

It looks bad to pick VP purely for identity politics purpose.

Mike Pence was picked to appease Evangelicals, is that not "identity politics"?

Republicans don't care because everything about Trump is 1000x worse.

That wasn't the point. The point is y'all ignore everything designed to cater to white voters but the moment any other group is considered in a VP choice it's identity politics. People all in this thread throwing dog whistles about why it needs to be Amy or Gretchen and that's just fine but someone whispers *pick a Black woman* and it's "shut up Blacks already got their choice".

I didn't say, don't pick a black woman.

I said, don't pick a black woman just for the sake of picking a black woman.

Pick someone who adds something to the ticket (i.e. Val Damings)

What does Val Demings "add"?

Val Demings was chief of police.

She has an inside into systematic racism in the police force.

You know, the thing that black people care about.

Well, I'm Black lol.

Anyways, none of that really "adds" anything to the ticket.

Okay

I meant, "that a lot of black people care about"

I certainly care about criminal justice reform, police reform and combatting systemic racism. However, I just don't believe that Val Demings adds much. Just my opinion.

Who would understand the system better than a former police chief?

[Blue3]

Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?

KLB is from Georgia, a swing state and supposedly she can help Biden win Georgia. Muriel Bowser is the mayor of DC, which is the most Democratic city in the country. Also, DC is not a state and not apart of any state.

It looks bad to pick VP purely for identity politics purpose.

Mike Pence was picked to appease Evangelicals, is that not "identity politics"?

Republicans don't care because everything about Trump is 1000x worse.

That wasn't the point. The point is y'all ignore everything designed to cater to white voters but the moment any other group is considered in a VP choice it's identity politics. People all in this thread throwing dog whistles about why it needs to be Amy or Gretchen and that's just fine but someone whispers *pick a Black woman* and it's "shut up Blacks already got their choice".

I didn't say, don't pick a black woman.

I said, don't pick a black woman just for the sake of picking a black woman.

Pick someone who adds something to the ticket (i.e. Val Damings)

What does Val Demings "add"?

Val Demings was chief of police.

She has an inside into systematic racism in the police force.

You know, the thing that black people care about.

Well, I'm Black lol.

Anyways, none of that really "adds" anything to the ticket.

Okay

I meant, "that a lot of black people care about"

You're in expert on the black community now?

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Harris has definitely grown on me more. I’d much rather her than a literal police Chief on the ticket. Though Warren is still by far a better pick than both, I’d be satisfied though a bit disappointed with Biden-Harris

[pppolitics]

Question - I don’t think either is a great choice, but why does Bottoms keep getting mentioned but not Bowser?

KLB is from Georgia, a swing state and supposedly she can help Biden win Georgia. Muriel Bowser is the mayor of DC, which is the most Democratic city in the country. Also, DC is not a state and not apart of any state.

It looks bad to pick VP purely for identity politics purpose.

Mike Pence was picked to appease Evangelicals, is that not "identity politics"?

Republicans don't care because everything about Trump is 1000x worse.

That wasn't the point. The point is y'all ignore everything designed to cater to white voters but the moment any other group is considered in a VP choice it's identity politics. People all in this thread throwing dog whistles about why it needs to be Amy or Gretchen and that's just fine but someone whispers *pick a Black woman* and it's "shut up Blacks already got their choice".

I didn't say, don't pick a black woman.

I said, don't pick a black woman just for the sake of picking a black woman.

Pick someone who adds something to the ticket (i.e. Val Damings)

What does Val Demings "add"?

Val Demings was chief of police.

She has an inside into systematic racism in the police force.

You know, the thing that black people care about.

Well, I'm Black lol.

Anyways, none of that really "adds" anything to the ticket.

Okay

I meant, "that a lot of black people care about"

You're in expert on the black community now?

No.

I just happened to read these things called the news.

You should try it sometimes.

[Senator Spark]

If he picks Warren, Demings, or Klob he's done unfortunately. If he picks Harris he might have a slight chance.

[Bidenworth2020]

If he picks Warren, Demings, or Klob he's done unfortunately. If he picks Harris he might have a slight chance.

I thought you didn't support him lol

[Senator Spark]

If he picks Warren, Demings, or Klob he's done unfortunately. If he picks Harris he might have a slight chance.

I thought you didn't support him lol

I don't. Just want this race to be remotely competitive.

[Bidenworth2020]

If he picks Warren, Demings, or Klob he's done unfortunately. If he picks Harris he might have a slight chance.

I thought you didn't support him lol

I don't. Just want this race to be remotely competitive.

Trump down in Texas according to his own internals=Lock for re-election ig

[Senator Spark]

If he picks Warren, Demings, or Klob he's done unfortunately. If he picks Harris he might have a slight chance.

I thought you didn't support him lol

I don't. Just want this race to be remotely competitive.

Trump down in Texas according to his own internals=Lock for re-election ig

Perhaps you do not examine state trends.

[Bidenworth2020]

If he picks Warren, Demings, or Klob he's done unfortunately. If he picks Harris he might have a slight chance.

I thought you didn't support him lol

I don't. Just want this race to be remotely competitive.

Trump down in Texas according to his own internals=Lock for re-election ig

Perhaps you do not examine state trends.

lol what, if Trump is down in Texas he is done

[Beet]

He needs to pick Warren if he wants to win. Economic populism is going to be a big factor, and a lot of people support Trump solely because he's seen as a working class champion, although arguably that is dubious. Another thing to consider is that whoever he picks may be the party's standard bearer in the 2020s if he wins. If he picks an opportunistic careerist like Harris the Democrats will double down on being the party of the upper middle class which is really bad. He needs a progressive and Warren is the most likely progressive pick.

[Devils30]

Umm look at Warren's coalition in the primary. Her support wasn't upper middle class, it was literally the Ivy elite in Brookline, Cambridge, Arlington along with that in DC, Portland after she dropped out.

Demings background being from a working class family will play much better than Harris' upbringing.

[Mr. Morden]

Politico says Bottoms is being vetted.  When asked about it, she “deferred to the Biden campaign on questions about her prospects as a Biden running mate”:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/08/biden-veep-search-304854

Bottoms is being vetted as a Biden running mate, two sources with knowledge of the discussions confirm to POLITICO. Demings, a former Orlando police chief, has previously confirmed she’s being vetted.
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In an interview, Bottoms deferred to the Biden campaign on questions about her prospects as a Biden running mate.

“I can tell you that obviously like so many mayors and governors across this country, my complete focus has been on our streets the last few days,” Bottoms said.

[Devils30]

I doubt these names would be out there if Biden was truly happy with Harris as an option.

[wbrocks67]

I doubt these names would be out there if Biden was truly happy with Harris as an option.

This is a weird take? You really think the VP buzz would just be silent in the 2 months leading up to the pick? That wouldn't be the case even if Harris had this all wrapped up already

[Rookie Yinzer]

I doubt these names would be out there if Biden was truly happy with Harris as an option.

This is a weird take? You really think the VP buzz would just be silent in the 2 months leading up to the pick? That wouldn't be the case even if Harris had this all wrapped up already

He or she is anti-Harris and will find any sliver of info to confirm their biases.

[libertpaulian]

Harris' messaging on criminal justice and policing reforms this morning has solidified herself as VP, IMO.

[Beet]

There still a while to go. I don't think a decision will be made until all the candidates are vetted. It won't necessarily go to Harris just because she campaigns the loudest for the spot.

[Heebie Jeebie]

https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1269983636314632193

I was a strong backer of Warren during the primary and was very disappointed she didn't win, but I think she would be the wrong choice for Biden's running mate.  Frankly, she's too old.  I hope Biden picks Harris.