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« on: November 20, 2018, 01:59:29 PM »

Huh
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2018, 02:02:41 PM »

In a 50-50 election, I'd say it votes D. I do believe it swings back.
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2018, 02:41:34 PM »

Trump 47-41
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2018, 02:43:55 PM »

Pure tossup, great chance of being the tipping point again.
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2018, 02:50:14 PM »


Get real. Not even McCain got as low as 41 in the massive 2008 wave.
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2018, 02:50:43 PM »

Pure tossup, great chance of being the tipping point again.
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2018, 02:51:32 PM »


Get real. Not even McCain got as low as 41 in the massive 2008 wave.

Dole got 39%
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2018, 02:54:43 PM »


That was with a strong third party taking votes from him. There will be no strong left wing third party dragging down our nominee to 41% in Wisconsin in 2020.
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2018, 02:55:12 PM »


That was with a strong third party taking votes from him. There will be no strong left wing third party dragging down our nominee to 41% in Wisconsin in 2020.

No, but John Kasich will.
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2018, 02:56:45 PM »


That was with a strong third party taking votes from him. There will be no strong left wing third party dragging down our nominee to 41% in Wisconsin in 2020.

No, but John Kasich will.

Kasich is not running a third party bid, and he would take virtually nothing from Dems because Kasich is a right winger. Dems will be united to take down Trump anyway.
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2018, 02:58:14 PM »


That was with a strong third party taking votes from him. There will be no strong left wing third party dragging down our nominee to 41% in Wisconsin in 2020.

No, but John Kasich will.

Kasich is not running a third party bid, and he would take virtually nothing from Dems because Kasich is a right winger. Dems will be united to take down Trump anyway.

He will and virtually 0 Trump voters will go to him. The left leaning independents that will get put off by whoever the communist or just bad nominee is will go heavy for Kasich.
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2018, 02:59:50 PM »


That was with a strong third party taking votes from him. There will be no strong left wing third party dragging down our nominee to 41% in Wisconsin in 2020.

No, but John Kasich will.

Kasich is not running a third party bid, and he would take virtually nothing from Dems because Kasich is a right winger. Dems will be united to take down Trump anyway.

He will and virtually 0 Trump voters will go to him. The left leaning independents that will get put off by whoever the communist or just bad nominee is will go heavy for Kasich.

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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2018, 03:01:35 PM »


That was with a strong third party taking votes from him. There will be no strong left wing third party dragging down our nominee to 41% in Wisconsin in 2020.

No, but John Kasich will.

Kasich is not running a third party bid, and he would take virtually nothing from Dems because Kasich is a right winger. Dems will be united to take down Trump anyway.

He will and virtually 0 Trump voters will go to him. The left leaning independents that will get put off by whoever the communist or just bad nominee is will go heavy for Kasich.

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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2018, 03:01:54 PM »

Titanium D along with, VA, NV, CO, MI, Pa, NM and NH
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2018, 03:03:11 PM »


That was with a strong third party taking votes from him. There will be no strong left wing third party dragging down our nominee to 41% in Wisconsin in 2020.

No, but John Kasich will.

Kasich is not running a third party bid, and he would take virtually nothing from Dems because Kasich is a right winger. Dems will be united to take down Trump anyway.

He will and virtually 0 Trump voters will go to him. The left leaning independents that will get put off by whoever the communist or just bad nominee is will go heavy for Kasich.

LOL.

I will give you that very few Rs would go to him, but very few Ds would. Also, there is zero chance of Democrats nominating a commie, and even a Weak Candidate(TM) would not cause left leaning voters to go to an anti-abortion and anti-union “moderate” who is actually very conservative.
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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2018, 03:13:53 PM »


That was with a strong third party taking votes from him. There will be no strong left wing third party dragging down our nominee to 41% in Wisconsin in 2020.

No, but John Kasich will.

Kasich is not running a third party bid, and he would take virtually nothing from Dems because Kasich is a right winger. Dems will be united to take down Trump anyway.

He will and virtually 0 Trump voters will go to him. The left leaning independents that will get put off by whoever the communist or just bad nominee is will go heavy for Kasich.

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You're not discussing; you're arguing using flawed comparisons as some sort of evidence (Dole) and asserting distant hypotheticals as facts (Kasich third party run taking votes from Democrats), all the while you call some unnamed Democrat presidential candidate a "communist."

It's a waste of time to even try to engage with you seriously and far from anything that could be described as either "thoughtful" or a "conversation."
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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2018, 03:19:08 PM »

The GOP base at this point has become a deplorable hive mind of Trump cultists. Kasich himself is far more popular with Ohio Democrats than he is with Ohio Republicans because he spoke against their dear leader. Kasich wouldnt siphon off votes from Trump except in Ohio (a Trump+8 state anyways) and would likely take more votes from Dems if anything.
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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2018, 03:29:32 PM »

The GOP base at this point has become a deplorable hive mind of Trump cultists. Kasich himself is far more popular with Ohio Democrats than he is with Ohio Republicans because he spoke against their dear leader. Kasich wouldnt siphon off votes from Trump except in Ohio (a Trump+8 state anyways) and would likely take more votes from Dems if anything.

Sure, but I doubt he gets any significant number of Ds either. It would require third parties to take 10% of Hillary voters for them to drag Hillary down to 41% in Wisconsin. That would mean way more third party vote than 2016.

We are very likely to see significantly less third party vote, not significantly more. Especially since 2016 was an open race with two candidates that had record low favourables.
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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2018, 07:28:01 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2018, 07:32:34 PM »

Toss up. They just elected a Democratic Governor, but their Senate and state governments are still mixed or leaning GOP. 2016 was also a complete toss up so I'm unsure.
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« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2018, 08:44:03 PM »
« Edited: November 20, 2018, 09:53:45 PM by Arch »

Toss up. They just elected a Democratic Governor, but their Senate and state governments are still mixed or leaning GOP. 2016 was also a complete toss up so I'm unsure.

I mean, the legislature received 53% D votes in 2018, but it is still largely R, which speaks to how gerrymandered this state is.
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« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2018, 08:51:54 PM »

Tilt R
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« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2018, 08:58:19 PM »

Lean D,but it depends on The Who the Democratic candidate
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« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2018, 10:02:51 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2018, 10:05:42 PM »

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