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« Reply #200 on: February 15, 2018, 04:10:44 PM »

I find it hard to believe that the FBI couldn't have traced the person who made the YouTube comment last year if they really wanted to. Apparently the YouTube account was closed only after the shooting.
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« Reply #201 on: February 15, 2018, 04:12:07 PM »

I wonder if this has to do with circumcision. European countries hardly ever circumcise their kids, especially lately, and there are virtually no mass shootings, mass stabbings etc.

As a proudly uncircumcized man let me say that yes, this entirely the reason
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« Reply #202 on: February 15, 2018, 04:22:33 PM »

Grüezi Mitenand!

I have just finished a hard day of skiiing, yodelling, making cheese and hiding nazi gold and would like to confirm - it is really annoying when right-wing American's parrot their bullsh**t misunderstanding of Swiss gun laws to justify your own deranged relationship with guns

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« Reply #203 on: February 15, 2018, 04:27:32 PM »

You know, this applies in many scenarios, but in this scenario especially: there were very clear signs that this guy had issues. He posted on social media his desire to harm people. He was expelled from the school for disciplinary issues. Those who knew him spoke of him as a loner, and a weird kid. Focusing on guns takes away from the real issue that we had something very preventable if others had actually stepped in to help this guy, be it teachers, parents/guardians, friends, etc. We should be focusing on who is failing these people, and how. The gun clearly isn't the problem.

Yeah, we need to do a lot better job funding mental health services.


Instead of letting the GOP cut them?
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/11/06/trump-cuts-funding-mental-health-blames-mental-illness-texas-church-shooting.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2017/03/10/gop-plan-strips-addiction-mental-health-coverage-for-millions-as-deaths-and-costs-soar/#2f4f3744a3e4


So, Americans are dying, not because of guns or mental illness, but because of Republicans?  (Who prevent us from implementing sane gun policy or desperately needed. health care.)
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« Reply #204 on: February 15, 2018, 04:32:22 PM »

So, for all of those people saying that it's "clear" that mental health is at the root of this problem, and that increased funding of mental health services (I have never seen a more concise explanation of what exactly this would be), what efforts has anyone on the right ever made to actually expand mental health service availability, especially for poor people? Which Republican governors have made efforts to have counseling or therapy covered by insurance? Which Republican legislators are making efforts to advertise or create public infrastructure to connect people who need services with providers? Who is trying to increase funding into social or psychological research into violence and mental health issues?
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« Reply #205 on: February 15, 2018, 04:35:27 PM »

I wonder if this has to do with circumcision. European countries hardly ever circumcise their kids, especially lately, and there are virtually no mass shootings, mass stabbings etc.

by gods, have we stumbled on the secret for peace in the middle east?
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« Reply #206 on: February 15, 2018, 04:35:34 PM »

ITS DUG EVIW SATANIKC VIDYA GAYMETH
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« Reply #207 on: February 15, 2018, 04:37:37 PM »

I wonder if this has to do with circumcision. European countries hardly ever circumcise their kids, especially lately, and there are virtually no mass shootings, mass stabbings etc.

by gods, have we stumbled on the secret for peace in the middle east?

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NO!!! How have you discovered our secret?!?!
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« Reply #208 on: February 15, 2018, 04:48:25 PM »

I wonder if this has to do with circumcision. European countries hardly ever circumcise their kids, especially lately, and there are virtually no mass shootings, mass stabbings etc.
W-what?
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« Reply #209 on: February 15, 2018, 04:49:15 PM »

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DTFO.
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« Reply #210 on: February 15, 2018, 04:51:23 PM »

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DTFO.

It takes true filth.
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« Reply #211 on: February 15, 2018, 04:54:04 PM »

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DTFO.

Cry those crocodile tears. Monster.
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« Reply #212 on: February 15, 2018, 04:59:58 PM »

I wonder if this has to do with circumcision. European countries hardly ever circumcise their kids, especially lately, and there are virtually no mass shootings, mass stabbings etc.

by gods, have we stumbled on the secret for peace in the middle east?

*Hides automatic rifle*
NO!!! How have you discovered our secret?!?!

What is wrong with some of you?
How can you find such bizarre humor in this tragic event?
There are families out there who have lost loved ones. That are dealing with burying their kids.
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« Reply #213 on: February 15, 2018, 05:05:47 PM »

So, for all of those people saying that it's "clear" that mental health is at the root of this problem, and that increased funding of mental health services (I have never seen a more concise explanation of what exactly this would be), what efforts has anyone on the right ever made to actually expand mental health service availability, especially for poor people? Which Republican governors have made efforts to have counseling or therapy covered by insurance? Which Republican legislators are making efforts to advertise or create public infrastructure to connect people who need services with providers? Who is trying to increase funding into social or psychological research into violence and mental health issues?

