Trump bans transgenders from military service

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I'd be curious to know if there are more transpeople in the military or people who are uncomfortable with transpeople in the military. Those figures ought to be sought out.

[Comrade Funk]

Other countries laugh at us for fighting over things like this. This is <1% of the population we're talking about here.

So what? 0.001% of our population died on 9/11 and it dominated our national discussion for years. <1% of the population matters.

That was an attack on civilians by terrorists, not government policy that affects a tiny minority of people.

So we shouldn't care that a minority is being discriminated against?

[henster]

It's all politics Trump will try to reignite the culture wars in 18/20. Bush campaign did the same in 2004.

[kyc0705]

Other countries laugh at us for fighting over things like this. This is <1% of the population we're talking about here.

So what? 0.001% of our population died on 9/11 and it dominated our national discussion for years. <1% of the population matters.

That was an attack on civilians by terrorists, not government policy that affects a tiny minority of people.

So we shouldn't care that a minority is being discriminated against?

Apparently only the majorities, the so-called "regular people," matter.

[Person Man]

It's all politics Trump will try to reignite the culture wars in 18/20. Bush campaign did the same in 2004.

Probably this. This and an actual war was enough for Bush in 02/04.

[Comrade Funk]

Don't read comments under news articles regarding this. It's filled with hate filled alt-right bigots.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Other countries laugh at us for fighting over things like this. This is <1% of the population we're talking about here.

So what? 0.001% of our population died on 9/11 and it dominated our national discussion for years. <1% of the population matters.

That was an attack on civilians by terrorists, not government policy that affects a tiny minority of people.

So we shouldn't care that a minority is being discriminated against?

Apparently only the majorities, the so-called "regular people," matter.

See this is the problem though. Why we absolutely should accommodate transpeople in the military, there are people who are discomforted by it. They are soldiers too. Why can't their concerns for once be heard instead of being dismissed? There are far more of them than trans. Being trans doesn't make you special. You shouldn't get a medal for it. And it definitely shouldn't be grounds for a ban.

[JA]

Trump admits he's using transgenders as a campaign prop:

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Just the GOP being bigots as usual

Emily Nussbaum compared it to Bush bringing up gay marriage in 2004.

There are likely some similarities. I can already see where Trump and the GOP are heading with these culture war issues; they're remaking the temporarily successful culture wars of the Bush Administration, albeit in a different form. They want to force Democrats into campaigning on Transgender issues and Muslim immigration, which they believe could hurt them in competitive states and districts.

[Comrade Funk]

Other countries laugh at us for fighting over things like this. This is <1% of the population we're talking about here.

So what? 0.001% of our population died on 9/11 and it dominated our national discussion for years. <1% of the population matters.

That was an attack on civilians by terrorists, not government policy that affects a tiny minority of people.

So we shouldn't care that a minority is being discriminated against?

Apparently only the majorities, the so-called "regular people," matter.

See this is the problem though. Why we absolutely should accommodate transpeople in the military, there are people who are discomforted by it. They are soldiers too. Why can't their concerns for once be heard instead of being dismissed? There are far more of them than trans. Being trans doesn't make you special. You shouldn't get a medal for it. And it definitely shouldn't be grounds for a ban.

There were soldiers uncomfortable serving with blacks too. What's your point? If you don't want to serve with and represent all Americans, get out.

[JA]

Other countries laugh at us for fighting over things like this. This is <1% of the population we're talking about here.

Good point. They're only <1% of the population, so why craft bathroom bills and transphobic rules for military service that explicitly targets such a tiny minority of the population? Let people continue to use whatever bathroom they want and allow the military to screen for recruits on a person-by-person basis. There. Problem solved.

[kyc0705]

Other countries laugh at us for fighting over things like this. This is <1% of the population we're talking about here.

So what? 0.001% of our population died on 9/11 and it dominated our national discussion for years. <1% of the population matters.

That was an attack on civilians by terrorists, not government policy that affects a tiny minority of people.

So we shouldn't care that a minority is being discriminated against?

Apparently only the majorities, the so-called "regular people," matter.

See this is the problem though. Why we absolutely should accommodate transpeople in the military, there are people who are discomforted by it. They are soldiers too. Why can't their concerns for once be heard instead of being dismissed? There are far more of them than trans. Being trans doesn't make you special. You shouldn't get a medal for it. And it definitely shouldn't be grounds for a ban.

Nobody's asking for trans people to get an award just for being transgender. We just want them to have the same opportunities that every other American has, and that includes the choice to serve their country in the military. 69 years ago today, Harry Truman signed the executive order which de-segregated the armed forces. People were uncomfortable with that, too. But guess what? They got over it.

[Devout Centrist]

Other countries laugh at us for fighting over things like this. This is <1% of the population we're talking about here.

So what? 0.001% of our population died on 9/11 and it dominated our national discussion for years. <1% of the population matters.

