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« Reply #475 on: September 28, 2018, 09:43:26 PM »


I know. I’m a Hoosier too. The L-NC is still up because I’m thinking of my friends down there who have been dealing with the aftermath of Florence. I still would rather have Stutzman than Braun or Silent Joe hence my expression.
I'm voting for Joe solely due to dissatisfaction with Trump, not to mention Boring Braun hasn't given me a reason to vote for him.


Why not the libertarian? I can’t vote Donnelly on principle.
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« Reply #476 on: September 28, 2018, 11:51:25 PM »


I know. I’m a Hoosier too. The L-NC is still up because I’m thinking of my friends down there who have been dealing with the aftermath of Florence. I still would rather have Stutzman than Braun or Silent Joe hence my expression.
I'm voting for Joe solely due to dissatisfaction with Trump, not to mention Boring Braun hasn't given me a reason to vote for him.


Why not the libertarian? I can’t vote Donnelly on principle.
I love Lucy (pardon the pun, lol), but Trump is too out of control and needs to be held accountable.
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« Reply #477 on: September 29, 2018, 01:36:17 AM »

Let's not forget Indiana is a state where the Dem base is important, and not giving them any reason at all to stay home is a good idea for Donnelly. Tossup -> Tossup.

This is a great point. Indiana is not North Dakota or West Virginia, there's a sizable Dem base in the state (Indianapolis, Gary, and South Bend proper) that Donnelly needs to get high turnout from if he wants to win. Donnelly needs all the crossover support he can get, and he needs to do that to win, but without the base he's pretty much DOA.
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« Reply #478 on: September 29, 2018, 02:43:15 AM »

1.) Unless you have data specific to Indiana that it will cost Donnelly more votes than it gains you’re just screwing unsubstantiated crap.

2.) National fundraising matters- this keeps a lot of money flowing into his campaign.

3.) Senators should vote their gut- there’s no point being in politics if you’re never going to do anything you actually believe in.
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« Reply #479 on: September 29, 2018, 08:32:53 AM »


I know. I’m a Hoosier too. The L-NC is still up because I’m thinking of my friends down there who have been dealing with the aftermath of Florence. I still would rather have Stutzman than Braun or Silent Joe hence my expression.
I'm voting for Joe solely due to dissatisfaction with Trump, not to mention Boring Braun hasn't given me a reason to vote for him.


Why not the libertarian? I can’t vote Donnelly on principle.

Please reconsider. Trump is so out of control at this point that he needs to be checked. Donnelly is a crucial Senate vote.
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« Reply #480 on: September 29, 2018, 09:29:31 AM »


I know. I’m a Hoosier too. The L-NC is still up because I’m thinking of my friends down there who have been dealing with the aftermath of Florence. I still would rather have Stutzman than Braun or Silent Joe hence my expression.
I'm voting for Joe solely due to dissatisfaction with Trump, not to mention Boring Braun hasn't given me a reason to vote for him.


Sound reasoning
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« Reply #481 on: October 01, 2018, 01:46:16 PM »

Was starting to lose faith in Donelly being an actual Democrat until he said no on Kavanaugh
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« Reply #482 on: October 04, 2018, 12:59:39 PM »

Sweetheart Loans and Creative Accounting Behind Debt-Fueled GOP Senate Campaign

https://www.thedailybeast.com/sweetheart-loans-and-creative-accounting-behind-debt-fueled-gop-senate-campaign

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« Reply #483 on: October 04, 2018, 05:27:22 PM »

Just got polled for this race. I guess this was a "push poll" because I got asked who I would vote for about 6 or 7 times with seemingly negative facts about each candidate in between each one. Donnelly voting 'no' on Kavanaugh was one of them.
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« Reply #484 on: October 07, 2018, 02:03:26 AM »

Apparently, Senator Donnelly is getting a surprising number of supportive or neutral comments from constituents on social media.
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« Reply #485 on: October 07, 2018, 02:15:55 AM »

The no vote will cause him to lose, I had him at a tossup to narrowly favor to him before that stupid move.
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« Reply #486 on: October 07, 2018, 02:45:38 AM »

The no vote will cause him to lose, I had him at a tossup to narrowly favor to him before that stupid move.

You have Manchin also pegged to lose so I can safely not take you seriously.
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« Reply #487 on: October 08, 2018, 06:53:56 AM »

The no vote will cause him to lose, I had him at a tossup to narrowly favor to him before that stupid move.

You have Manchin also pegged to lose so I can safely not take you seriously.
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« Reply #488 on: October 08, 2018, 08:46:39 AM »

Just got polled for this race. I guess this was a "push poll" because I got asked who I would vote for about 6 or 7 times with seemingly negative facts about each candidate in between each one. Donnelly voting 'no' on Kavanaugh was one of them.