Focusing on mental health is the Republican response to mass shootings because it's the easiest way for them to divert focus away from gun control while also showing the public that they aren't indifferent to attacks.

However they never actually work to address better mental health treatment because it's not actually a policy they truly want to focus on. It's just a prop. They do way more for policies they really care about, like loosening gun control and abortion. They push bills for those issues day in and day out in legislatures and Congress. If you look at the amount of effort they expend on those issues and compare it to mental health stuff, it's not even remotely close.
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« Reply #214 on: February 15, 2018, 05:11:09 PM »

So, for all of those people saying that it's "clear" that mental health is at the root of this problem, and that increased funding of mental health services (I have never seen a more concise explanation of what exactly this would be), what efforts has anyone on the right ever made to actually expand mental health service availability, especially for poor people? Which Republican governors have made efforts to have counseling or therapy covered by insurance? Which Republican legislators are making efforts to advertise or create public infrastructure to connect people who need services with providers? Who is trying to increase funding into social or psychological research into violence and mental health issues?

Why not address both?
Focusing on mental health is the Republican response to mass shootings because it's the easiest way for them to divert focus away from gun control while also showing the public that they aren't indifferent to attacks.

However they never actually work to address better mental health treatment because it's not actually a policy they truly want to focus on. It's just a prop. They do way more for policies they really care about, like loosening gun control and abortion. They push bills for those issues day in and day out in legislatures and Congress. If you look at the amount of effort they expend on those issues and compare it to mental health stuff, it's not even remotely close.
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« Reply #215 on: February 15, 2018, 05:19:07 PM »

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DTFO.

Cry those crocodile tears. Monster.

The police are saying that he went to Subway and McDonald's right after the shooting. Sounds like a guy full of remorse.
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« Reply #216 on: February 15, 2018, 05:22:12 PM »

He deserves a second chance, just like Logan Paul! He'll be back with more Instagram followers than ever! /s
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« Reply #217 on: February 15, 2018, 05:41:54 PM »

The Republican party is basically a death cult at this point.  They worship, promote, and celebrate death... in their politics, in their religion, in their hobbies and interests...  with how much they project... no wonder they're always yammerin on about 'pro life"
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« Reply #218 on: February 15, 2018, 05:43:34 PM »

Looks like the white supremacy link which was reported might be BS. Jordan Jereb, the leader of the white supremacist organisation who claimed the shooter was affiliated, has a history of being an attention seeker:

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« Reply #219 on: February 15, 2018, 05:49:17 PM »

He deserves a second chance, just like Logan Paul! He'll be back with more Instagram followers than ever! /s

If he gets a chance to sexually assault some women in the next two decades, maybe the Republicans will nominate him for President because of how well he embodies their values.

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« Reply #220 on: February 15, 2018, 05:58:48 PM »

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« Reply #221 on: February 15, 2018, 06:02:02 PM »

Looks like the white supremacy link which was reported might be BS. Jordan Jereb, the leader of the white supremacist organisation who claimed the shooter was affiliated, has a history of being an attention seeker:


Lol they’re like Nazi larpers.
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« Reply #222 on: February 15, 2018, 07:00:32 PM »
« Edited: February 15, 2018, 07:03:37 PM by omelott »

I don't want to politicize this incident, but some might find this interesting:

https://www.snopes.com/did-shooters-instagram-picture-maga-hat/
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« Reply #223 on: February 15, 2018, 08:02:28 PM »

The "pro-life" "family values" "party of Jesus" will only care about gun control when someone kills their donors, and even then it would seem pointless.

"Thoughts and prayers" is GOP code word for "Sorry you got killed but there's nothing I can do about it because my constituents' constitutional rights to go sit in the woods and kill a deer is more important to me than your children's right to not be murdered in school."

It's despicable and beyond deplorable, but what more can you say about a party that nominated Donald Trump?
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« Reply #224 on: February 15, 2018, 08:18:27 PM »

We should repeal the 2nd Amendment, seize everyone's guns and do what Australia did. Ordinary people do not need guns.

If they refuse to give up their guns and pose a threat to the army/police they should be labeled as traitors to America and charged with treason, and if they fire their weapons, then all means necessary should be used to stop them.

I cannot begin to tell you how offensive these ideas are.

The millions of lawful, law-abiding gun owners, of which I am one, are not the problem here.  Never have been.  Never will be. 
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