Kucinich hits new lows

[Landslide Lyndon]

What the hell is the deal with some leftists and reactionary governments? It's only occasionally that this seeps into the 'real' public spheres, but online, esp. Reddit's socialism, LSC are obsessed with Assad, Putin, Zakharchenko, etc. My local DSA is fairly bad about it too.

The enemy of my enemy (Deepstate, FBI, CIA, Federal Government, Neocons) is my friend.

Clearly if you oppose arming every Syrian jihadist, you must believe that the enemy of your enemy is your friend.

Because in jfern's warped worldview if you are opposed to a dictator who gasses his own people, that makes you an ISIS sympathizer and a neoliberal warmonger.

I suppose everyone who opposed the Iraq war loved Saddam, too?

How about opposing both?
I know it's a novel approach for someone like you who sees the world in black and white, either with us or against us.

[Gustaf]

This is a bit like when people say "you can be anti-Israel without being anti-semitic". Like, yes, you CAN, but the people who end up insisting on this a lot usually aren't.

[America Needs R'hllor]

None of these bloody-knifed Democrats actually "oppose" Assad. They just want more body bags.

Yep. Keep telling yourself that you're the only moral person and everyone who disagrees with you is a bloodthirsty murderer who wants death and has horns beneath his hair. Nothing can go wrong like that.

Also:

This is a bit like when people say "you can be anti-Israel without being anti-semitic". Like, yes, you CAN, but the people who end up insisting on this a lot usually aren't.

Fully agreed.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

This is a bit like when people say "you can be anti-Israel without being anti-semitic". Like, yes, you CAN, but the people who end up insisting on this a lot usually aren't.

It sounds a bit like "I'm not a racist, BUT..."

[BundouYMB]

None of these bloody-knifed Democrats actually "oppose" Assad. They just want more body bags.

Man, I wish I was capable of the kind of mental gymnastics where you support one of the most blood thirsty dictators in history who loves to gas his own people and then say anyone who oposes dear leader just wants more body bags. I could eat seven gallons of ice cream while on a diet!

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I honestly forgot Kucinich was ever a thing.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Interesting how no poster here has actually addressed Kucinich's actions and instead are just throwing out "warmonger" accusations against his critics...

What the hell is the deal with some leftists and reactionary governments? It's only occasionally that this seeps into the 'real' public spheres, but online, esp. Reddit's socialism, LSC are obsessed with Assad, Putin, Zakharchenko, etc. My local DSA is fairly bad about it too.

The enemy of my enemy (Deepstate, FBI, CIA, Federal Government, Neocons) is my friend.

Clearly if you oppose arming every Syrian jihadist, you must believe that the enemy of your enemy is your friend.

Because in jfern's warped worldview if you are opposed to a dictator who gasses his own people, that makes you an ISIS sympathizer and a neoliberal warmonger.

I suppose everyone who opposed the Iraq war loved Saddam, too?

Of course not. However I don't know of any anti-war activist who didn't just speak out against the Iraq War but visit Saddam personally and parrot his propaganda back to the US (something that clearly wouldn't have helped the anti-war movement) and accept a $20k payment from a Baathist-aligned fascist group to do so. Which is the actual parallel to what happened here.

I know it's futile with who I'm responding to, but I thought that point needed to be made.

[Greedo punched first]

What the hell is the deal with some leftists and reactionary governments? It's only occasionally that this seeps into the 'real' public spheres, but online, esp. Reddit's socialism, LSC are obsessed with Assad, Putin, Zakharchenko, etc. My local DSA is fairly bad about it too.

The enemy of my enemy (Deepstate, FBI, CIA, Federal Government, Neocons) is my friend.

Don't forget Israel. They see Israel as an enemy because of anti-Semitism.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

What the hell is the deal with some leftists and reactionary governments? It's only occasionally that this seeps into the 'real' public spheres, but online, esp. Reddit's socialism, LSC are obsessed with Assad, Putin, Zakharchenko, etc. My local DSA is fairly bad about it too.

The enemy of my enemy (Deepstate, FBI, CIA, Federal Government, Neocons) is my friend.

Clearly if you oppose arming every Syrian jihadist, you must believe that the enemy of your enemy is your friend.

Because in jfern's warped worldview if you are opposed to a dictator who gasses his own people, that makes you an ISIS sympathizer and a neoliberal warmonger.

I suppose everyone who opposed the Iraq war loved Saddam, too?

How about opposing both?
I know it's a novel approach for someone like you who sees the world in black and white, either with us or against us.

How funny, someone who says everyone against Hillary must be a Trump supporter and everyone who opposes helping the Syrian jihadists must be a Assad lover accuses others of seeing the world as just black and white.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Proving that px is a hypocrite does not prove your point. Textbook popoisoning the well fallacy.

[Landslide Lyndon]

How funny, someone who says everyone against Hillary must be a Trump supporter and everyone who opposes helping the Syrian jihadists must be a Assad lover accuses others of seeing the world as just black and white.

Well, if your argument is that Kucinich, Gabbard and you aren't really Assad supporters but just his useful idiots, then I guess I have nothing to add to that.

