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« Reply #1225 on: October 01, 2018, 08:59:53 AM »

I don't like O'Rourke.  For one thing, he reminds me of Ted Kennedy (one of the four Democrats from my home state whose name I practically use as a profanity), and his having a drunk driving accident which he tried to flee doesn't help with that.  For another thing, there are plenty of issues where I agree with liberal Democrats and on which a Senate candidate should have a position; so when I contacted his campaign for positions on those issues trying to persuade myself to vote for him and it turned out he had no position on them, I felt that he is either evasive or unprofessional. 

Then finally, he advocated banning AR-15s, and that was the straw that I thought decided me for Dikeman.   Now, I am quite moderate on gun control: I support background checks and high-capacity magazine bans and don't believe the Second Amendment protects an individual right to firearms, and think Wayne LaPierre is a horrible excuse for a human being.  But whenever a Democrat proposes banning one of the most popular firearms, and one which is not an outsized contributor to gun deaths, because it was used in one high-profile shooting and no one technically "needs" one, it tells me that they have not made even the slightest effort to understand gun culture.  And this makes me wonder if O'Rourke is going to be any better about trying to understand people who disagree with him than Cruz is: I feel like the answer to that question is probably "no."

The Kavanaugh hearings, however, have persuaded me that I need to vote for O'Rourke; I've finally come around to George Will's argument that Trump and his cadre of enablers need to be defeated no matter what.  Now, I don't know how many people like me there are: I am atypical of a Texas voter, and probably even atypical of a college-educated white Texas voter who moved here from a blue state: I suspect that most people who hated Cruz and normally vote were planning on voting for O'Rourke anyways.  But I am sure that there are a lot of people who are as jaded as I was and dealt with it by staying home.  I sincerely hope that the Kavanaugh hearings might have jolted enough of them out of complacency to make a difference.

I also remember with both Massachusetts in 2010 and Alabama in 2017, being sure that the state was going to elect an absolutely appalling canddiate because they had the right letter next to their name.  In both 2010 and 2017, I was pleasantly surprised.  I wouldn't say that Cruz himself is as personally reprehensible as Coakley or Moore, but in seeking to promote Kavanaugh he is attempting to install a nakedly partisan conspiracy theorist, shameless perjurer, and probable sexual predator to a lifetime position far more powerful than a mere Senate seat.  Texas isn't as red as Alabama, nor as red as Massachusetts is blue, and the polls have had Cruz only very slightly ahead.  I am therefore cautiously optimistic that the Kavanaugh hearings will lend Texas voters enough moral clarity to evict Cruz from his seat.



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« Reply #1226 on: October 01, 2018, 10:10:42 AM »

I don't like O'Rourke.  For one thing, he reminds me of Ted Kennedy (one of the four Democrats from my home state whose name I practically use as a profanity), and his having a drunk driving accident which he tried to flee doesn't help with that.  For another thing, there are plenty of issues where I agree with liberal Democrats and on which a Senate candidate should have a position; so when I contacted his campaign for positions on those issues trying to persuade myself to vote for him and it turned out he had no position on them, I felt that he is either evasive or unprofessional. 

Then finally, he advocated banning AR-15s, and that was the straw that I thought decided me for Dikeman.   Now, I am quite moderate on gun control: I support background checks and high-capacity magazine bans and don't believe the Second Amendment protects an individual right to firearms, and think Wayne LaPierre is a horrible excuse for a human being.  But whenever a Democrat proposes banning one of the most popular firearms, and one which is not an outsized contributor to gun deaths, because it was used in one high-profile shooting and no one technically "needs" one, it tells me that they have not made even the slightest effort to understand gun culture.  And this makes me wonder if O'Rourke is going to be any better about trying to understand people who disagree with him than Cruz is: I feel like the answer to that question is probably "no."

The Kavanaugh hearings, however, have persuaded me that I need to vote for O'Rourke; I've finally come around to George Will's argument that Trump and his cadre of enablers need to be defeated no matter what.  Now, I don't know how many people like me there are: I am atypical of a Texas voter, and probably even atypical of a college-educated white Texas voter who moved here from a blue state: I suspect that most people who hated Cruz and normally vote were planning on voting for O'Rourke anyways.  But I am sure that there are a lot of people who are as jaded as I was and dealt with it by staying home.  I sincerely hope that the Kavanaugh hearings might have jolted enough of them out of complacency to make a difference.

I also remember with both Massachusetts in 2010 and Alabama in 2017, being sure that the state was going to elect an absolutely appalling canddiate because they had the right letter next to their name.  In both 2010 and 2017, I was pleasantly surprised.  I wouldn't say that Cruz himself is as personally reprehensible as Coakley or Moore, but in seeking to promote Kavanaugh he is attempting to install a nakedly partisan conspiracy theorist, shameless perjurer, and probable sexual predator to a lifetime position far more powerful than a mere Senate seat.  Texas isn't as red as Alabama, nor as red as Massachusetts is blue, and the polls have had Cruz only very slightly ahead.  I am therefore cautiously optimistic that the Kavanaugh hearings will lend Texas voters enough moral clarity to evict Cruz from his seat.



