New PA Maps In Effect

[Tintrlvr]

Personally I think it's imperative that the new map contains a majority Amish/Mennonite/Pennsylvania Dutch district to ensure these underrepresented demographics a seat in Congress. Any thoughts on what such a district might look like?

It looks invisible because it's impossible. There are 74,250 Amish in PA and no county where the population of Dutch Amish exceeds 10% of the total population.

If you include Mennonites and other Pennsylvania Dutch groups (who are not Dutch so should avoid using the term without "Pennsylvania" in front of it), there are probably enough to be close to a majority of a congressional district. Most Amish typically don't vote anyway, so you're relying on Amish-adjacent Mennonites and the like for representation. A district consisting of rural Lancaster County plus rural York County (which is enough together for a district) would at least be strongly influenced by Pennsylvania Dutch if not outright controlled by them.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Does this help Matt Cartwright?

He will almost certainly get a Scranton-centric district which will be more Democratic than his current one, so basically yes.

[Oryxslayer]

Does this help Matt Cartwright?

He will almost certainly get a Scranton-centric district which will be more Democratic than his current one, so basically yes.

As I have said many times... Lakawanna + Luzurne + Monore is 1 perfect seat. This seat voted 2 points less for trump than the current PA-17, and is a EVEN seat rather than R+1. The only downside now is the court has announced some compactness tests, which may mean the ensuing PA-10 formed by this seat is illegal.

[Tintrlvr]

Does this help Matt Cartwright?

He will almost certainly get a Scranton-centric district which will be more Democratic than his current one, so basically yes.

I mean, in any case losing Schuylkill County (which is only in an intended D-pack district because of Tim Holden) would always help Cartwright. I wouldn't be worried about Cartwright even if maps didn't change, though.

[Greedo punched first]

What will PA-07 look like?

[Dr. Arch]

There is some justice left in this world.

[Brittain33]

[GeorgiaModerate]

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Since SCOTUS denied the stay, isn't that the end of it?  Or could they petition for a stay on some other grounds?

[Brittain33]

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Since SCOTUS denied the stay, isn't that the end of it?  Or could they petition for a stay on some other grounds?

It's Pennsylvania Republicans, I'm sure next stop is The Hague

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Big win for democracy!

[Oryxslayer]

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Since SCOTUS denied the stay, isn't that the end of it?  Or could they petition for a stay on some other grounds?

It's Pennsylvania Republicans, I'm sure next stop is The Hague

Before the stay they:

Denied precinct and voter data to the court -  this was a formality, they simply went to the dems. Hell, we use DRA which has similar, albeit old data. 

Called upon one and potentially two of the Dem judges to recuse themselves due to statements made during their judicial campaigns.

Generally called the court order illegal whenever possible.

With only ten days on the clock, one would think that they would refuse to pass any map, and instead dig in their heals and try to deny the court a sense of legitimacy.

[Gass3268]

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Since SCOTUS denied the stay, isn't that the end of it?  Or could they petition for a stay on some other grounds?

It's Pennsylvania Republicans, I'm sure next stop is The Hague

Before the stay they:

Denied precinct and voter data to the court -  this was a formality, they simply went to the dems. Hell, we use DRA which has similar, albeit old data. 

Called upon one and potentially two of the Dem judges to recuse themselves due to statements made during their judicial campaigns.

Generally called the court order illegal whenever possible.

With only ten days on the clock, one would think that they would refuse to pass any map, and instead dig in their heals and try to deny the court a sense of legitimacy.

They've really poisoned the well about possibility working with Democrats in the legislature, Governor Wolf and the Commonwealth Court. They could piss them off to the point where the court tells Professor Nathaniel Persily to draw a map that punishes the Republicans as much as possible while sticking to their original parameters.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

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Since SCOTUS denied the stay, isn't that the end of it?  Or could they petition for a stay on some other grounds?

