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[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

While we're on the subject, I'm fairly certain Mr. Reactionary's vote is also invalid, per the federal Voting Rights Amendment:

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*This is not a ballot*

Note: I'm listed as blackraisin

SOUTHERN GOVERNOR

Diptheriadan - 1
Peebs - 2
Harry Truman - 3
The Commie - 4


SOUTHERN CHAMBER OF DELEGATES

Blackraisin - 1
TimTurner - 2
Fairbol - 3
Lechasseur - 4
Saint - 5
Weatherboy - 6
Razze - 7

[Sestak]

JustinTimeCuber's vote (though Peebs says she's counting it) is technically also invalid because he never specified what race he was voting in despite the instructions mandating that.

Doesn't affect the legislative race though.

[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

While we're on the subject, I'm fairly certain Mr. Reactionary's vote is also invalid, per the federal Voting Rights Amendment:

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*This is not a ballot*

Note: I'm listed as blackraisin

SOUTHERN GOVERNOR

Diptheriadan - 1
Peebs - 2
Harry Truman - 3
The Commie - 4


SOUTHERN CHAMBER OF DELEGATES

Blackraisin - 1
TimTurner - 2
Fairbol - 3
Lechasseur - 4
Saint - 5
Weatherboy - 6
Razze - 7

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

JustinTimeCuber's vote (though Peebs says she's counting it) is technically also invalid because he never specified what race he was voting in despite the instructions mandating that.

Unless those instructions are backed up by statute, they're considered friendly suggestions from a legal standpoint.

[Trans Rights Are Human Rights]

Damn, I knew this would be a whopper to certify, but not to this extent.

[Mr. Reactionary]

While we're on the subject, I'm fairly certain Mr. Reactionary's vote is also invalid, per the federal Voting Rights Amendment:

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I am not sure where the section you cited is coming from. The constitution listed in the Library of Congress does not contain that provision. See below.

Fourth Constitution of the Republic of Atlasia - Article I (Bill of Rights)

Section 4. The right of citizens of the Republic of Atlasia to vote shall not be denied, except in regards to persons whose account is fewer than 168 hours old, or in consequence of failing to meet such requirements for activity as may be established by law.

Section 5. No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=248983.msg5327786#msg5327786

I relied on an official published constitution, which does not contain the limitation you mention. To invalidate the unambiguous vote of a voter merely for having earlier pointed out an error in the ballot which has previously cost me votes  (therefore denying me the ability to redress that injury) when the official published constitution in the Library of Congress does not prohibit me from doing so, is an affront to democracy. The intent of the voter was clear. The constitution held out by Atlasia as the law of the land in the library of congress does not say I cannot point out an error with the ballot, especially when I expressly denoted that a ballot was not being cast at the time. It is unconscionable to disenfranchise me when the Library of Congress does not report this clearly unfair rule which again, may not exist. How would I know when the official published constitution in the Library of Congress states otherwise? If I am disenfranchised, lawsuit will be forthcoming.

[Trans Rights Are Human Rights]

I am not sure where the section you cited is coming from.

This would be the amendment Truman is citing.

[Mr. Reactionary]

I am not sure where the section you cited is coming from.

This would be the amendment Truman is citing.

That thread reports a constitutional amendment on june 22nd, 2017 and yet the Library of Congress was updated as late as October 2nd, 2017 without this  alleged amendment being recorded (interestingly enough by the person claiming this alleged amendment disenfranchises me despite him not bothering to update the official copy of the Constitution of record in the library of congress). This really is a due process issue, as I reasonably relied on an official government interpretation of law. And not just AN official interpretation, THE official interpretation held out by the government.

[wxtransit]

*popcorn finished in the microwave*

[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

# J u s t i c e F o r R e a c t i o n a r y

[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

@Peebs:

Does Tim's vote count?

Technically, he was filling out his ballot when polls close, and "When you're in line (or in the process of voting) when polls close, your vote counts".

This stands out to me. It's obviously true in real life, but does the same principle of "if you're in line" count in Atlasian elections?

[Trans Rights Are Human Rights]

@Peebs:

Does Tim's vote count?

Technically, he was filling out his ballot when polls close, and "When you're in line (or in the process of voting) when polls close, your vote counts".

This stands out to me. It's obviously true in real life, but does the same principle of "if you're in line" count in Atlasian elections?

Well, I wasn't planning on counting him, no.

[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

@Peebs:

Does Tim's vote count?

Technically, he was filling out his ballot when polls close, and "When you're in line (or in the process of voting) when polls close, your vote counts".

This stands out to me. It's obviously true in real life, but does the same principle of "if you're in line" count in Atlasian elections?

Well, I wasn't planning on counting him, no.

# J u s t i c e F o r T i m

[Mr. Reactionary]

@Peebs:

Does Tim's vote count?

Technically, he was filling out his ballot when polls close, and "When you're in line (or in the process of voting) when polls close, your vote counts".

This stands out to me. It's obviously true in real life, but does the same principle of "if you're in line" count in Atlasian elections?

Well, I wasn't planning on counting him, no.

What if he argues that he clicked submit prior to midnight but then  the computer pinwheeled for 34 seconds. Sometimes Atlas submissions can take so long to load for me, that I have to switch tabs and do something else for a while. Given that a voter posted an unambiguous ballot at midnight  (within the minute), 34 seconds of laggy internet should not disenfranchise that voter.

[wxtransit]

@Peebs:

Does Tim's vote count?

Technically, he was filling out his ballot when polls close, and "When you're in line (or in the process of voting) when polls close, your vote counts".

This stands out to me. It's obviously true in real life, but does the same principle of "if you're in line" count in Atlasian elections?

