HOUSE BILL: Return Education To the Regions Act (Passed - Sent to the VP/PPT)
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« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2017, 01:44:43 PM »

How much will it cut at that time?
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« Reply #51 on: March 23, 2017, 03:44:12 AM »
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« Reply #52 on: March 23, 2017, 04:27:45 AM »

How much will it cut at that time?

We should probably specify that with a subsequent amendment.
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« Reply #53 on: March 23, 2017, 04:02:04 PM »

How much will it cut at that time?

We should probably specify that with a subsequent amendment.

Alright.
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« Reply #54 on: March 24, 2017, 04:13:26 AM »

The amendment has been adopted.
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« Reply #55 on: March 24, 2017, 02:42:37 PM »


Cool, now, how much will be cut on the specified date?
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« Reply #56 on: March 25, 2017, 03:02:01 AM »

How much are you guys up for cutting?
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« Reply #57 on: March 25, 2017, 12:33:27 PM »


Yankee; I'm beginning to think that we're the only representatives in this house.

Anyway, maybe 10%? 15%?
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« Reply #58 on: March 25, 2017, 01:53:26 PM »


Yankee; I'm beginning to think that we're the only representatives in this house.

Anyway, maybe 10%? 15%?

To determine the activity in the house with the aid of a porposal that does not seem to have broad support is remarkable, but I take that as an invitation to state that we should not cut any resources of the department of education, even though this bill transfers salient tasks to the regions, federal interference is absolutely necessary. Financial resources for federal education programs are important, education is the last thing we should cut from.
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« Reply #59 on: March 26, 2017, 10:16:40 PM »


Yankee; I'm beginning to think that we're the only representatives in this house.

Anyway, maybe 10%? 15%?

To determine the activity in the house with the aid of a porposal that does not seem to have broad support is remarkable, but I take that as an invitation to state that we should not cut any resources of the department of education, even though this bill transfers salient tasks to the regions, federal interference is absolutely necessary. Financial resources for federal education programs are important, education is the last thing we should cut from.

How are we suppose to know the level of support for a proposal if the members are not routinely chiming in there opinions on any given proposal or idea?

What happens if an amendment gets adopted to the bill through the friendly amendment process?
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« Reply #60 on: March 26, 2017, 10:19:34 PM »

Well we don't currently have a national department of education, so maybe we could add that? The only problem is the title "Return Education to the Regions".
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« Reply #61 on: March 26, 2017, 10:20:39 PM »

At the very least we should be able to cut administration and like costs. If tasks are being regionalized, then there is less need for bureaucrats in Nyman.

I agree with not cutting money going to actual teachers and students, at least not until the regions could put up alternative sources of revenues for that.
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« Reply #62 on: March 26, 2017, 10:33:57 PM »

Well we don't currently have a national department of education, so maybe we could add that? The only problem is the title "Return Education to the Regions".

As of the reset, we have a department of education. Unless a bill passed eliminating it, or an executive order ended it.
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« Reply #63 on: March 26, 2017, 10:35:28 PM »

At the very least we should be able to cut administration and like costs. If tasks are being regionalized, then there is less need for bureaucrats in Nyman.

I agree with not cutting money going to actual teachers and students, at least not until the regions could put up alternative sources of revenues for that.

This is exactly my point. Everybody is worried about an unbalanced budget, and now we have an opportunity to relieve some of that monetary burden without increasing taxes.
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« Reply #64 on: March 26, 2017, 10:53:46 PM »

Well we don't currently have a national department of education, so maybe we could add that? The only problem is the title "Return Education to the Regions".

Actually we do have a Department of Education.

Historically in Atlasia, the Departments from RL have all considered to have existed within their umbrella Atlasia departments (SoS, SoIA etc). Nothing with regards to the reset has changed that in any regard, though it did delete the statute clarifying it:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=176810.msg3819194#msg3819194

I have still been using that as a guide of sorts for agency names as I craft legislation like the Research Grant process, and some healthcare texts.
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« Reply #65 on: March 26, 2017, 11:04:54 PM »

Well we don't currently have a national department of education, so maybe we could add that? The only problem is the title "Return Education to the Regions".
Actually we do have a Department of Education.