It's Pennsylvania Republicans, I'm sure next stop is The Hague

Before the stay they:

Denied precinct and voter data to the court -  this was a formality, they simply went to the dems. Hell, we use DRA which has similar, albeit old data. 

Called upon one and potentially two of the Dem judges to recuse themselves due to statements made during their judicial campaigns.

Generally called the court order illegal whenever possible.

With only ten days on the clock, one would think that they would refuse to pass any map, and instead dig in their heals and try to deny the court a sense of legitimacy.

They've really poisoned the well about possibility working with Democrats in the legislature, Governor Wolf and the Commonwealth Court. They could piss them off to the point where the court tells Professor Nathaniel Persily to draw a map that punishes the Republicans as much as possible while sticking to their original parameters.

Not going to happen.

[Adam Griffin]

What will PA-07 look like?

Not like the abortion factory it currently resembles.

I always thought it looked like Goofy getting banged by Japan.

[Tintrlvr]

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Since SCOTUS denied the stay, isn't that the end of it?  Or could they petition for a stay on some other grounds?

They can certainly petition for a stay. Any federal court that isn't completely down the partisan rabbit-hole will deny a stay without issuing an opinion, but they could get lucky and strike a partisan Republican federal judge who throws a bunch of procedural hurdles in the way in order to delay the re-map until it's too late to be effective for 2018. I think that would be quite difficult and require a lot of luck, but it isn't impossible.

[Landslide Lyndon]

What will PA-07 look like?

Not like the abortion factory it currently resembles.

I always thought it looked like Goofy getting banged by Japan.

To me it looked like Japan kicking the Korean peninsula.

[Ebsy]

There is apparently now an effort by Pennsylvania Republicans in the state legislature to impeach the 5 justices that ruled against the gerrymandered maps. Requires a majority in the state house and 2/3 in the state senate, which Republicans have if they all voted together.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Ohio & Michigan next!

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

There is apparently now an effort by Pennsylvania Republicans in the state legislature to impeach the 5 justices that ruled against the gerrymandered maps. Requires a majority in the state house and 2/3 in the state senate, which Republicans have if they all voted together.

Terrible.

This is very anti-democracy.

[Dr. Arch]

There is apparently now an effort by Pennsylvania Republicans in the state legislature to impeach the 5 justices that ruled against the gerrymandered maps. Requires a majority in the state house and 2/3 in the state senate, which Republicans have if they all voted together.

LMAO, is this real? Holy crap.

[DrScholl]

One Republican member of the state house sent out that email, so I'm guessing there isn't a concerted effort to do this just yet.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

There is apparently now an effort by Pennsylvania Republicans in the state legislature to impeach the 5 justices that ruled against the gerrymandered maps. Requires a majority in the state house and 2/3 in the state senate, which Republicans have if they all voted together.

The North Carolina Republican Party says hi

[adrac]

There is apparently now an effort by Pennsylvania Republicans in the state legislature to impeach the 5 justices that ruled against the gerrymandered maps. Requires a majority in the state house and 2/3 in the state senate, which Republicans have if they all voted together.

Absolutely disgusting idea

[KingSweden]

There is apparently now an effort by Pennsylvania Republicans in the state legislature to impeach the 5 justices that ruled against the gerrymandered maps. Requires a majority in the state house and 2/3 in the state senate, which Republicans have if they all voted together.

I have not seen this anywhere on Twitter or on DKE

[Virginiá]

There is apparently now an effort by Pennsylvania Republicans in the state legislature to impeach the 5 justices that ruled against the gerrymandered maps. Requires a majority in the state house and 2/3 in the state senate, which Republicans have if they all voted together.

I have not seen this anywhere on Twitter or on DKE

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/scotus-denies-gop-lawmakers-attempt-to-delay-drawing-new-congressional-map-20180205.html

https://twitter.com/normative/status/960683507587670016




Scary. FWIW, it would take practically every Republican Senator to vote to remove them, and I'm not yet convinced they can make that happen. Impeaching judges for ruling against a brazenly gerrymandered map is a big f'ing deal.