Well, I wasn't planning on counting him, no.

What if he argues that he clicked submit prior to midnight but then  the computer pinwheeled for 34 seconds. Sometimes Atlas submissions can take so long to load for me, that I have to switch tabs and do something else for a while. Given that a voter posted an unambiguous ballot at midnight  (within the minute), 34 seconds of laggy internet should not disenfranchise that voter.

I can confirm.

[Trans Rights Are Human Rights]

@Peebs:

Does Tim's vote count?

Technically, he was filling out his ballot when polls close, and "When you're in line (or in the process of voting) when polls close, your vote counts".

This stands out to me. It's obviously true in real life, but does the same principle of "if you're in line" count in Atlasian elections?

Well, I wasn't planning on counting him, no.

What if he argues that he clicked submit prior to midnight but then  the computer pinwheeled for 34 seconds. Sometimes Atlas submissions can take so long to load for me, that I have to switch tabs and do something else for a while. Given that a voter posted an unambiguous ballot at midnight  (within the minute), 34 seconds of laggy internet should not disenfranchise that voter.

I can confirm.

Me too, but I don't think I can retroactively extend the deadline by a minute. Maybe if the extension becomes statute...

[wxtransit]

@Peebs:

Does Tim's vote count?

Technically, he was filling out his ballot when polls close, and "When you're in line (or in the process of voting) when polls close, your vote counts".

This stands out to me. It's obviously true in real life, but does the same principle of "if you're in line" count in Atlasian elections?

Well, I wasn't planning on counting him, no.

What if he argues that he clicked submit prior to midnight but then  the computer pinwheeled for 34 seconds. Sometimes Atlas submissions can take so long to load for me, that I have to switch tabs and do something else for a while. Given that a voter posted an unambiguous ballot at midnight  (within the minute), 34 seconds of laggy internet should not disenfranchise that voter.

I can confirm.

Me too, but I don't think I can retroactively extend the deadline by a minute. Maybe if the extension becomes statute...

I thought the deadline already was at the end of the 12:00 minute. Welp.

[Trans Rights Are Human Rights]

Preemptive calculations have both the Saint and Mr. R elected at quota (thus no redistribution), with Tim and Chardee being eliminated. DTC and Bagel tie for last, with exactly four votes each (Other candidates, with 5, are presumably elected without quota). Not sure what the procedure is here.

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Preemptive calculations have both the Saint and Mr. R elected at quota (thus no redistribution), with Tim and Chardee being eliminated. DTC and Bagel tie for last, with exactly four votes each (Other candidates, with 5, are presumably elected without quota). Not sure what the procedure is here.

So TheSaint, Mr. R, Lechasseur, Razze, Weatherboy, and Fairboi are elected?

[Trans Rights Are Human Rights]

Preemptive calculations have both the Saint and Mr. R elected at quota (thus no redistribution), with Tim and Chardee being eliminated. DTC and Bagel tie for last, with exactly four votes each (Other candidates, with 5, are presumably elected without quota). Not sure what the procedure is here.

So TheSaint, Mr. R, Lechasseur, Razze, Weatherboy, and Fairboi are elected?

Well, not Fairboi, per se.

[Mr. Reactionary]

@Peebs:

Does Tim's vote count?

Technically, he was filling out his ballot when polls close, and "When you're in line (or in the process of voting) when polls close, your vote counts".

This stands out to me. It's obviously true in real life, but does the same principle of "if you're in line" count in Atlasian elections?

Well, I wasn't planning on counting him, no.

What if he argues that he clicked submit prior to midnight but then  the computer pinwheeled for 34 seconds. Sometimes Atlas submissions can take so long to load for me, that I have to switch tabs and do something else for a while. Given that a voter posted an unambiguous ballot at midnight  (within the minute), 34 seconds of laggy internet should not disenfranchise that voter.

I can confirm.

Me too, but I don't think I can retroactively extend the deadline by a minute. Maybe if the extension becomes statute...

It wont be retroactive if in your interpretation midnight means the minute midnight. With such little guidance, you are clearly entitled to some interpretative discretion provided you are not arbitrarily disqualifying votes. I would argue that it is within your existing power to accept my vote as well as Tim's.

[wxtransit]

Preemptive calculations have both the Saint and Mr. R elected at quota (thus no redistribution), with Tim and Chardee being eliminated. DTC and Bagel tie for last, with exactly four votes each (Other candidates, with 5, are presumably elected without quota). Not sure what the procedure is here.

EVERYONE FREAK OUT.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Preemptive calculations have both the Saint and Mr. R elected at quota (thus no redistribution), with Tim and Chardee being eliminated. DTC and Bagel tie for last, with exactly four votes each (Other candidates, with 5, are presumably elected without quota). Not sure what the procedure is here.

EVERYONE FREAK OUT.

For what it is worth, I concede the seat. I have lost, and I also do not deserve this seat as of now after everything. Hopefully this will further show that I am truly sorry and promise to change .

Also congrats to all those who were elected, and I wish you all the best of luck.

[wxtransit]

Preemptive calculations have both the Saint and Mr. R elected at quota (thus no redistribution), with Tim and Chardee being eliminated. DTC and Bagel tie for last, with exactly four votes each (Other candidates, with 5, are presumably elected without quota). Not sure what the procedure is here.

EVERYONE FREAK OUT.

For what it is worth, I concede the seat. I have lost, and I also do not deserve this seat as of now after everything. Hopefully this will further show that I am truly sorry and promise to change .

Also congrats to all those who were elected, and I wish you all the best of luck.

I wouldn't concede yet. You're tied with DTC. What I was saying was not in relation to your potential election, but in relation to the closeness of the race for control of the Chamber.