CPRM, Pt 3: LA 11/6

[Gass3268]

Assuming she knocks off Yoder, this is interesting:

https://twitter.com/baseballot/status/1027176090396241920

[Zaybay]

Bit disappointing that Davids won, but progressives had some good wins in other areas, and she seems to be just a tad right of Welder.

[wesmoorenerd]

Bit disappointing that Davids won, but progressives had some good wins in other areas, and she seems to be just a tad right of Welder.

Actually, it's quite good news. I'm as progressive as they come so I can attest that Davids is a solid progressive without Welder's enormous baggage. Her winning over Welder pretty much instantly moved the race to a tossup instead of Lean R.

[smoltchanov]

Bit disappointing that Davids won, but progressives had some good wins in other areas, and she seems to be just a tad right of Welder.

Very glad, that Davids won, and progressives generally had unspectacular today (thanks God!)....

[Zaybay]

Bit disappointing that Davids won, but progressives had some good wins in other areas, and she seems to be just a tad right of Welder.

Actually, it's quite good news. I'm as progressive as they come so I can attest that Davids is a solid progressive without Welder's enormous baggage. Her winning over Welder pretty much instantly moved the race to a tossup instead of Lean R.

I know, but we could have had a socialist in KS, and it would have been proof that we can compete anywhere. I dont know the policy differences, I think they share most of the basics, but I would have really liked that image boost.

Bit disappointing that Davids won, but progressives had some good wins in other areas, and she seems to be just a tad right of Welder.

Very glad, that Davids won, and progressives generally had unspectacular today (thanks God!)....

No, yesterday(or today, different time zone) was pretty good for progressives. We notched some spots against some Rs, made a lot of races competitive in WA, Whitmer won in MI, and a DSA backed candidate won a safe seat, so that brings our count up to 2 this year.

[wesmoorenerd]

Bit disappointing that Davids won, but progressives had some good wins in other areas, and she seems to be just a tad right of Welder.

Actually, it's quite good news. I'm as progressive as they come so I can attest that Davids is a solid progressive without Welder's enormous baggage. Her winning over Welder pretty much instantly moved the race to a tossup instead of Lean R.

I know, but we could have had a socialist in KS, and it would have been proof that we can compete anywhere. I dont know the policy differences, I think they share most of the basics, but I would have really liked that image boost.

"Could have" is the key word. I don't know about you, but I'm a pragmatist. Welder would've been a significantly weaker GE candidate, and I don't really even think that's up for debate. I'd rather get a solid progressive in office than go for broke and try and get a socialist elected in Kansas. The latter would be nice, but it's tough. Probably too tough for it to have worked.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

WULFRIC PROJECTIONS - MI:

Governor
Libertarian Party Primary

CANDIDATE   VOTE   PCT.   
Bill Gelineau
3,944   58.4%   
John Tatar
2,814   41.6   
6,758 votes, 98% reporting (4,687 of 4,805 precincts)

U.S. House District 9 »

Democratic Primary

CANDIDATE   VOTE   PCT.   
Andy Levin
49,469   52.5%   
Ellen Lipton
39,900   42.4   
Martin Brook
4,841   5.1   
94,210 votes, 100% reporting (306 of 306 precincts)

WULFRIC PROJECTIONS - FINISHING UP KS:

U.S. House District 3 »

Democratic Primary

CANDIDATE   VOTE   PCT.   
Sharice Davids
22,891   37.3%   
Brent Welder
20,803   33.9   
Tom Niermann
8,740   14.3   
Mike McCamon
4,243   6.9   
Sylvia Williams
2,896   4.7   
Jay Sidie
1,748   2.9   
61,321 votes, 100% reporting (628 of 628 precincts)

APPARENT WINNER:

Governor
Republican Primary

CANDIDATE   VOTE   PCT.   
Kris Kobach
126,257   40.6%   
Jeff Colyer*
126,066   40.5   
Jim Barnett
27,449   8.8   
Ken Selzer
24,356   7.8   
Patrick Kucera
3,123   1.0   
Tyler Ruzich
2,217   0.7   
Joseph Tutera
1,541   0.5   
311,009 votes, 100% reporting (3,539 of 3,539 precincts)

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Still unable to call the following races:

MI - CD 11 D and R, CD 13 Special D
WA - CD 2 Slot 2, CD 8 Slot 2, CD 9 Slot 2, Court of Appeals Div. 1 Dist. 3 Pos. 1 Slot 2

[Pyro]

Congrats to EmilysList for securing a Republican vs. Republican match-up in KS-03.
Glad we have Rashida Tlaib at least scoring a win.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The only progressive win I can see from yesterday is Tlaib winning in MI-13. Everything else seems like an establishment-fest.

