The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread, Part 3

[gottsu]

OK, guys, get ready for a huge update on Democratic primaries news.

As far as I know:

- At present, only Kamala, Gillibrand and Booker candidatures matter. Bernie and Warren doesn't count as they are both being engaged in a brawl (of their own fault) with DNC;

- Although doesn't leading in the polls, Booker seems to be running the most measured and deliberative campaign (electability will be the major issue in 2020, no matter what progressives would say), he's currently doing some intensive lobbying in East Coast big capital areas (Boston, NYC, Philly, DC);

- Kamala is in cahoots with Kirsten. They both formed loose-fitting campaign alliance as they are both women, both in similar age, both from coasts (Kamala from West, Gillibrand from East), but Gillibrand's campaign have no real strategy or something in a long run, she's said be to going around Harris political influence anyway;

- Bernie and Warren are publicly seen as a fellow partisan compatriots, but behind the scenes they are harshly chasing each other, and it seems that Bernie winning this race as of now;

- Biden still and still and still and still and still procrastinates. The thing is that he receives different feedback when talking to grassroots and to Democratic strategists and staffers;

- Kirmala (portmanteau of Kamala and Kirsten) openly attacked Bernie and Warren and their progressive minions for doing what they are doing within the frames of DNC, they both even wanted to bring this case to FBI or to block DNC's support for these two, but DNC boss, Perez ruled out these decisions, because these problems within Democrats could as well get to the circles close to GOP

[Not Me, Us]

OK, guys, get ready for a huge update on Democratic primaries news:

- At present, only Kamala, Gillibrand and Booker candidatures matter. Bernie and Warren doesn't count as they are both being engaged in a brawl (of their own fault) with DNC;

- Although doesn't leading in the polls, Booker seems to be running the most measured and deliberative campaign (electability will be the major issue in 2020, no matter what progressives would say), he's currently doing some intensive lobbying in East Coast big capital areas (Boston, NYC, Philly, DC);

- Kamala is in cahoots with Kirsten. They both formed loose-fitting campaign alliance as they are both women, both in similar age, both from coasts (Kamala from West, Gillibrand from East), but Gillibrand's campaign have no real strategy or something in a long run, she's said be to going around Harris political influence anyway;

- Bernie and Warren are publicly seen as a fellow partisan compatriots, but behind the scenes they are harshly chasing each other, and it seems that Bernie winning this race as of now;

- Biden still and still and still and still and still procrastinates. The thing is that he receives different feedback when talking to grassroots and to Democratic strategists and staffers;

- Kirmala (portmanteau of Kamala and Kirsten) openly attacked Bernie and Warren and their progressive minions for doing what they are doing within the frames of DNC, they both even wanted to bring this case to FBI or to block DNC's support for these two, but DNC boss, Perez ruled out these decisions, because these problems within Democrats could as well get to the circles close to GOP

What exactly are Bernie and Warren doing that is pissing off the DNC so much?

[PaperKooper]

OK, guys, get ready for a huge update on Democratic primaries news:

- At present, only Kamala, Gillibrand and Booker candidatures matter. Bernie and Warren doesn't count as they are both being engaged in a brawl (of their own fault) with DNC;

- Although doesn't leading in the polls, Booker seems to be running the most measured and deliberative campaign (electability will be the major issue in 2020, no matter what progressives would say), he's currently doing some intensive lobbying in East Coast big capital areas (Boston, NYC, Philly, DC);

- Kamala is in cahoots with Kirsten. They both formed loose-fitting campaign alliance as they are both women, both in similar age, both from coasts (Kamala from West, Gillibrand from East), but Gillibrand's campaign have no real strategy or something in a long run, she's said be to going around Harris political influence anyway;

- Bernie and Warren are publicly seen as a fellow partisan compatriots, but behind the scenes they are harshly chasing each other, and it seems that Bernie winning this race as of now;

- Biden still and still and still and still and still procrastinates. The thing is that he receives different feedback when talking to grassroots and to Democratic strategists and staffers;

- Kirmala (portmanteau of Kamala and Kirsten) openly attacked Bernie and Warren and their progressive minions for doing what they are doing within the frames of DNC, they both even wanted to bring this case to FBI or to block DNC's support for these two, but DNC boss, Perez ruled out these decisions, because these problems within Democrats could as well get to the circles close to GOP

Do your sources still say that Sherrod Brown has a lock on the VP slot?