[Progressive Pessimist]

What the hell is the deal with some leftists and reactionary governments? It's only occasionally that this seeps into the 'real' public spheres, but online, esp. Reddit's socialism, LSC are obsessed with Assad, Putin, Zakharchenko, etc. My local DSA is fairly bad about it too.

Anything to spite the "establishment."

[junior chįmp]

Kusinich won't win but just lol at criticizing anyone for taking speaking fees or "donation's" from nefarious funds in this post Citizens United world

[Badger]

None of these bloody-knifed Democrats actually "oppose" Assad. They just want more body bags.

[BuckeyeNut]

None of these bloody-knifed Democrats actually "oppose" Assad. They just want more body bags.

[Gustaf]

Interesting how no poster here has actually addressed Kucinich's actions and instead are just throwing out "warmonger" accusations against his critics...

What the hell is the deal with some leftists and reactionary governments? It's only occasionally that this seeps into the 'real' public spheres, but online, esp. Reddit's socialism, LSC are obsessed with Assad, Putin, Zakharchenko, etc. My local DSA is fairly bad about it too.

The enemy of my enemy (Deepstate, FBI, CIA, Federal Government, Neocons) is my friend.

Clearly if you oppose arming every Syrian jihadist, you must believe that the enemy of your enemy is your friend.

Because in jfern's warped worldview if you are opposed to a dictator who gasses his own people, that makes you an ISIS sympathizer and a neoliberal warmonger.

I suppose everyone who opposed the Iraq war loved Saddam, too?

Of course not. However I don't know of any anti-war activist who didn't just speak out against the Iraq War but visit Saddam personally and parrot his propaganda back to the US (something that clearly wouldn't have helped the anti-war movement) and accept a $20k payment from a Baathist-aligned fascist group to do so. Which is the actual parallel to what happened here.

I know it's futile with who I'm responding to, but I thought that point needed to be made.

George Galloway says hi (but yes your point still stands)

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

[°Leprechaun]

I hope he becomes governor, that would put him in a great position to run for POTUS.

With such terrible prospects for beating Trump, it would be a dream come true.

He would be the best Dem candidate, great on all the issues, and also as governor it would put him in a good position to win the key state of Ohio, which would be hard for any other Democrat to win.
Ohio would put him over the top. He's better than Bernie on the issues, and unlike with Bernie who probably won't run age wouldn't be an issue.

He may be our last chance to get a non Establishment candidate for decades.

I am behind him a googolplex % (or maybe more)
Anybody with me?

[junior chįmp]

Kusinich won't win but just lol at criticizing anyone for taking speaking fees or "donation's" from nefarious funds in this post Citizens United world

Truth be told, I’m disappointed his payout wasn’t more. He must be a cheap whore

Kusinich got cucked

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

I hope he becomes governor, that would put him in a great position to run for POTUS.

With such terrible prospects for beating Trump, it would be a dream come true.

He would be the best Dem candidate, great on all the issues, and also as governor it would put him in a good position to win the key state of Ohio, which would be hard for any other Democrat to win.
Ohio would put him over the top. He's better than Bernie on the issues, and unlike with Bernie who probably won't run age wouldn't be an issue.

He may be our last chance to get a non Establishment candidate for decades.

I am behind him a googolplex % (or maybe more)
Anybody with me?

I'm just going to pretend you're talking about Cordray.

[°Leprechaun]

Kucinich was asked in a debate why he met with Assad, decide for yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkaR9dSdxu4

@ 26 minutes in the video

[°Leprechaun]

I hope he becomes governor, that would put him in a great position to run for POTUS.

With such terrible prospects for beating Trump, it would be a dream come true.

He would be the best Dem candidate, great on all the issues, and also as governor it would put him in a good position to win the key state of Ohio, which would be hard for any other Democrat to win.
Ohio would put him over the top. He's better than Bernie on the issues, and unlike with Bernie who probably won't run age wouldn't be an issue.

He may be our last chance to get a non Establishment candidate for decades.

I am behind him a googolplex % (or maybe more)
Anybody with me?

I'm just going to pretend you're talking about Cordray.

Is Cordray going to run for POTUS in 2018?

[Progressive Pessimist]

I hope he becomes governor, that would put him in a great position to run for POTUS.

With such terrible prospects for beating Drumpf, it would be a dream come true.

He would be the best Dem candidate, great on all the issues, and also as governor it would put him in a good position to win the key state of Ohio, which would be hard for any other Democrat to win.
Ohio would put him over the top. He's better than Bernie on the issues, and unlike with Bernie who probably won't run age wouldn't be an issue.

He may be our last chance to get a non Establishment candidate for decades.

I am behind him a googolplex % (or maybe more)
Anybody with me?

Back in high school I would have been with you.

[Sumner 1868]

I see I called the usual suspects out of the woodwork. And the responses where as mediocre as I predicted.

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

I see I called the usual suspects out of the woodwork. And the responses where as mediocre as I predicted.

or... you could actually just make good posts?