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« on: July 22, 2018, 08:14:43 AM »
« edited: July 22, 2018, 09:05:03 AM by Thunder98 »

They 1st visited Wichita, Kansas (KS-4) with 4000 people attended the rally stumping for Democratic candidate James Thompson who was in the surprisingly close special election last year. They also visited Kansas City, Kansas to help campaigning with Democratic Candidate Brent Welder, 2000 people attended that rally.

https://www.kansas.com/latest-news/article215250395.html

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article215166525.html

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/20/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-kansas/index.html
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2018, 09:03:39 AM »

Isn’t Welder the one who carpetbagged to Kansas to run for this seat?
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2018, 09:07:42 AM »

Isn’t Welder the one who carpetbagged to Kansas to run for this seat?

I believe it's Joe McConnell who is the carpetbagger.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article215166525.html
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2018, 09:14:04 AM »

Isn’t Welder the one who carpetbagged to Kansas to run for this seat?

I believe it's Joe McConnell who is the carpetbagger.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article215166525.html

Hmm could have sworn there was something up with Welder that made him suboptimal for non-ideological reasons

I can’t keep track of this primary, probably because it’s so late in the season.
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2018, 09:18:16 AM »

Isn’t Welder the one who carpetbagged to Kansas to run for this seat?

I believe it's Joe McConnell who is the carpetbagger.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article215166525.html

Hmm could have sworn there was something up with Welder that made him suboptimal for non-ideological reasons

I can’t keep track of this primary, probably because it’s so late in the season.

Brent Welder was a DNC delegate from Missouri in 2016. Not from Kansas City either, but a couple hundred miles away from the Kansas border.
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2018, 09:34:50 AM »

Isn’t Welder the one who carpetbagged to Kansas to run for this seat?

I believe it's Joe McConnell who is the carpetbagger.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article215166525.html

Hmm could have sworn there was something up with Welder that made him suboptimal for non-ideological reasons

I can’t keep track of this primary, probably because it’s so late in the season.

Brent Welder was a DNC delegate from Missouri in 2016. Not from Kansas City either, but a couple hundred miles away from the Kansas border.

Hmm so then I was right
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2018, 09:41:50 AM »

Isnt it a little soon for AOC to be out stumping for other candidates. Like, I get her campaigning for Nixon. But maybe she should focus on winning her own district once or twice before she goes off to Kansas.
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2018, 09:48:06 AM »
« Edited: July 22, 2018, 11:00:49 AM by Invisible Obama »

Isnt it a little soon for AOC to be out stumping for other candidates. Like, I get her campaigning for Nixon. But maybe she should focus on winning her own district once or twice before she goes off to Kansas.

It is far too soon to start campaign for others when you aren't even officially in Congress.
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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2018, 10:55:24 AM »

Isnt it a little soon for AOC to be out stumping for other candidates. Like, I get her campaigning for Nixon. But maybe she should focus on winning her own district once or twice before she goes off to Kansas.

She's already an icon among progressives, so having her stump for you is probably a major boon for these candidates, especially Welder who's running in a competitive primary.
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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2018, 11:04:05 AM »

Isnt it a little soon for AOC to be out stumping for other candidates. Like, I get her campaigning for Nixon. But maybe she should focus on winning her own district once or twice before she goes off to Kansas.

It is far too soon to start campaign for others when you aren't even officially in Congress.

To be fair, Obama was campaigning for other Democrats during the summer of 2004, long before he was elected senator.
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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2018, 11:09:36 AM »

Isnt it a little soon for AOC to be out stumping for other candidates. Like, I get her campaigning for Nixon. But maybe she should focus on winning her own district once or twice before she goes off to Kansas.

Candidates are entitled to welcome whoever they want to come stump for them. If it’s AOC you want, you reach out to AOC. And as LL pointed out Obama was out stumping in 2004. It’s not like she’s taking valuable time away from her general election...

That being said, whether supporting a carpetbagger like Welder is AOC’s besr use of her newfound celebrity and platform among progressives is an altogether separate question.
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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2018, 11:49:09 AM »

Translation - socialists with tenuous loyalty to the party they plan to caucus with interfere in party primaries, endangering several house seats.

The Kombucha Party is here. This didn't work out that great for us in 2010.
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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2018, 01:35:47 PM »

Isnt it a little soon for AOC to be out stumping for other candidates. Like, I get her campaigning for Nixon. But maybe she should focus on winning her own district once or twice before she goes off to Kansas.

Candidates are entitled to welcome whoever they want to come stump for them. If it’s AOC you want, you reach out to AOC. And as LL pointed out Obama was out stumping in 2004. It’s not like she’s taking valuable time away from her general election...

