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« Reply #250 on: July 24, 2018, 02:12:15 PM »
« edited: July 24, 2018, 02:16:07 PM by ERM64man »

Is Cisneros a stronger candidate than Thorburn would have been? I can't see Thorburn doing as well.
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« Reply #251 on: July 24, 2018, 02:20:31 PM »

Is Cisneros a stronger candidate than Thorburn would have been? I can't see Thorburn doing as well.

Much better than Thorburn, probably better than Jammal, probably worse than Tran. But Cisneros has boatloads of money, so at least he has that going for him.
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« Reply #252 on: July 24, 2018, 03:34:26 PM »
« Edited: July 24, 2018, 03:44:52 PM by Interlocutor »

Not sure how bold it is, but I think Kim will be the only OC Republican to win their house race. I just don't think Cisneros is a great candidate for the 39th, although that point could be moot by November. It'll definitely flip by 2020.

On the other side, I think Walters is looking like an easier pickup by the day.
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« Reply #253 on: July 24, 2018, 03:43:34 PM »

Does establishment Democrat Lou Correa survive 2020, or does he lose to a challenger from the left?
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« Reply #254 on: July 24, 2018, 04:36:02 PM »

Kim is probably the slight favourite right now. She’s lead in all of the head-to-head match-ups against Cisneros, and this district was the most Republican one out of the Orange County districts in the June primary, even more so than CA-45 and CA-48.

It might even be the toughest OC seat overall. Democratic State Senator John Newman got recalled by a pretty solid margin in a district that aligns closely with CA-39 in June. It still has Republican downballot strength that is still holding on.

The district is so tough because Democrats depend the most on minority turnout to win in this race. It’s strongly majority-minority, but the electorate isn’t, especially in midterm elections.

In order to win, Cisneros needs to
1. Boost Latino turnout and ensure their representation in the electorate is more along the lines of 2016 rather than 2014.
2. Win Asian-American voters by a solid margin.
3. Avoid getting slaughtered among white voters.

The only reason I am hesitant to read into the jungle primary results is that GOP turnout was likely boosted by the aformentioned Josh Newman recall.
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« Reply #255 on: July 24, 2018, 04:37:09 PM »

How high will Los Angeles County turnout be in CA-39?
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« Reply #256 on: July 24, 2018, 04:39:13 PM »

Is Cisneros a stronger candidate than Thorburn would have been? I can't see Thorburn doing as well.

Much better than Thorburn, probably better than Jammal, probably worse than Tran. But Cisneros has boatloads of money, so at least he has that going for him.

IIRC, he is a lottery winner, so that wealth is not exactly reflective of any intrinsic talent. If he wins its solely due to the political climate and demographics (CA-39, TX-23, and FL-26 will all likely have a similar outcome)
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« Reply #257 on: July 24, 2018, 04:40:31 PM »

Kim is probably the slight favourite right now. She’s lead in all of the head-to-head match-ups against Cisneros, and this district was the most Republican one out of the Orange County districts in the June primary, even more so than CA-45 and CA-48.

It might even be the toughest OC seat overall. Democratic State Senator John Newman got recalled by a pretty solid margin in a district that aligns closely with CA-39 in June. It still has Republican downballot strength that is still holding on.

The district is so tough because Democrats depend the most on minority turnout to win in this race. It’s strongly majority-minority, but the electorate isn’t, especially in midterm elections.

In order to win, Cisneros needs to
1. Boost Latino turnout and ensure their representation in the electorate is more along the lines of 2016 rather than 2014.
2. Win Asian-American voters by a solid margin.
3. Avoid getting slaughtered among white voters.

Lol, Tran was significantly weaker than Thorburn, and even he’s not even in the same league as Cisneros in terms of candidate quality.  Cisneros was our only A-list recruit in the district this cycle.
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« Reply #258 on: July 24, 2018, 04:44:24 PM »

Kim is probably the slight favourite right now. She’s lead in all of the head-to-head match-ups against Cisneros, and this district was the most Republican one out of the Orange County districts in the June primary, even more so than CA-45 and CA-48.