That was an attack on civilians by terrorists, not government policy that affects a tiny minority of people.

So we shouldn't care that a minority is being discriminated against?

Apparently only the majorities, the so-called "regular people," matter.

See this is the problem though. Why we absolutely should accommodate transpeople in the military, there are people who are discomforted by it. They are soldiers too. Why can't their concerns for once be heard instead of being dismissed? There are far more of them than trans. Being trans doesn't make you special. You shouldn't get a medal for it. And it definitely shouldn't be grounds for a ban.

If that makes you uncomfortable, how could you possibly make a tough decision under fire?

[Brittain33]

I'd be curious to know if there are more transpeople in the military or people who are uncomfortable with transpeople in the military. Those figures ought to be sought out.

True! It would also be helpful to know if there are more Jews in the military or people who are uncomfortable with Jews who serve in the military, too. I bet that would be eye-opening.

[7,052,770]

I'd be curious to know if there are more transpeople in the military or people who are uncomfortable with transpeople in the military. Those figures ought to be sought out.

It's obviously the latter but who cares?

There are probably more people who are racist against Australian Aborigines in the military than people of native Australian descent. Should we kick them all out too?

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Other countries laugh at us for fighting over things like this. This is <1% of the population we're talking about here.

So what? 0.001% of our population died on 9/11 and it dominated our national discussion for years. <1% of the population matters.

That was an attack on civilians by terrorists, not government policy that affects a tiny minority of people.

So we shouldn't care that a minority is being discriminated against?

Apparently only the majorities, the so-called "regular people," matter.

See this is the problem though. Why we absolutely should accommodate transpeople in the military, there are people who are discomforted by it. They are soldiers too. Why can't their concerns for once be heard instead of being dismissed? There are far more of them than trans. Being trans doesn't make you special. You shouldn't get a medal for it. And it definitely shouldn't be grounds for a ban.

If that makes you uncomfortable, how could you possibly make a tough decision under fire?

How many transpeople are actually physically and mentally fit? Serious question. Is the ban justified overall? No, but this has more to do with the professional whiners than the professional soldiers it effects.

[Brittain33]

Gov. McCrory commends the politics of this tweet.

[Devout Centrist]

Other countries laugh at us for fighting over things like this. This is <1% of the population we're talking about here.

So what? 0.001% of our population died on 9/11 and it dominated our national discussion for years. <1% of the population matters.

That was an attack on civilians by terrorists, not government policy that affects a tiny minority of people.

So we shouldn't care that a minority is being discriminated against?

Apparently only the majorities, the so-called "regular people," matter.

See this is the problem though. Why we absolutely should accommodate transpeople in the military, there are people who are discomforted by it. They are soldiers too. Why can't their concerns for once be heard instead of being dismissed? There are far more of them than trans. Being trans doesn't make you special. You shouldn't get a medal for it. And it definitely shouldn't be grounds for a ban.

If that makes you uncomfortable, how could you possibly make a tough decision under fire?

How many transpeople are actually physically and mentally fit? Serious question. Is the ban justified overall? No, but this has more to do with the professional whiners than the professional soldiers it effects.

Plenty, hardly different than the general population. I find it hilarious catering to the feelings of a few pathetic soldiers matters more to you than members of the military who have earned their spot there.

But then again, all you ever do is apologize for Trump

[kyc0705]

Other countries laugh at us for fighting over things like this. This is <1% of the population we're talking about here.

So what? 0.001% of our population died on 9/11 and it dominated our national discussion for years. <1% of the population matters.

That was an attack on civilians by terrorists, not government policy that affects a tiny minority of people.

So we shouldn't care that a minority is being discriminated against?

Apparently only the majorities, the so-called "regular people," matter.

See this is the problem though. Why we absolutely should accommodate transpeople in the military, there are people who are discomforted by it. They are soldiers too. Why can't their concerns for once be heard instead of being dismissed? There are far more of them than trans. Being trans doesn't make you special. You shouldn't get a medal for it. And it definitely shouldn't be grounds for a ban.

If that makes you uncomfortable, how could you possibly make a tough decision under fire?

How many transpeople are actually physically and mentally fit? Serious question. Is the ban justified overall? No, but this has more to do with the professional whiners than the professional soldiers it effects.

I'm positively astounded by the fact that you explicitly state you do not support this move, but can't bring yourself to criticize Trump, ever.

[Fight for Trump]

Other countries laugh at us for fighting over things like this. This is <1% of the population we're talking about here.

Good point. They're only <1% of the population, so why craft bathroom bills and transphobic rules for military service that explicitly targets such a tiny minority of the population? Let people continue to use whatever bathroom they want and allow the military to screen for recruits on a person-by-person basis. There. Problem solved.