[gottsu]

OK, guys, get ready for a huge update on Democratic primaries news:

- At present, only Kamala, Gillibrand and Booker candidatures matter. Bernie and Warren doesn't count as they are both being engaged in a brawl (of their own fault) with DNC;

- Although doesn't leading in the polls, Booker seems to be running the most measured and deliberative campaign (electability will be the major issue in 2020, no matter what progressives would say), he's currently doing some intensive lobbying in East Coast big capital areas (Boston, NYC, Philly, DC);

- Kamala is in cahoots with Kirsten. They both formed loose-fitting campaign alliance as they are both women, both in similar age, both from coasts (Kamala from West, Gillibrand from East), but Gillibrand's campaign have no real strategy or something in a long run, she's said be to going around Harris political influence anyway;

- Bernie and Warren are publicly seen as a fellow partisan compatriots, but behind the scenes they are harshly chasing each other, and it seems that Bernie winning this race as of now;

- Biden still and still and still and still and still procrastinates. The thing is that he receives different feedback when talking to grassroots and to Democratic strategists and staffers;

- Kirmala (portmanteau of Kamala and Kirsten) openly attacked Bernie and Warren and their progressive minions for doing what they are doing within the frames of DNC, they both even wanted to bring this case to FBI or to block DNC's support for these two, but DNC boss, Perez ruled out these decisions, because these problems within Democrats could as well get to the circles close to GOP

Do your sources still say that Sherrod Brown has a lock on the VP slot?

Yes, Midwestern running mate is inevitable, as DNC wants to focus especially on Ohio and Pennsylvania, I mean electorally. Please wait until May 1 when Sherrod may announce, or (that's for sure) unveil his "Rust Belt Act" redevelopment program.

What exactly are Bernie and Warren doing that is pissing off the DNC so much?

For instance, their staffs make sugarcoated reports and analyzes they are sending to DNC, to pump (falsely) the grassroots support in Sanders or Warren campaigns, and there was some kind of edit war about it in DNC internal system, that's why Kirmala was so mad about it. They must admit that they have gone too far with that.

[Zaybay]

OK, guys, get ready for a huge update on Democratic primaries news:

- At present, only Kamala, Gillibrand and Booker candidatures matter. Bernie and Warren doesn't count as they are both being engaged in a brawl (of their own fault) with DNC;

- Although doesn't leading in the polls, Booker seems to be running the most measured and deliberative campaign (electability will be the major issue in 2020, no matter what progressives would say), he's currently doing some intensive lobbying in East Coast big capital areas (Boston, NYC, Philly, DC);

- Kamala is in cahoots with Kirsten. They both formed loose-fitting campaign alliance as they are both women, both in similar age, both from coasts (Kamala from West, Gillibrand from East), but Gillibrand's campaign have no real strategy or something in a long run, she's said be to going around Harris political influence anyway;

- Bernie and Warren are publicly seen as a fellow partisan compatriots, but behind the scenes they are harshly chasing each other, and it seems that Bernie winning this race as of now;

- Biden still and still and still and still and still procrastinates. The thing is that he receives different feedback when talking to grassroots and to Democratic strategists and staffers;

- Kirmala (portmanteau of Kamala and Kirsten) openly attacked Bernie and Warren and their progressive minions for doing what they are doing within the frames of DNC, they both even wanted to bring this case to FBI or to block DNC's support for these two, but DNC boss, Perez ruled out these decisions, because these problems within Democrats could as well get to the circles close to GOP

Do your sources still say that Sherrod Brown has a lock on the VP slot?

Yes, Midwestern running mate is inevitable, as DNC wants to focus especially on Ohio and Pennsylvania, I mean electorally. Please wait until May 1 when Sherrod may announce, or (that's for sure) unveil his "Rust Belt Act" redevelopment program.

What exactly are Bernie and Warren doing that is pissing off the DNC so much?

For instance, their staffs make sugarcoated reports and analyzes they are sending to DNC, to pump (falsely) the grassroots support in Sanders or Warren campaigns, and there was some kind of edit war about it in DNC internal system, that's why Kirmala was so mad about it. They must admit that they have gone too far with that.

For some odd reason, I kinda doubt these sources that are giving you rather crucial behind the scenes info that only you have been given and not any other major media establishment.

[gottsu]

Surely there is something in this forum's TOS to justify action against posters who blatantly and repeatedly present invented rumors from their personal "sources" as facts, particularly in a more serious thread like this one?

It should also be something in this forum TOS to justify hurling such trumped-up accusations. If that is such a big burden for you, I will simply stop posting the news I have.

[Mr. Morden]

Tim Ryan, in New Hampshire, says he's "getting close" to making his decision about whether to run for president or not:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ryan-in-nh-as-he-decides-on-2020-run-says-democrats-hostile-business

[Sestak]

Hey, if Ryan and Moulton both run, maybe they’ll split their vote and each only get a quarter-percent if the electorate instead of the half-percent each would otherwise be getting!