Still good news out of Washington, yeah.

[Pyro]

APPARENT WINNER:

Governor
Republican Primary

CANDIDATE   VOTE   PCT.   
Kris Kobach
126,257   40.6%   
Jeff Colyer*
126,066   40.5   

Doesn't this go to a recount?

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Hawley lost Johnson County

[ON Progressive]

Congrats to EmilysList for securing a Republican vs. Republican match-up in KS-03.

LMAO. You’re ridiculous if you think Davids isn’t progressive. At least she didn’t move into the district in April unlike Welder.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

APPARENT WINNER:

Governor
Republican Primary

CANDIDATE   VOTE   PCT.   
Kris Kobach
126,257   40.6%   
Jeff Colyer*
126,066   40.5   

Doesn't this go to a recount?

Potentially Yes. But "apparent winner" means just that - this candidate appears to have won, but some small error/legal challenge/whatever could change it.

[Zaybay]

Bit disappointing that Davids won, but progressives had some good wins in other areas, and she seems to be just a tad right of Welder.

Actually, it's quite good news. I'm as progressive as they come so I can attest that Davids is a solid progressive without Welder's enormous baggage. Her winning over Welder pretty much instantly moved the race to a tossup instead of Lean R.

I know, but we could have had a socialist in KS, and it would have been proof that we can compete anywhere. I dont know the policy differences, I think they share most of the basics, but I would have really liked that image boost.

"Could have" is the key word. I don't know about you, but I'm a pragmatist. Welder would've been a significantly weaker GE candidate, and I don't really even think that's up for debate. I'd rather get a solid progressive in office than go for broke and try and get a socialist elected in Kansas. The latter would be nice, but it's tough. Probably too tough for it to have worked.

I have been arguing for some unity on ideals for the Ds, so I may not be a pragmatist. But I have supported moderates over Progressives, like my undying support for Walz in MN. But it would have been really nice. His baggage was what worried me, not his policies, that may cause him to lose the primary/election, as I believe that Ds dont need to match the district, and just need to appeal well.

I will accept the loss, it does sting but I will accept it. We have had our wins, and we got a Solid Socialist in a second safe D seat, so thats something. I guess one candidate an overall primary doesnt make. The D party establishment has taken a large Left turn, so thats good.

[Pyro]

Congrats to EmilysList for securing a Republican vs. Republican match-up in KS-03.

LMAO. You’re ridiculous if you think Davids isn’t progressive. At least she didn’t move into the district in April unlike Welder.

This is Tom Perez all over again. The establishment saw a progressive insurgent gaining momentum and unnecessarily tossed in a conservative alternative to the mix. There was literally no reason to do this other than to disrupt an actual progressive win.

[Pyro]

APPARENT WINNER:

Governor
Republican Primary

CANDIDATE   VOTE   PCT.   
Kris Kobach
126,257   40.6%   
Jeff Colyer*
126,066   40.5   

Doesn't this go to a recount?

Potentially Yes. But "apparent winner" means just that - this candidate appears to have won, but some small error/legal challenge/whatever could change it.

If Colyer manages to successfully challenge this in a legal sense, Trump will lose his mind.

[Zaybay]

Congrats to EmilysList for securing a Republican vs. Republican match-up in KS-03.

LMAO. You’re ridiculous if you think Davids isn’t progressive. At least she didn’t move into the district in April unlike Welder.

This is Tom Perez all over again. The establishment saw a progressive insurgent gaining momentum and unnecessarily tossed in a conservative alternative to the mix. There was literally no reason to do this other than to disrupt an actual progressive win.