I think bathroom bills are a waste of time that paralyze state governments from doing more important work. I oppose such bills being introduced out of nowhere, but HB-2 was a unique case in response to a Charlotte city ordinance that got the ball rolling. Private businesses should be free to have whatever configuration of bathroom facilities they please, as long as they meet health and safety standards.

[emailking]

Other countries laugh at us for fighting over things like this. This is <1% of the population we're talking about here.

So what? 0.001% of our population died on 9/11 and it dominated our national discussion for years. <1% of the population matters.

That was an attack on civilians by terrorists, not government policy that affects a tiny minority of people.

And? That's not relevant to my point.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

It's all politics Trump will try to reignite the culture wars in 18/20. Bush campaign did the same in 2004.

Probably this. This and an actual war was enough for Bush in 02/04.

Yes, let's dispel with the fiction Trump's Presidency is not a logical consequence of Dubya's Presidency.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Other countries laugh at us for fighting over things like this. This is <1% of the population we're talking about here.

So what? 0.001% of our population died on 9/11 and it dominated our national discussion for years. <1% of the population matters.

That was an attack on civilians by terrorists, not government policy that affects a tiny minority of people.

So we shouldn't care that a minority is being discriminated against?

Apparently only the majorities, the so-called "regular people," matter.

See this is the problem though. Why we absolutely should accommodate transpeople in the military, there are people who are discomforted by it. They are soldiers too. Why can't their concerns for once be heard instead of being dismissed? There are far more of them than trans. Being trans doesn't make you special. You shouldn't get a medal for it. And it definitely shouldn't be grounds for a ban.

If that makes you uncomfortable, how could you possibly make a tough decision under fire?

How many transpeople are actually physically and mentally fit? Serious question. Is the ban justified overall? No, but this has more to do with the professional whiners than the professional soldiers it effects.

I'm positively astounded by the fact that you explicitly state you do not support this move, but can't bring yourself to criticize Trump, ever.

You think Rubio or Cruz wouldn't have done this?

[kyc0705]

Other countries laugh at us for fighting over things like this. This is <1% of the population we're talking about here.

So what? 0.001% of our population died on 9/11 and it dominated our national discussion for years. <1% of the population matters.

That was an attack on civilians by terrorists, not government policy that affects a tiny minority of people.

So we shouldn't care that a minority is being discriminated against?

Apparently only the majorities, the so-called "regular people," matter.

See this is the problem though. Why we absolutely should accommodate transpeople in the military, there are people who are discomforted by it. They are soldiers too. Why can't their concerns for once be heard instead of being dismissed? There are far more of them than trans. Being trans doesn't make you special. You shouldn't get a medal for it. And it definitely shouldn't be grounds for a ban.

If that makes you uncomfortable, how could you possibly make a tough decision under fire?

How many transpeople are actually physically and mentally fit? Serious question. Is the ban justified overall? No, but this has more to do with the professional whiners than the professional soldiers it effects.

I'm positively astounded by the fact that you explicitly state you do not support this move, but can't bring yourself to criticize Trump, ever.

You think Rubio or Cruz wouldn't have done this?

Not only will you not criticize Trump, you seem reluctant to even bring the subject of it up for discussion.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Other countries laugh at us for fighting over things like this. This is <1% of the population we're talking about here.

Good point. They're only <1% of the population, so why craft bathroom bills and transphobic rules for military service that explicitly targets such a tiny minority of the population? Let people continue to use whatever bathroom they want and allow the military to screen for recruits on a person-by-person basis. There. Problem solved.

Yeah, the number is so small that even without this ban I doubt 95% of soldiers would have had any interaction with trans troops. There would have been substantially more disruption from desegregation or even the repeal of DADT.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Other countries laugh at us for fighting over things like this. This is <1% of the population we're talking about here.

So what? 0.001% of our population died on 9/11 and it dominated our national discussion for years. <1% of the population matters.

That was an attack on civilians by terrorists, not government policy that affects a tiny minority of people.

So we shouldn't care that a minority is being discriminated against?

Apparently only the majorities, the so-called "regular people," matter.

See this is the problem though. Why we absolutely should accommodate transpeople in the military, there are people who are discomforted by it. They are soldiers too. Why can't their concerns for once be heard instead of being dismissed? There are far more of them than trans. Being trans doesn't make you special. You shouldn't get a medal for it. And it definitely shouldn't be grounds for a ban.

If that makes you uncomfortable, how could you possibly make a tough decision under fire?

How many transpeople are actually physically and mentally fit? Serious question. Is the ban justified overall? No, but this has more to do with the professional whiners than the professional soldiers it effects.

I'm positively astounded by the fact that you explicitly state you do not support this move, but can't bring yourself to criticize Trump, ever.

You think Rubio or Cruz wouldn't have done this?

Not only will you not criticize Trump, you seem reluctant to even bring the subject of it up for discussion.

I criticized the ban. What should I do, vote for Hillary because I sympathize with a few transpeople? Jesus lol.