Historically in Atlasia, the Departments from RL have all considered to have existed within their umbrella Atlasia departments (SoS, SoIA etc). Nothing with regards to the reset has changed that in any regard, though it did delete the statute clarifying it:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=176810.msg3819194#msg3819194

I have still been using that as a guide of sorts for agency names as I craft legislation like the Research Grant process, and some healthcare texts.
Formally re-establishing this was one of the first acts of my brief presidency, accomplished with Executive Order 39-005. Apart from the Subdepartment of Justice (item b), recently reorganized as the independent Department of Justice (Executive Order 42-002), this remains the portfolio of the Internal Affairs Secretary.
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« Reply #66 on: March 26, 2017, 11:08:37 PM »

Well we don't currently have a national department of education, so maybe we could add that? The only problem is the title "Return Education to the Regions".
Actually we do have a Department of Education.

Historically in Atlasia, the Departments from RL have all considered to have existed within their umbrella Atlasia departments (SoS, SoIA etc). Nothing with regards to the reset has changed that in any regard, though it did delete the statute clarifying it:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=176810.msg3819194#msg3819194

I have still been using that as a guide of sorts for agency names as I craft legislation like the Research Grant process, and some healthcare texts.
Formally re-establishing this was one of the first acts of my brief presidency, accomplished with Executive Order 39-005. Apart from the Subdepartment of Justice (item b), recently reorganized as the independent Department of Justice (Executive Order 42-002), this remains the portfolio of the Internal Affairs Secretary.

Where is health and human services?
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« Reply #67 on: March 26, 2017, 11:16:42 PM »

Well we don't currently have a national department of education, so maybe we could add that? The only problem is the title "Return Education to the Regions".
Actually we do have a Department of Education.

Historically in Atlasia, the Departments from RL have all considered to have existed within their umbrella Atlasia departments (SoS, SoIA etc). Nothing with regards to the reset has changed that in any regard, though it did delete the statute clarifying it:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=176810.msg3819194#msg3819194

I have still been using that as a guide of sorts for agency names as I craft legislation like the Research Grant process, and some healthcare texts.
Formally re-establishing this was one of the first acts of my brief presidency, accomplished with Executive Order 39-005. Apart from the Subdepartment of Justice (item b), recently reorganized as the independent Department of Justice (Executive Order 42-002), this remains the portfolio of the Internal Affairs Secretary.
Where is health and human services?
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« Reply #68 on: March 27, 2017, 12:12:19 AM »

At the very least we should be able to cut administration and like costs. If tasks are being regionalized, then there is less need for bureaucrats in Nyman.

I agree with not cutting money going to actual teachers and students, at least not until the regions could put up alternative sources of revenues for that.

This is exactly my point. Everybody is worried about an unbalanced budget, and now we have an opportunity to relieve some of that monetary burden without increasing taxes.

I believe that it's an opportunity to use the money in different ways than we did. As you already stated, the bureaucratic efforts are obsolete, but many schools are in horrible shape and need money, and we also need the money for federal programs and, you now, measures that actually keep students educated. Imagine what would be possible if a significant amount was not wasted due to bureaucratic processes. I prefer not to cut. But if you offer an amendment - we can let the house decide.
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« Reply #69 on: March 27, 2017, 11:55:50 AM »

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« Reply #70 on: March 27, 2017, 11:56:33 AM »

I decided to do both what I wanted, and what simossad wanted with the amendment.
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« Reply #71 on: March 27, 2017, 12:29:23 PM »

Homeschooling was not at all what I wanted, and therefore I oppose this amendment.
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« Reply #72 on: March 27, 2017, 02:08:52 PM »

Homeschooling was not at all what I wanted, and therefore I oppose this amendment.

Why? Is homeschoolers second priority to you?
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« Reply #73 on: March 28, 2017, 12:02:30 AM »

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« Reply #74 on: March 28, 2017, 12:04:42 AM »

Who wants to assume sponsorship of this bill. It is still considered one of AZ's.
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