A push poll would not re-ask who you are voting for (every question costs money, and push polls are designed to spread the most negative information to the most people at the lowest price point), and would be focused on one candidate.

This was probably a genuine poll to test potential lines of attack for TV/digital ads and mail pieces, though it is admittedly very late in the game to just be testing messages now.
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« Reply #489 on: October 08, 2018, 09:19:24 AM »

As long as the top line isn't effected, it's not really a push poll..
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« Reply #490 on: October 08, 2018, 04:35:27 PM »

Debate night tonight!  Who's watching?
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« Reply #491 on: October 24, 2018, 05:48:16 AM »

Polls seem to indicate that Donnelly's win depends on the Libertarian getting 7 or 8%.  Is this correct... and what are the chances that some to this Libertarian support will end up voting Republican instead?
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« Reply #492 on: October 24, 2018, 12:47:44 PM »

The fact that I had to go back to page seven on this board to find this thread says a lot about this race.  No one is talking about it.  I really get the feeling there is no enthusiasm at all for Braun; which leaves Donnelly is a good position as Democrats are motivated to turn out this season no matter what.

The lack of quality polling does have me uneasy on this race though.

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I've dug through a lot of the crosstabs on the polls and they don't really give me a lot of faith in Donnelly.

He's averaging well under 45% in most of the polls and I don't really see why there would be a late break for him, but can see a million reasons why late deciders who just go from Braun with Trump's approval rebounding at the end of the cycle.

Yeah, Donnelly could certainly win in a big Democratic wave, but I doubt he survives even a slight GOP overperformance, and I don’t get why people think he’s underrated or that the race is Lean D (or Likely D, if you trust 538's "model"). A Braun win would hardly be an upset.
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« Reply #493 on: October 24, 2018, 12:52:34 PM »

The fact that I had to go back to page seven on this board to find this thread says a lot about this race.  No one is talking about it.  I really get the feeling there is no enthusiasm at all for Braun; which leaves Donnelly is a good position as Democrats are motivated to turn out this season no matter what.

The lack of quality polling does have me uneasy on this race though.

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I've dug through a lot of the crosstabs on the polls and they don't really give me a lot of faith in Donnelly.

He's averaging well under 45% in most of the polls and I don't really see why there would be a late break for him, but can see a million reasons why late deciders who just go from Braun with Trump's approval rebounding at the end of the cycle.

Yeah, Donnelly could certainly win in a big Democratic wave, but I doubt he survives even a slight GOP overperformance, and I don’t get why people think he’s underrated or that the race is Lean D (or Likely D, if you trust 538's "model"). A Braun win would hardly be an upset.

538 still has Heitkamp more likely to win than Braun, lol. Their trashdamentals are a joke.
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« Reply #494 on: October 28, 2018, 02:14:43 PM »

Desperation Attempts having started by the Indiana Democratic Party. They know they're behind and now sending out Mailers calling Libertarian Candidate Lucy Brenton the True Conservative. LMAO.



This smells like absolute Desperation.
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« Reply #495 on: October 28, 2018, 02:16:43 PM »

Desperation Attempts having started by the Indiana Democratic Party. They know they're behind and now sending out Mailers calling Libertarian Candidate Lucy Brenton the True Conservative. LMAO.



This smells like absolute Desperation.
Brilliant move. Anything they can do to reduce Braun's vote share hurts for the GOP.
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« Reply #496 on: October 28, 2018, 04:00:47 PM »

Desperation Attempts having started by the Indiana Democratic Party. They know they're behind and now sending out Mailers calling Libertarian Candidate Lucy Brenton the True Conservative. LMAO.



This smells like absolute Desperation.
You're the biggest hack on the forum.
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« Reply #497 on: October 28, 2018, 04:04:17 PM »

The biggest hacks on this forum tend to be the people with red or maroon avatars actually LOL

also, I think Donnelly is going down. Braun is getting more and more of the previously undecided voters.
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« Reply #498 on: October 28, 2018, 04:05:12 PM »

The biggest hacks on this forum tend to be the people with red or maroon avatars actually LOL

also, I think Donnelly is going down. Braun is getting more and more of the previously undecided voters.

Perhaps they wear Orange avatars as well.
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« Reply #499 on: October 28, 2018, 04:06:48 PM »

The biggest hacks on this forum tend to be the people with red or maroon avatars actually LOL

also, I think Donnelly is going down. Braun is getting more and more of the previously undecided voters.

Perhaps they wear Orange avatars as well.

I wonder who you could be talking about.
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