It might even be the toughest OC seat overall. Democratic State Senator John Newman got recalled by a pretty solid margin in a district that aligns closely with CA-39 in June. It still has Republican downballot strength that is still holding on.

The district is so tough because Democrats depend the most on minority turnout to win in this race. It’s strongly majority-minority, but the electorate isn’t, especially in midterm elections.

In order to win, Cisneros needs to
1. Boost Latino turnout and ensure their representation in the electorate is more along the lines of 2016 rather than 2014.
2. Win Asian-American voters by a solid margin.
3. Avoid getting slaughtered among white voters.

Lol, Tran was significantly weaker than Thorburn, and even he’s not even in the same league as Cisneros in terms of candidate quality.  Cisneros was our only A-list recruit in the district this cycle.
Is turnout going to be good in Los Angeles County?
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« Reply #259 on: July 24, 2018, 07:36:51 PM »

Is Cisneros a stronger candidate than Thorburn would have been? I can't see Thorburn doing as well.

Much better than Thorburn, probably better than Jammal, probably worse than Tran. But Cisneros has boatloads of money, so at least he has that going for him.

IIRC, he is a lottery winner, so that wealth is not exactly reflective of any intrinsic talent. If he wins its solely due to the political climate and demographics (CA-39, TX-23, and FL-26 will all likely have a similar outcome)

Sounds a lot like Trump!
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« Reply #260 on: July 24, 2018, 07:51:45 PM »

Is Cisneros a stronger candidate than Thorburn would have been? I can't see Thorburn doing as well.

Much better than Thorburn, probably better than Jammal, probably worse than Tran. But Cisneros has boatloads of money, so at least he has that going for him.

IIRC, he is a lottery winner, so that wealth is not exactly reflective of any intrinsic talent. If he wins its solely due to the political climate and demographics (CA-39, TX-23, and FL-26 will all likely have a similar outcome)

Sounds a lot like Trump!

If Trump used daddy's money to set up scholarships for underprivileged youths.
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« Reply #261 on: July 24, 2018, 08:00:47 PM »

Unlike Trump, Cisneros served in the armed forces.
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« Reply #262 on: July 24, 2018, 09:47:42 PM »

Kim is probably the slight favourite right now. She’s lead in all of the head-to-head match-ups against Cisneros, and this district was the most Republican one out of the Orange County districts in the June primary, even more so than CA-45 and CA-48.

It might even be the toughest OC seat overall. Democratic State Senator John Newman got recalled by a pretty solid margin in a district that aligns closely with CA-39 in June. It still has Republican downballot strength that is still holding on.

The district is so tough because Democrats depend the most on minority turnout to win in this race. It’s strongly majority-minority, but the electorate isn’t, especially in midterm elections.

In order to win, Cisneros needs to
1. Boost Latino turnout and ensure their representation in the electorate is more along the lines of 2016 rather than 2014.
2. Win Asian-American voters by a solid margin.
3. Avoid getting slaughtered among white voters.

Lol, Tran was significantly weaker than Thorburn, and even he’s not even in the same league as Cisneros in terms of candidate quality.  Cisneros was our only A-list recruit in the district this cycle.
Is turnout going to be good in Los Angeles County?

Probably the #Resistance is super fired up here to vote in safe d seats lol
Part of CA-39 (Hacienda Heights and Rowland Heights) is in LA County. If LA County turnout in CA-39 is poor, Cisneros might not win.
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« Reply #263 on: July 24, 2018, 10:38:49 PM »

Kim is probably the slight favourite right now. She’s lead in all of the head-to-head match-ups against Cisneros, and this district was the most Republican one out of the Orange County districts in the June primary, even more so than CA-45 and CA-48.

It might even be the toughest OC seat overall. Democratic State Senator John Newman got recalled by a pretty solid margin in a district that aligns closely with CA-39 in June. It still has Republican downballot strength that is still holding on.

The district is so tough because Democrats depend the most on minority turnout to win in this race. It’s strongly majority-minority, but the electorate isn’t, especially in midterm elections.

In order to win, Cisneros needs to
1. Boost Latino turnout and ensure their representation in the electorate is more along the lines of 2016 rather than 2014.
2. Win Asian-American voters by a solid margin.
3. Avoid getting slaughtered among white voters.