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« Reply #1227 on: October 01, 2018, 10:53:47 PM »

Texas Senate candidate Beto O'Rourke apologized for once writing a critical review of a Broadway musical in his college newspaper that said the actresses' "only qualifications seem to be their phenomenally large breasts and tight buttocks"

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« Reply #1228 on: October 01, 2018, 10:58:04 PM »


Eh, it's not a good look, but totally unsurprising for a college kid. I've heard worse from my guy and girl friends and I'm sure the same could be said for a large majority of the country.
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« Reply #1229 on: October 02, 2018, 12:11:32 AM »


That's... Not great. I'd say it was a poorly worded way of saying the actresses were picked for their looks rather than talent, but even that's a rather harsh thing to say. However I think the fact that he apologized shows character. None of us are perfect, and the measure of a politician should be how we react to our imperfections being aired in public.
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« Reply #1230 on: October 02, 2018, 12:14:48 AM »


I expected more from you Beto.
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« Reply #1231 on: October 02, 2018, 12:32:07 AM »


Who care

I can come across a number of actresses who bring nothing to a movie/performance beyond being attractive
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« Reply #1232 on: October 02, 2018, 03:23:35 AM »


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« Reply #1233 on: October 02, 2018, 06:05:21 AM »


Not a great look, but unlikely to move the needle.
If anyone thinks this helps Cruz, I’d remind you that the Senator (or a hapless intern) liked a porn video on his official twitter account, and that did nothing to affect his standing.
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« Reply #1234 on: October 02, 2018, 04:12:22 PM »


Not a great look, but unlikely to move the needle.
If anyone thinks this helps Cruz, I’d remind you that the Senator (or a hapless intern) liked a porn video on his official twitter account, and that did nothing to affect his standing.

You're forgetting about the mindbogglingly huge moral double-standard that Democrats face in America, especially in red states.
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« Reply #1235 on: October 02, 2018, 04:16:47 PM »


Not a great look, but unlikely to move the needle.
If anyone thinks this helps Cruz, I’d remind you that the Senator (or a hapless intern) liked a porn video on his official twitter account, and that did nothing to affect his standing.

You're forgetting about the mindbogglingly huge moral double-standard that Democrats face in America, especially in red states.

Whataboutism can be convenient for dems too.
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« Reply #1236 on: October 02, 2018, 04:24:59 PM »


Well, there is such a concept as T&A for describing how some casting is done. Some theater-goers are perfectly happy with the result.

 
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« Reply #1237 on: October 02, 2018, 06:10:50 PM »

That is a non-story.

Sounds like Beto was simply accusing the musical group directors of sexist hiring practices/objectifying women. Such groups that engage in sexist hiring practices/objectifying women deserve to be called out for it, and criticized.
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« Reply #1238 on: October 03, 2018, 03:17:09 AM »


Not a great look, but unlikely to move the needle.
If anyone thinks this helps Cruz, I’d remind you that the Senator (or a hapless intern) liked a porn video on his official twitter account, and that did nothing to affect his standing.

You're forgetting about the mindbogglingly huge moral double-standard that Democrats face in America, especially in red states.
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« Reply #1239 on: October 03, 2018, 05:58:58 AM »

That is a non-story.

Sounds like Beto was simply accusing the musical group directors of sexist hiring practices/objectifying women. Such groups that engage in sexist hiring practices/objectifying women deserve to be called out for it, and criticized.
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« Reply #1240 on: October 03, 2018, 08:37:43 AM »


Not a great look, but unlikely to move the needle.
If anyone thinks this helps Cruz, I’d remind you that the Senator (or a hapless intern) liked a porn video on his official twitter account, and that did nothing to affect his standing.

Agreed. However I can see this can hurt Beto’s standing for women when it comes to attacking Ted Cruz for voting for Kavanaugh.
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« Reply #1241 on: October 03, 2018, 08:44:58 AM »

Fake Ad Claiming Iran’s President Endorsed Beto O’Rourke Is Pulled From Production:
A neoconservative group appears to be behind a listing recruiting voice actors to pretend to be President Rouhani in an effort to portray him as backing the Texas Democrat.
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« Reply #1242 on: October 03, 2018, 09:18:52 AM »

Is it just me or have there been a lot more "fake" ads and operations in this Senate election vs. others? Or is it just that we don't hear about them?
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« Reply #1243 on: October 03, 2018, 09:20:27 AM »


Not a great look, but unlikely to move the needle.
If anyone thinks this helps Cruz, I’d remind you that the Senator (or a hapless intern) liked a porn video on his official twitter account, and that did nothing to affect his standing.

You're forgetting about the mindbogglingly huge moral double-standard that Democrats face in America, especially in red states.
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« Reply #1244 on: October 03, 2018, 01:49:21 PM »

Not sure how this compares to past debates in Texas, but Telemundo and Univision finished first and second respectively in the ratings for last debate:

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« Reply #1245 on: October 03, 2018, 01:56:20 PM »

Not sure how this compares to past debates in Texas, but Telemundo and Univision finished first and second respectively in the ratings for last debate:



That is pretty impressive, especially because the Spanish-speaking population skews young, and this is for age 35+.
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« Reply #1246 on: October 03, 2018, 08:06:25 PM »


Not a great look, but unlikely to move the needle.
If anyone thinks this helps Cruz, I’d remind you that the Senator (or a hapless intern) liked a porn video on his official twitter account, and that did nothing to affect his standing.

You're forgetting about the mindbogglingly huge moral double-standard that Democrats face in America, especially in red states.
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« Reply #1247 on: October 03, 2018, 08:43:01 PM »

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/03/us/politics/mcconnell-senate-judiciary-supreme-court.html

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Take that FWIW.

(I'm super angry that I clicked on a NYT article that I didn't want to read).
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« Reply #1248 on: October 03, 2018, 08:59:16 PM »

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/03/us/politics/mcconnell-senate-judiciary-supreme-court.html

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Take that FWIW.

(I'm super angry that I clicked on a NYT article that I didn't want to read).

Just open it in incognito mode (or the equivalent on your phone/computer) and you get around the paywall.
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« Reply #1249 on: October 05, 2018, 11:12:30 PM »

https://www.therealbeto.com/ lol
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