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« Reply #1500 on: September 25, 2022, 12:37:51 PM »

Well, Little Miss Mussolini is going to win. Many European countries turn to the far-right isn't surprising.

Hope the US can make Italy and those European nations into a colony of ours.


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« Reply #1501 on: September 25, 2022, 01:40:44 PM »
« Edited: September 25, 2022, 01:53:26 PM by rc18 »

7pm turnout was 51.16%, down -7.24%.
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« Reply #1502 on: September 25, 2022, 01:47:00 PM »

What's a good place to watch the results/tally?
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« Reply #1503 on: September 25, 2022, 01:51:48 PM »

Berlusconi under the threshold inshallah
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« Reply #1504 on: September 25, 2022, 01:51:49 PM »

Turnout change from 2018 at 19 by region, color coded by North/Center/South.

Lazio -2.05
Lombardia -3.92
Sicilia -5.16
Toscana -5.8
Friuli-Venezia Giulia -6.21
Emilia-Romagna -6.22
Marche -6.47

Veneto -7
Nationwide -7.24
Liguria -7.6
Trentino Alto Adige -7.97
Piemonte -8.24

Umbria -8.7
Abruzzo -9.9
Valle d'Aosta -10.26
Puglia -11.08
Sardegna -11.51
Basilicata -11.86
Molise -12.42
Calabria -12.72
Campania -13.85


Obviously the worst drops are concentrated in the South, which is bad news for M5S but also probably largely priced in by polls already. Turnout holding on decently in the red regions might be good news for the left, but only to a limited extent. And Lazio having the lowest drop... well, Lazio is a weird region but in this particular case I can only think of one reason why it would be so much more motivated than the rest of the country.
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« Reply #1505 on: September 25, 2022, 02:03:01 PM »

Turnout change in the largest cities:

Roma -1.58
Milano -2.13
Napoli -10.71
Torino -7.72
Palermo -5.37
Genova -7.91
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« Reply #1506 on: September 25, 2022, 02:06:15 PM »

but in this particular case I can only think of one reason why it would be so much more motivated than the rest of the country.

Is this the bad reason that immediately popped into my head or something I'm missing - which is certainly quite possible.
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« Reply #1507 on: September 25, 2022, 02:16:52 PM »

but in this particular case I can only think of one reason why it would be so much more motivated than the rest of the country.

Is this the bad reason that immediately popped into my head or something I'm missing - which is certainly quite possible.

Well, perhaps it would be fairer to say that there are two interconnected reasons: Lazio's own, er, rich history of neofascist sympathies, and the fact that Meloni herself is from Rome.


What's a good place to watch the results/tally?

https://elezioni.interno.gov.it/camera/scrutini/20220925/scrutiniCI

Results theoretically start coming in at 23 local time, but more likely around midnight.
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« Reply #1508 on: September 25, 2022, 02:23:42 PM »

Turnout change in the largest cities:

Roma -1.58
Milano -2.13
Napoli -10.71
Torino -7.72
Palermo -5.37
Genova -7.91

Pffft more like No Star.
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« Reply #1509 on: September 25, 2022, 02:26:10 PM »

Why does Sicily have a relatively low drop, do we think?
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« Reply #1510 on: September 25, 2022, 02:27:20 PM »

Why does Sicily have a relatively low drop, do we think?

I would assume it's because there's also a regional election going on there today
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« Reply #1511 on: September 25, 2022, 02:37:20 PM »

Any livestream and links to results?
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« Reply #1512 on: September 25, 2022, 02:38:47 PM »

I’d forgotten how insane this voting system was…
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« Reply #1513 on: September 25, 2022, 02:40:11 PM »

Why does Sicily have a relatively low drop, do we think?

I would assume it's because there's also a regional election going on there today

That is my best guess, yeah, but if so that would be a new thing in Italy. We haven't really had "reverse coattails" style turnout boosts like this before. It might also just be that the storm that swept through Italy throughout the day just happened to spare Sicily. I haven't seen the weather maps so I can't say for sure, but maybe Battista did.
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« Reply #1514 on: September 25, 2022, 02:45:17 PM »

Well, perhaps it would be fairer to say that there are two interconnected reasons: Lazio's own, er, rich history of neofascist sympathies, and the fact that Meloni herself is from Rome.

As I feared then.
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« Reply #1515 on: September 25, 2022, 02:47:27 PM »

As I had probably already announced I chose not to be a poll worker this time around. I also chose to vote late, which was kind of a mistake although the storm had already stopped here by the time I got out again. I voted AVS for the Chamber and PD for the Senate, if anyone is interested.

I am saddened by how turnout looks poised to drop again and particularly pissed off that a significant cause of that is... rain. Who knew old NoVA memes would come in handy in such a different scenario?
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« Reply #1516 on: September 25, 2022, 02:54:46 PM »

Why does Sicily have a relatively low drop, do we think?

I would assume it's because there's also a regional election going on there today

That is my best guess, yeah, but if so that would be a new thing in Italy. We haven't really had "reverse coattails" style turnout boosts like this before. It might also just be that the storm that swept through Italy throughout the day just happened to spare Sicily. I haven't seen the weather maps so I can't say for sure, but maybe Battista did.

I have searched through some weather maps and it doesn't seem like Sicily was really spared (although the one clearest thing is that the most hit region is Campania). I would assume the regional election, which is probably more felt there than in most regions, is the main reason for the discrepancy.
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« Reply #1517 on: September 25, 2022, 03:05:12 PM »

Links: (if anyone finds any more, esp. live results maps, please post - thanks)

https://elezioni.interno.gov.it/camera/votanti/20220925/votantiCI

https://www.raiplay.it/dirette/rainews24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVB_Wx5T16g

https://www.la7.it/dirette-tv

https://www.corriere.it/

https://www.repubblica.it/
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« Reply #1518 on: September 25, 2022, 03:21:17 PM »


Corriere has a result map similar to last time that should be live updated - you just need to click past the paywalled pages to get to the results section: https://www.corriere.it/elezioni/risultati-politiche-2022/camera.shtml
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« Reply #1519 on: September 25, 2022, 03:48:39 PM »

So no real exit polls?
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« Reply #1520 on: September 25, 2022, 03:49:22 PM »

Exit polls in 11 mins I believe.
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« Reply #1521 on: September 25, 2022, 03:50:35 PM »


La7 will give us something it calls a "trend poll", which sounds basically like an exit poll weighted with results from early polling statiions. No idea what that methodology is worth, so I'll take it with a grain of salt.
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« Reply #1522 on: September 25, 2022, 03:59:23 PM »

Here we go. May God help us all.
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« Reply #1523 on: September 25, 2022, 04:01:16 PM »

*MELONI'S RIGHT BLOC AT 111-131 seats in senate: RAI Poll
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« Reply #1524 on: September 25, 2022, 04:02:00 PM »

*MELONI'S RIGHT BLOC AT 227-257 seats in lower house: RAI Poll
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