Pyro, shes not that bad. She is rather progressive, and we did notch a win in MI. Its just one seat, and there is HI, CT, MN, VT, WI, AK, WY, AZ, FL, OK, and others left to go.

[Zaybay]

After looking in depth at her platform, I have found out she is indeed a moderate. I am now really disappointed.

[Antonio the Sixth]

After looking in depth at her platform, I have found out she is indeed a moderate. I am now really disappointed.

Ugh, so am I.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Updating the Senate Primary Turnout Map, first I'll note that Missouri narrowed from 53-47 R to 52-48 R overnight. Second, in Michigan, where I'll use the gubernatorial numbers as there isn't an indication Stabenow was listed on the ballot, Dems won 53-47.

[Zaybay]

I take solace that in 2020, after Dems win the house and possibly the senate, that the message of Dem Unity will be ineffective, and Dems will finally start to support the candidates that they actually like, instead of "muh electoral strength"

[Antonio the Sixth]

I take solace that in 2020, after Dems win the house and possibly the senate, that the message of Dem Unity will be ineffective, and Dems will finally start to support the candidates that they actually like, instead of "muh electoral strength"

That's awfully optimistic.

[wesmoorenerd]

Congrats to EmilysList for securing a Republican vs. Republican match-up in KS-03.

LMAO. You’re ridiculous if you think Davids isn’t progressive. At least she didn’t move into the district in April unlike Welder.

This is Tom Perez all over again. The establishment saw a progressive insurgent gaining momentum and unnecessarily tossed in a conservative alternative to the mix. There was literally no reason to do this other than to disrupt an actual progressive win.

There is so much wrong with this I don't even know where to begin.

First of all, the goal of the party establishment is to win elections. Literally, that's it. It's not the Congressional Progressive Caucus, it's for campaigning. Welder was not the man to meet this goal. Putting aside the fact that he has literally no ties to Kansas City, let alone the entire state of Kansas, he has significant flaws in regards to his politics. It's not that he's too progressive for the district, it's that he's associated with some fringe elements of the party before. I don't necessarily have a problem with that, but this wasn't the district to run a candidate like that in. Do you know anything about KS-03? It's R+4 and largely suburban in character. This isn't AOC's district in Queens, you can't just run DSA members and expect them to win elections. Davids is an objectively better candidate, and if you can't see that, you should probably try and get your head out of your own ass. So yes, it was necessary for her to run.

Second of all, I love how you say the establishment "tossed" Davids into the mix. She's an activist with strong ties to the district unlike your bearded waifu and had every right to make a run for the nomination. As a progressive, it pisses me off that my fellow progressives feel entitled to be the only candidates running in these seats and cry foul whenever a more moderate challenger, even a slightly more moderate challenger like Davids, joins the fray. You're not owed anything. If Welder had a right to the seat he would've won.

Third, Davids had establishment backing, sure. But let's not pretend that getting endorsed by EMILY'S List is like getting added to the DCCC's Red to Blue list. The DCCC actually stayed out of this one just so they could give Welder a chance. That sounds pretty fair to me.

Fourth, Davids is not a conservative. You clearly know nothing about Sharice Davids. She's an experienced lawyer, specialist in development, and all around badass who brings a lot to the table in regards to diversity of perspectives in Congress. What she isn't is a conservative. Have you even seen any of her platform? If so, name one conservative position she holds. She's more moderate than Welder, but she's no blue dog.

[smoltchanov]

I take solace that in 2020, after Dems win the house and possibly the senate, that the message of Dem Unity will be ineffective, and Dems will finally start to support the candidates that they actually like, instead of "muh electoral strength"

The goal of the party is to win elections, not "purity of views" of it's members and candidates. Of course - if a party is NOT of Bolshevick's type, which you seem to admire.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The only progressive win I can see from yesterday is Tlaib winning in MI-13. Everything else seems like an establishment-fest.

Still good news out of Washington, yeah.

In what way are David's and Whitmer not progressive?

I'm just happy Davids won because Turner is a Young Turks fan. Oh my God do I f[inks]ing hate HATE HATE The Young Turks.