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Hey, if Ryan and Moulton both run, maybe they’ll split their vote and each only get a quarter-percent if the electorate instead of the half-percent each would otherwise be getting!

Not sure about that. Ryan will get about 0.6%, three times the support of Moulton, who will probably finish behind Marrianee Williams. But it’s Andrew Yang who will get the last laugh, because he’ll pull a Mike Braun and beat them both.

[Mr. Morden]

NBC's latest on Biden: All indications inside Biden-world indicate that he's leaning towards a run, though not looking forward to the prospect of political attacks on his family, which gives him some hesitation.  Latest moving target for a decision is mid-March, and then (assuming the answer is yes) could take a week a week or two after that before a public announcement, which would mean end of March or beginning of April:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-gets-closer-white-house-bid-serious-concerns-remain-n973861

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[Former Crackhead Mike Lindell]

Does the reasoning behind Biden's forever-dither really come from his son's widow dating his other son? Is that what 'family considerations' is code for? Are there awkward and embarrassing details about that love triangle that would come out in the scrutiny of a campaign?

[PaperKooper]

Does the reasoning behind Biden's forever-dither really come from his son's widow dating his other son? Is that what 'family considerations' is code for? Are there awkward and embarrassing details about that love triangle that would come out in the scrutiny of a campaign?

I doubt it.  Biden publicly acknowledged and approved of it last year (might have been two years).  It's certainly a really strange situation, but it's probably not really connected to Joe. 

[Possiblymaybe]

OK, guys, get ready for a huge update on Democratic primaries news.

As far as I know:

- At present, only Kamala, Gillibrand and Booker candidatures matter. Bernie and Warren doesn't count as they are both being engaged in a brawl (of their own fault) with DNC;

- Although doesn't leading in the polls, Booker seems to be running the most measured and deliberative campaign (electability will be the major issue in 2020, no matter what progressives would say), he's currently doing some intensive lobbying in East Coast big capital areas (Boston, NYC, Philly, DC);

- Kamala is in cahoots with Kirsten. They both formed loose-fitting campaign alliance as they are both women, both in similar age, both from coasts (Kamala from West, Gillibrand from East), but Gillibrand's campaign have no real strategy or something in a long run, she's said be to going around Harris political influence anyway;

- Bernie and Warren are publicly seen as a fellow partisan compatriots, but behind the scenes they are harshly chasing each other, and it seems that Bernie winning this race as of now;

- Biden still and still and still and still and still procrastinates. The thing is that he receives different feedback when talking to grassroots and to Democratic strategists and staffers;

- Kirmala (portmanteau of Kamala and Kirsten) openly attacked Bernie and Warren and their progressive minions for doing what they are doing within the frames of DNC, they both even wanted to bring this case to FBI or to block DNC's support for these two, but DNC boss, Perez ruled out these decisions, because these problems within Democrats could as well get to the circles close to GOP

Some of this seems off. Don’t buy the whole kirmala stuff at all with regards to warren. Warren and Harris are closer than Gillibrand and Harris and has been for years. At Trumps state of the union, they were hugging and chatting with Sherrod. Warren has endorsed Harris and they campaigned for each other repeatedly. They have a long history. 

[JG]

OK, guys, get ready for a huge update on Democratic primaries news.

As far as I know:

- At present, only Kamala, Gillibrand and Booker candidatures matter. Bernie and Warren doesn't count as they are both being engaged in a brawl (of their own fault) with DNC;

- Although doesn't leading in the polls, Booker seems to be running the most measured and deliberative campaign (electability will be the major issue in 2020, no matter what progressives would say), he's currently doing some intensive lobbying in East Coast big capital areas (Boston, NYC, Philly, DC);

- Kamala is in cahoots with Kirsten. They both formed loose-fitting campaign alliance as they are both women, both in similar age, both from coasts (Kamala from West, Gillibrand from East), but Gillibrand's campaign have no real strategy or something in a long run, she's said be to going around Harris political influence anyway;

- Bernie and Warren are publicly seen as a fellow partisan compatriots, but behind the scenes they are harshly chasing each other, and it seems that Bernie winning this race as of now;

- Biden still and still and still and still and still procrastinates. The thing is that he receives different feedback when talking to grassroots and to Democratic strategists and staffers;

- Kirmala (portmanteau of Kamala and Kirsten) openly attacked Bernie and Warren and their progressive minions for doing what they are doing within the frames of DNC, they both even wanted to bring this case to FBI or to block DNC's support for these two, but DNC boss, Perez ruled out these decisions, because these problems within Democrats could as well get to the circles close to GOP

Some of this seems off. Don’t buy the whole kirmala stuff at all with regards to warren. Warren and Harris are closer than Gillibrand and Harris and has been for years. At Trumps state of the union, they were hugging and chatting with Sherrod. Warren has endorsed Harris and they campaigned for each other repeatedly. They have a long history. 

