American citizens: where do you stand on Israel?
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Question: American citizens: where do you stand on Israel?
#1
1st Choice: 2 states... 2nd Choice: Israel is Democractic... 3rd Choice: Israel is Jewish
 
#2
1st Choice: 2 states... 2nd Choice: Israel is Jewish... 3rd Choice: Israel is Democratic
 
#3
1st Choice: Israel is Democratic... 2nd Choice: 2 states... 3rd Choice: Israel is Jewish
 
#4
1st Choice: Israel is Democratic... 2nd Choice: Israel is Jewish.. 3rd Choice: 2 states
 
#5
1st Choice: Israel is Jewish... 2nd Choice: Israel is Democratic.. 3rd Choice: 2 states
 
#6
1st Choice: Israel is Jewish... 2nd Choice: 2 states.. 3rd Choice: Israel is Democratic
 
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« Reply #75 on: February 17, 2017, 02:43:03 PM »

Best option: 2 state solution, with boundary drawn as it was originally (before any of the Palestinian land was wrongfully seized) and reparations paid to the new Palestine by Israel for all past oppression.

So basically, reset the clock to the offered status quo before the multiple wars of extermination were launched by the Arab states against the Jewish people.

The irony is, this was essentially offered at Camp David (sans the reparitions, which would never happen). The Palestinians rejected it because of no "right of return". They want Tel Aviv too, de facto if not de jure.

Exactly. The two-state solution needs to be politically forced down their throats if Israel is to secure its existence as a Jewish, Democratic state.

Best option: 2 state solution, with boundary drawn as it was originally (before any of the Palestinian land was wrongfully seized) and reparations paid to the new Palestine by Israel for all past oppression.

And how are you planning to destroy, for example, the city of Ariel where there are 18,717 citizens plus a university? Or any of the many other cities? Land swaps are inevitable if you want an agreement. But you don't seem to want an agreement, based on your suggestion for reparations.

I'm not going to say this is my preferred position (I like the one-state solution), but the Jewish/Israeli people of Ariel can stay if they want and become Palestinian citizens. Or they can leave, which they probably would. No one needs to destroy the city; other people would live there. That's not even slightly unusual in world history, especially recent world history.

If you were talking about a city right on the border, land swaps might be workable, but Ariel is deep in the West Bank. It is part of Palestine in any realistic two-state solution.

Won't happe. I agree with you on the isolated 'settlements' of a few families and such (like Amona), but Ariel IS part of Israel. There's a university, ordinary people. We will not let it become part of a third world country. Land swaps do work with it, it's just no pretty on a map.
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