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« Reply #125 on: December 19, 2016, 01:30:19 PM »

AL called for Trump, according to 270towin. Took me way too long to find the 9 EV jump, lol.
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« Reply #126 on: December 19, 2016, 01:30:34 PM »

285 EV pending. Last chance for Jeb!

We can do it guys. lol.
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« Reply #127 on: December 19, 2016, 01:35:27 PM »

Protesters in Minnesota asking them to dump Trump, not realizing Trump lost Minnesota...
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« Reply #128 on: December 19, 2016, 01:36:14 PM »

Protesters in Minnesota asking them to dump Trump, not realizing Trump lost Minnesota...

Never expect intelligent discourse from people who gleefully violate Godwin's Law.
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« Reply #129 on: December 19, 2016, 01:39:46 PM »

Protesters in Minnesota asking them to dump Trump, not realizing Trump lost Minnesota...

lol.
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« Reply #130 on: December 19, 2016, 01:41:10 PM »

The happy farmers of SD are a joke. Vote for Clinton in both primaries, but vote for Trump in both stages of the GE.
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« Reply #131 on: December 19, 2016, 01:42:14 PM »

According to the Constitution "no person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector. "  Bill Clinton is an elector from NY and he receives both a pension and office expenses from the US and hence receives a profit for his office.  So he seems to be an illegal vote for Clinton.
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« Reply #132 on: December 19, 2016, 01:42:27 PM »

FAITHLESS ELECTOR IN MINNESOTA, PREVENTED BY MINNESOTA LAW.
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« Reply #133 on: December 19, 2016, 01:43:09 PM »

Faithless Elector has been replaced before vote cast, vote not counted.
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« Reply #134 on: December 19, 2016, 01:43:49 PM »

FAITHLESS ELECTOR IN MINNESOTA, PREVENTED BY MINNESOTA LAW.

Aw, it doesn't even count. This has been the most boring thing I ever anticipated.
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« Reply #135 on: December 19, 2016, 01:45:33 PM »

FAITHLESS ELECTOR IN MINNESOTA, PREVENTED BY MINNESOTA LAW.

Was he trying to vote for John Ewards again?
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« Reply #136 on: December 19, 2016, 01:48:34 PM »

FAITHLESS ELECTOR IN MINNESOTA, PREVENTED BY MINNESOTA LAW.

Was he trying to vote for John Ewards again?

Does anyone know what happened in 2004 and who did he vote for VP?
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« Reply #137 on: December 19, 2016, 01:49:06 PM »

FAITHLESS ELECTOR IN MINNESOTA, PREVENTED BY MINNESOTA LAW.

Was he trying to vote for John Ewards again?

Does anyone know what happened in 2004 and who did he vote for VP?

It was probably a mistake and s/he voted for Edwards for VP.
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« Reply #138 on: December 19, 2016, 01:49:51 PM »

Don't worry, guys, Jeb!'s ninja electors are about to rock the show.
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« Reply #139 on: December 19, 2016, 01:50:36 PM »

Minnesota officially counted as unanimous for Clinton. The replaced elector (Muhammad Abdurrahman) was refusing to vote and tried to leave his ballot blank.

Coming at 2PM:
-Maine (which could vote for three different people)
-Colorado, which could try to prevent faithless voting)
-Florida, Idaho, Michigan, North Dakota, Oregon, Utah, and Wyoming.
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« Reply #140 on: December 19, 2016, 01:50:51 PM »

FAITHLESS ELECTOR IN MINNESOTA, PREVENTED BY MINNESOTA LAW.

Was he trying to vote for John Ewards again?

Does anyone know what happened in 2004 and who did he vote for VP?

One elector simply voted "John Ewards", which they counted as presidential vote for Edwards.
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« Reply #141 on: December 19, 2016, 01:51:23 PM »

With MN:

Trump: 179
Clinton: 103
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« Reply #142 on: December 19, 2016, 01:54:04 PM »
« Edited: December 19, 2016, 01:56:31 PM by Nym90 »

According to the Constitution "no person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector. "  Bill Clinton is an elector from NY and he receives both a pension and office expenses from the US and hence receives a profit for his office.  So he seems to be an illegal vote for Clinton.

So by your logic, any former employee of the federal government who receives a pension is barred from being an elector?

I interpret "holding an office" to mean currently in office, and thus excluding benefits given to former officeholders. And office in this context clearly doesn't mean a workspace, but rather an official government elected position.
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« Reply #143 on: December 19, 2016, 01:58:52 PM »

Other states that have faithless elector laws with possible faithless voters today are Maine, California, Colorado, and Washington. If the faithless votes there are not counted, we may only see one faithless vote from Texas, a state without faithless voting laws.
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« Reply #144 on: December 19, 2016, 02:01:26 PM »

According to the Constitution "no person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector. "  Bill Clinton is an elector from NY and he receives both a pension and office expenses from the US and hence receives a profit for his office.  So he seems to be an illegal vote for Clinton.

So by your logic, any former employee of the federal government who receives a pension is barred from being an elector?

I interpret "holding an office" to mean currently in office, and thus excluding benefits given to former officeholders. And office in this context clearly doesn't mean a workspace, but rather an official government elected position.

To be an expresident of the US you have to hold the office, then for the rest of your life you get Secret Service protection paid for by the US and a few million dollars in office expenses, so seems like a pretty good profit for an office...
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« Reply #145 on: December 19, 2016, 02:03:46 PM »

According to the Constitution "no person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector. "  Bill Clinton is an elector from NY and he receives both a pension and office expenses from the US and hence receives a profit for his office.  So he seems to be an illegal vote for Clinton.

So by your logic, any former employee of the federal government who receives a pension is barred from being an elector?

I interpret "holding an office" to mean currently in office, and thus excluding benefits given to former officeholders. And office in this context clearly doesn't mean a workspace, but rather an official government elected position.

To be an expresident of the US you have to hold the office, then for the rest of your life you get Secret Service protection paid for by the US and a few million dollars in office expenses, so seems like a pretty good profit for an office...

But there is no Office of Former President, so Bill Clinton does not currently hold an office.
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« Reply #146 on: December 19, 2016, 02:04:04 PM »

What's up with DC?  
They were supposed to vote at 12:00.  Nobody show up?  So incompetent they haven't finished? or does nobody care about this non-state?
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« Reply #147 on: December 19, 2016, 02:05:59 PM »

According to the Constitution "no person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector. "  Bill Clinton is an elector from NY and he receives both a pension and office expenses from the US and hence receives a profit for his office.  So he seems to be an illegal vote for Clinton.

So by your logic, any former employee of the federal government who receives a pension is barred from being an elector?

I interpret "holding an office" to mean currently in office, and thus excluding benefits given to former officeholders. And office in this context clearly doesn't mean a workspace, but rather an official government elected position.

To be an expresident of the US you have to hold the office, then for the rest of your life you get Secret Service protection paid for by the US and a few million dollars in office expenses, so seems like a pretty good profit for an office...

Sure, but a person who held an office in the past is not the same as a person "holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States"
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« Reply #148 on: December 19, 2016, 02:06:34 PM »

Lol @ the Colorado ballot...

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« Reply #149 on: December 19, 2016, 02:06:45 PM »

Will Utah have an elector who votes for egghead?
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