That being said, whether supporting a carpetbagger like Welder is AOC’s besr use of her newfound celebrity and platform among progressives is an altogether separate question.

Just feels icky to me but I get your point. Besides, AOC isnt running in my district so its really not my place to be bothered.
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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2018, 02:53:58 PM »

Actually excited to see how this turns out
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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2018, 03:03:13 PM »

Isnt it a little soon for AOC to be out stumping for other candidates. Like, I get her campaigning for Nixon. But maybe she should focus on winning her own district once or twice before she goes off to Kansas.

It is far too soon to start campaign for others when you aren't even officially in Congress.

To be fair, Obama was campaigning for other Democrats during the summer of 2004, long before he was elected senator.

Obama wasn't a political novice who stumbled over policy questions and didn't make videos talking about how big his primary victory was. Just a matter of opinion for me.
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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2018, 03:09:59 PM »

Isnt it a little soon for AOC to be out stumping for other candidates. Like, I get her campaigning for Nixon. But maybe she should focus on winning her own district once or twice before she goes off to Kansas.

It is far too soon to start campaign for others when you aren't even officially in Congress.

To be fair, Obama was campaigning for other Democrats during the summer of 2004, long before he was elected senator.

Obama wasn't a political novice who stumbled over policy questions and didn't make videos talking about how big his primary victory was. Just a matter of opinion for me.

Yeah, I agree that Ocasio-Cortez seems to be an asshole, and campaigning not only out of district but out of state does nothing to change that perception.
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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2018, 03:28:18 PM »

This is probably the period of her maximum influence, and she knows it. Leveraging her newfound fame to support other insurgent and ideologically aligned candidates is just common sense, especially since many of them could really use the influx of money and volunteers that brings. A lot of them are still huge long shots, but there was no chance that Cori Bush, for example, was going to win without AOC's intervention (although she's still a huge underdog imo). Also, if she enters Congress with a few allies that she helped out, that puts her in a better position than entering alone.

The only risk is pissing off incumbents with her support for primary challengers. I'm sure if Lacy Clay or Capuano win they'll have no time for her. But, the mainstream Democratic congresspeople were going to grow to dislike her no matter what if she remains vocal and critical of the party so it's just a question of timing. The risk is far outweighed by the potential rewards here imo.
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« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2018, 03:37:33 PM »

Why would she not use her high profile to help others? Especially when she will need allies in the House to advance her agenda.
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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2018, 03:46:10 PM »

"We're gonna flip this seat red!"
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« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2018, 04:03:50 PM »

Why would she not use her high profile to help others? Especially when she will need allies in the House to advance her agenda.
You didn't see Stacey Abrams bragging about how she crushed Stacey Evans, did you?
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« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2018, 06:06:26 PM »

The Kombucha Party is here. This didn't work out that great for us in 2010.

Yes it did?
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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2018, 06:08:26 PM »


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« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2018, 07:03:46 PM »

Isnt it a little soon for AOC to be out stumping for other candidates. Like, I get her campaigning for Nixon. But maybe she should focus on winning her own district once or twice before she goes off to Kansas.
Lmao

The Kombucha Party is here. This didn't work out that great for us in 2010.
Yes it did?
*Gains 60 seats in the House, wins 24 seats in the Senate, wins 32 governorships, flips the Senate four years later effectively stealing a Supreme Court nominee from the Democrats and elects the most right-wing president in generations in 2016*

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« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2018, 07:04:52 PM »

The KS-03 primary is frighteningly similar to the IA-03 primary. There’s the moderate, establishment candidate with Niemermann in KS-03 and Eddie Mauro in IA-03. There’s the Bernie-endorsed candidate with Pete D’Alessandro in IA-03 and Brent Welder in KS-03.

There’s the Emily’s List endorsed initial frontrunner who dropped out because of a scandal, with Theresa Greenfield in IA-03 and Andrea Ramsey in KS-03. Then there’s the new Emily’s List candidate with the organization flooding the district with money in an initially low-cost primary, with Cindy Axne and Sharice Davids fitting the bill.

Emily’s List’s $400,000 ad buy is more than what the other candidates raised combined in Q2, and she’s been getting heavy national attention lately too, with well-known local Janelle Monae’s endorsement and her unusual background as a LGBTQ Native American who went from a local community college to working for Obama’s White House.

Of course, there’s also Sylvia Williams and some other random people, but they’re not raising nearly as much money or getting any buzz.
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« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2018, 07:28:27 PM »

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