Yes. Gillibrand seems much closer to Booker. They both tweeted each other a message of good luck when the other announced, while Kirsten brought up Harris just when an interviewer asked her about Harris.

[Zaybay]

It also doesnt make sense why the two would be working together, considering Gillibrand has 0-1% in the polls, while Harris is considered one of the frontrunners.

Im also pretty sure that Sanders and Warren do count, and that the reasoning is a load of bull.

Its obviously false information guys

[Mr. Morden]

O'Rourke:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/beto-orourke-says-hes-open-to-being-a-vice-presidential-candidate-in-2020-2019-02-20

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[gerritcole]

Surely there is something in this forum's TOS to justify action against posters who blatantly and repeatedly present invented rumors from their personal "sources" as facts, particularly in a more serious thread like this one?

It should also be something in this forum TOS to justify hurling such trumped-up accusations. If that is such a big burden for you, I will simply stop posting the news I have.

pls stop

[gottsu]

Some of this seems off. Don’t buy the whole kirmala stuff at all with regards to warren. Warren and Harris are closer than Gillibrand and Harris and has been for years. At Trumps state of the union, they were hugging and chatting with Sherrod. Warren has endorsed Harris and they campaigned for each other repeatedly. They have a long history.  

Yes. Gillibrand seems much closer to Booker. They both tweeted each other a message of good luck when the other announced, while Kirsten brought up Harris just when an interviewer asked her about Harris.

It also doesnt make sense why the two would be working together, considering Gillibrand has 0-1% in the polls, while Harris is considered one of the frontrunners.

Im also pretty sure that Sanders and Warren do count, and that the reasoning is a load of bull.

Its obviously false information guys

Guys, if you write such things - you simply doesn't know how real politics works. That's all.

Like I said earlier, I am leaving this forum, because I don't want to be lynched by the likes of yours and end like Anthony Rendon (CA assembly speaker who refused to bring a vote on universal health care bill and was receiving death threats) in 2017.

[henster]

Castro seems to have disappeared, haven't heard anything from his since he announced. I see more people talking about Buttigieg than him right now.

[tosk]

Castro seems to have disappeared, haven't heard anything from his since he announced. I see more people talking about Buttigieg than him right now.

per his social media he was just in Iowa and is planning trips to all fifty states. If y'all are interested the campaign has a spot for you to submit your hometown as a potential site for him to visit while hitting each state.

[Mr. Morden]

Hogan says he expects to travel to New Hampshire in the spring, and goes after the RNC for trying to prevent a competitive primary:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/21/larry-hogan-2020-trump-1179635

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Obama’s political organization is merging with Eric Holder’s National Redistricting Action Fund, but Holder says that this move doesn’t have anything to do with his deliberations about whether to run for president, and that he’s still undecided on said run:

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/430845-obama-political-arm-to-merge-with-holder-run-group

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Inslee allies have created a new Super PAC that’ll presumably back him if he ends up running for prez:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/21/jay-inslee-pac-2020-1178721

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[Mr. Morden]

Btw, I'm also wondering if the Mueller Report is going to end up messing with some of the remaining 2020 Dems' announcement plans.  If it drops / is leaked or whatever next week, then isn't it going to completely consume the political news cycle for a while?  Bloomberg or O'Rourke or anyone else thinking about 2020 announcements might have to think about planning around it.

[This user has not been convicted of 34 felonies]

I see more people talking about Buttigieg than him right now.

I like Castro, but I'm really happy Pete is getting his chance to talk to the nation right now.

[Mr. Morden]

de Blasio will be in Iowa on both Saturday and Sunday this weekend:

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2019/02/21/election-20202-new-york-city-mayor-de-blasio-heads-iowa-amid-2020-speculation-caucus-president/2943317002/

Tim Ryan says he won't run unless he thinks he can win:

http://www.vindy.com/news/2019/feb/22/valley-rep-ryan-faces-long-odds-if-he-de/

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However, he also says that should he run, he'll (at least in the primary phase) file to run for both the presidential race and reelection for his House seat, so that he has a backup plan if the presidency doesn't work out.

[Sherrod Brown Shill]

Tim Ryan says he won't run unless he thinks he can win:

http://www.vindy.com/news/2019/feb/22/valley-rep-ryan-faces-long-odds-if-he-de/

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However, he also says that should he run, he'll (at least in the primary phase) file to run for both the presidential race and reelection for his House seat, so that he has a backup plan if the presidency doesn't work out.

I always kind of imagined Ryan being Sherrod Brown's Joe Kennedy to Elizabeth Warren but it seems not.