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« on: December 18, 2016, 08:17:55 PM »
The electoral college votes on Monday throughout the day.  We should get media reports on what’s happening throughout the day.  Post your live commentary here.

Here’s the timeline for the day:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/electoral-college-voting-unfold-monday-102405396.html
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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2016, 08:57:02 PM »
« Edited: December 18, 2016, 09:35:22 PM by bandg »
From that link, Trump states that allow faithless electors (199 EV):
AL, AZ, AR, FL, GA, ID, IN, IA, KS, KY, LA, MS, MO, ND, PA, SD, TX, WV


Trump states that DO NOT allow faithless electors (107 EV):
AK, ME (1 EV), MI, MT, NE, NC, OH, OK, SC, TN, UT, WI, WY

So assuming Suprun as faithless, 36/198 (18.2%) would have to not vote Trump for this to go to the House.
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2016, 09:27:32 PM »
No state can really "ban" faithless voting, as a hypothetical suit would eventually result in a decision affirming the rights of electors to be unbound and have their choices made freely.
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2016, 09:36:04 PM »
The Yahoo times are local time, this site has all times Eastern time:
see http://www.270towin.com/news/2016/12/16/electors-meet-monday-updated-schedule-results-map_428.html#.WFWEU_krLIU

First votes at 10:00 AM EST in NH, last votes at 7:00 PM EST in HI.
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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2016, 02:08:21 AM »
My prediction:

303 Trump
231 Hillary

4 for "others" (Kasich, Cruz, none, etc.)
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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2016, 02:53:16 AM »
I don't think there'll be anywhere near enough faithless electors to throw the election to the House, but I'd love if they held Trump to under 300.
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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2016, 04:41:16 AM »
Does anyone have the gender and age breakdown of the EC members today ?
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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2016, 04:54:04 AM »
Michael Moore will pay GOP electors fines if they vote for Hillary today:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-moore-appeals-gop-electors-rogue-pay-state/story?id=44276931
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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2016, 05:17:14 AM »

I'm sure that will swing their minds... It's embarrassing - for Michael Moore.
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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2016, 05:20:34 AM »
My prediction is that there will be more faithless Clinton electors than Trump ones.

And in a few hours Chris Soprun (or how this joke of a man is written) will see his 15 minutes of attention end forever. But I'm sure it will be enough to run for office as a Democrat in 2018 - with a big amount of media coverage only to lose in the Dem Primary.
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« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2016, 07:21:40 AM »
My prediction

Trump: 306
Clinton: 232

Faithless electors: 0

Let's be real here.
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« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2016, 07:34:04 AM »
Quote from: Senator LLR on December 19, 2016, 07:21:40 AM
My prediction

Trump: 306
Clinton: 232

Faithless electors: 0

Let's be real here.

Right, we do need to be realistic:
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« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2016, 07:47:06 AM »
We're going to have the most faithless electors (faithless is more common for VP) in a couple of centuries, but before anyone gets too excited, there were 2 in 1832 and 6 in 1808. That's it for elections with multiple faithless electors.
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« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2016, 07:57:53 AM »
« Edited: December 19, 2016, 08:19:42 AM by Peebs »
1872 had 63, but that was under extraordinary circumstances (read: Greeley dying).

Edit: Didn't know Dave had it.
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« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2016, 08:05:12 AM »
I wonder if we'll have faithless presidential electors if there going to be any in VP vote.
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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2016, 10:04:10 AM »
New Hampshire live
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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2016, 10:04:49 AM »
at least 4 or 5 electors will change that one guy  in the republican maybe someone in utah go for mcmuffin and the others may be hillary voters going for sanders.
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2016, 10:08:15 AM »
I had a dream last night that NH voted 3 Clinton, 1 Kasich
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2016, 10:15:37 AM »
Quote from: Père Ubu on December 19, 2016, 08:05:12 AM
I wonder if we'll have faithless presidential electors if there going to be any in VP vote.

If any, it will probably be on the dem side by electors trying to make a mockery of the system. I'm guessing Pence probably gets 306.
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« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2016, 10:16:03 AM »
Quote from: realisticidealist on December 19, 2016, 10:08:15 AM
I had a dream last night that NH voted 3 Clinton, 1 Kasich

TN Volunteer would need lithium...
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« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2016, 10:33:41 AM »
« Edited: December 19, 2016, 11:25:01 AM by SteveRogers »
Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on December 19, 2016, 07:47:06 AM
We're going to have the most faithless electors (faithless is more common for VP) in a couple of centuries, but before anyone gets too excited, there were 2 in 1832 and 6 in 1808. That's it for elections with multiple faithless electors.

There were actually 23 in 1836, but all for VP. The VP election actually got thrown to the Senate for the only time when New York Virginia delegation refused to vote for Van Buren's running mate.
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« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2016, 10:34:55 AM »
ME Elector Voting for Bernie- https://mobile.twitter.com/mikeshepherdME/status/810851986342080512
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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2016, 10:39:57 AM »
Quote from: twenty42 on December 19, 2016, 10:16:03 AM
Quote from: realisticidealist on December 19, 2016, 10:08:15 AM
I had a dream last night that NH voted 3 Clinton, 1 Kasich

TN Volunteer would need lithium...

Yes, I think there is finally a sighting of an angry NH women (who went on for about 15 minutes), that TN has been fantasizing about. Tongue  Now more potential candidates for the honor to come! I think all four electors are women.
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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2016, 10:42:34 AM »
NH electors are just droning on instead of signing the EV!
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« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2016, 10:42:48 AM »
Hmm, these 4 NH women are looking really sad instead of angry ...
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