Lol, Tran was significantly weaker than Thorburn, and even he’s not even in the same league as Cisneros in terms of candidate quality.  Cisneros was our only A-list recruit in the district this cycle.

Um, Jay Chen, a Community College Trustee and the 2014 candidate would have been the best fit for the district and would have been heavily favored for the win. But, alas, he dropped out of the primary.
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« Reply #264 on: July 26, 2018, 03:35:02 PM »

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« Reply #265 on: July 26, 2018, 04:22:35 PM »

Yeah, the local party is treating him like persona non grata1 (I get emails from the OCGOP asking for volunteers for Kim, Walters, and Harkey), the oppo research against Rouda is underwhelming (he's an "anti-gun socialist", haven't heard that one before), and he does not exactly exude grace under pressure. Disregarding my cathartic desire to see the anti-Russia fanatics lose I think Rouda probably has the upper hand here.

1Undoubtedly sitting on their hands this cycle so that Scott Baugh can have the privilege of losing in 2020.
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« Reply #266 on: July 26, 2018, 06:40:48 PM »

Yeah, the local party is treating him like persona non grata1 (I get emails from the OCGOP asking for volunteers for Kim, Walters, and Harkey), the oppo research against Rouda is underwhelming (he's an "anti-gun socialist", haven't heard that one before), and he does not exactly exude grace under pressure. Disregarding my cathartic desire to see the anti-Russia fanatics lose I think Rouda probably has the upper hand here.

1Undoubtedly sitting on their hands this cycle so that Scott Baugh can have the privilege of losing in 2020.

Sounds like a pure toss up to me!
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« Reply #267 on: July 26, 2018, 06:51:05 PM »

Yeah, the local party is treating him like persona non grata1 (I get emails from the OCGOP asking for volunteers for Kim, Walters, and Harkey).

That’s because Dana Rohrabacher will cruise to victory in November. The suburban deplorables love him.
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« Reply #268 on: July 26, 2018, 06:55:13 PM »

Anecdotal I know, but my Huntington Beach retired grandparents were against Rochrabacher. They are typically loyal republican foot-soldiers - both Trump voters, but don't like Rochrabacher's Russia ties. They want to see him gone (they voted for Baugh) but are happy to vote for Rouda to then return another Rep in 2020.
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« Reply #269 on: July 26, 2018, 07:28:15 PM »

Will turnout in Hacienda Heights be fairly good? Cisneros needs it to win.
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« Reply #270 on: July 26, 2018, 07:48:55 PM »

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Fueling more questions? I think we know everything we need to without having to ask them.
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« Reply #271 on: July 26, 2018, 07:51:23 PM »

Will turnout in Hacienda Heights be fairly good? Cisneros needs it to win.

Not sure, it had a large turnout increase from the 2014 primary, but that’s because this year they were being actively targeted by Cisneros and his campaign. Hispanics generally haven’t had very good turnout this year, as TX-27 can testify to, so it might be pretty underwhelming in November.

The Asian-American community overall should vote for Gil Cisneros, as Young Kim is Korean and a largest portion of the AAPI community is Chinese-American. However, this district is represented almost entirely by Chinese-American Republican legislators (State Senator Ling Ling Chang & State Assemblyman Phillip Chen), so who knows.
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« Reply #272 on: July 26, 2018, 07:57:10 PM »

Has Assembly Majority Leader Ian Calderon (whose district overlaps with CA-39) endorsed Cisneros?
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« Reply #273 on: August 10, 2018, 05:31:29 PM »

Poll from CA-39 has Cisneros beating Kim by 11 with just 5% undecided. It is an internal though.

https://cisnerosforcongress.com/app/uploads/2018/08/Tulchin-Research-Memo-Gil-Cisneros-CA-39-PUBLIC-MEMO-8-18.pdf
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« Reply #274 on: August 10, 2018, 05:34:59 PM »
« Edited: August 10, 2018, 06:03:37 PM by Jeppe »

This is the same pollster that had Mike Levin comfortably ahead of Harkey in the jungle primary in CA-49, so I wouldn’t be too confident in these numbers. After all, the DCCC’s in-house pollster had Kim ahead in June.
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