VA-GOV 2017: Utter Panic and Doom (General election: Nov 7th)
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« Reply #1550 on: November 02, 2017, 10:42:34 PM »
« edited: November 02, 2017, 10:44:42 PM by Greedo The Hunter »

So more bad news for northam Douglas wilder has no endorsement.
https://mobile.twitter.com/GovernorWilder/status/926129906576224256?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Update even more I why this is bad news for northam
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/amp/inside-bellwether-virginia-governor-s-race-tightens-n816631
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« Reply #1551 on: November 02, 2017, 10:50:51 PM »

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« Reply #1552 on: November 02, 2017, 10:52:20 PM »

Last thing I heard about the early vote was that black turnout was down 1.2% over 2013.

That sounds completely made up.  No way to make a determination on racial turnout within a few points MoE much less to decimal points.  However the increase in turnout seems to be at least as large in areas with significant black population as with the state as a whole.
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« Reply #1553 on: November 02, 2017, 10:53:16 PM »


So... I haven't been here for a full cycle yet, but... is this the norm for any competitive race on Atlas? Like, complete madness until election night?

Basically. Extreme overreaction and whiplash to every minor event.

Whooo, what a ride.
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« Reply #1554 on: November 02, 2017, 11:05:16 PM »

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« Reply #1555 on: November 02, 2017, 11:11:11 PM »
« Edited: November 02, 2017, 11:12:42 PM by Virginia »


So... I haven't been here for a full cycle yet, but... is this the norm for any competitive race on Atlas? Like, complete madness until election night?

Basically. Extreme overreaction and whiplash to every minor event.

Whooo, what a ride.

I don't think it's a default reaction for every race. This whole ruckus is compounded by the fact that Democrats have generally been failing as a party since 2010. While I think elections under Trump are going to be unkind to Republicans over the next two cycles, it'll obviously be a while before that materializes. Once Democrats start winning more races and rebound in raw political power, I think people will be less tense and more confident.

However Northam isn't the best candidate, and his campaign isn't the best either. It really doesn't help in the end. But we'll see. Everyone just needs to relax a little and thinking all these little things mean so much. This is like the electoral equivalent of a hangover, where you are hyper-sensitive to various stimuli after waking up.
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« Reply #1556 on: November 02, 2017, 11:28:28 PM »


What a bunch of jackasses.
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« Reply #1557 on: November 03, 2017, 12:56:36 AM »

This entire thread needs a Lexapro.
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« Reply #1558 on: November 03, 2017, 03:42:54 AM »

I'm not 100% sure that the Fox 'News' advertisements are such a bad thing for Northam. 
1. I've read that up to 1/3 of Fox 'News' viewers are either Democrats or are genuine independents, so reaching out to them may not be a bad idea.

2.The idea that Republicans in general, yet alone Republican Fox 'News' viewers aren't already motivated to vote for Gillespie strikes me as more than a little ridiculous.

I don't know why Democrats are so concerned with their actions motivating Republicans to vote, when the evidence is already pretty overwhelming that Republicans will turn out to vote no matter what and for no matter who.

Democrats collectively need to get their spine back and stop saying 'oh, but what if we annoy a Republican?'
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« Reply #1559 on: November 03, 2017, 05:48:08 AM »


Dean is a clever man. [sarcasm]Unlike present DFA leadership, which, probably, prefers very liberal and enlightened Gillespie [/sarcasm]
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« Reply #1560 on: November 03, 2017, 07:53:46 AM »

Trump's leaving for is long trip to Asia this morning. Means we will see no Trump events for Gillespie before Election Day.
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« Reply #1561 on: November 03, 2017, 07:55:12 AM »


LOL. I believe Wilder has done this with literally every Democratic nominee for Governor since he stepped down. He's about as representative of and influential among Democrats as "Democratic pollster" Pat Cadell.
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« Reply #1562 on: November 03, 2017, 07:56:38 AM »

Can we lock this thread until Election Day

Don't tempt me.
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« Reply #1563 on: November 03, 2017, 07:57:26 AM »


LOL. I believe Wilder has done this with literally every Democratic nominee for Governor since he stepped down. He's about as representative of and influential among Democrats as "Democratic pollster" Pat Cadell.

He did endorse Fairfax.
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« Reply #1564 on: November 03, 2017, 08:12:00 AM »


LOL. I believe Wilder has done this with literally every Democratic nominee for Governor since he stepped down. He's about as representative of and influential among Democrats as "Democratic pollster" Pat Cadell.

He did endorse Fairfax.

Hmm isn’t there something Wilder and Fairfax have in common...?
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« Reply #1565 on: November 03, 2017, 08:19:03 AM »


The GA-06 thread was worse, and we survived that one. Smiley
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« Reply #1566 on: November 03, 2017, 11:00:38 AM »

Gillespie+3

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/VA_TPC_Topline_Oct_30-Nov_2.pdf
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« Reply #1567 on: November 03, 2017, 11:07:42 AM »


>The Polling Company

I swear i'm never going to get over that name.

Anyway still Tossup/Tilt D.
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« Reply #1568 on: November 03, 2017, 11:10:03 AM »


I don't know why we don't count the polls with the Libertarian included.
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« Reply #1569 on: November 03, 2017, 11:14:10 AM »

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2017/virginia/election_2017_virginia_governor

Rasmussen Appears, calling the race tied, 45-45.

Weirdly, 2% saying they'd vote for "Other"

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« Reply #1570 on: November 03, 2017, 11:15:18 AM »

Consistent 2-3% for Hyra (local presence?) combined with decent undecideds (7% in TPC poll) = this could go either way

TPC also has undecideds split slightly for Gillespie, which given previous history, sounds good
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« Reply #1571 on: November 03, 2017, 11:17:22 AM »

Yeah now it's looking like Northam will loss
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« Reply #1572 on: November 03, 2017, 11:18:16 AM »

I'll just wait it out. Only a couple of days to go, and the hysteria here is not good for one's health.
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« Reply #1573 on: November 03, 2017, 11:32:25 AM »

Lol now you see that in the end it# tilting republican/Toss up
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« Reply #1574 on: November 03, 2017, 11:35:17 AM »

Gillespie is closing hard and should finish off Northam with ads about the Redskins.
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