Which is morally worse, child molestation or bestiality?

[Emsworth]

In my personal system of morality, I believe that something is either moral or immoral. I do not distinguish actions as being "less immoral" or "more moral" than others.

So, in your system, stealing a candybar is equal to murder?

No. Stealing from the rich is not immoral.

Well, I wasn't asking you, lol.

My reply is on the previous page, btw.

Yes, I saw it. I was just picking your brain. I don't really agree with your logic, but I suppose there's no arguing with it.

That's fair enough. Indeed, I cannot reasonably argue with your logic either. Moral systems are entirely arbitrary, subject to the whims of the individuals to whom they belong. There is, in my opinion, no such thing as a universal moral or moral system that applies without exception. Thus, arguments that a particular system of morality is necessarily wrong do not tend to be valid.

[MissCatholic]

Both are worse, she said. The question that remains is, worse than what?

Oh, in that case she meant worse than stealing a candybar.

She's right!

I'm sure the pig would rather me steal a candybar than stick my vibrator up his bottom

[minionofmidas]

Both are worse, she said. The question that remains is, worse than what?

Oh, in that case she meant worse than stealing a candybar.

She's right!

I'm sure the pig would rather me steal a candybar than stick my vibrator up his bottom

Point is, that wasn't the question.
Anyways, how can you be sure? He might like the vibrator. And he won't care about the candy bar, unless you steal it for him.

[Bono]

There's nothing wrong with either, you intolerant prudes.

[Jake]

This is the best thread ever!

We've had better if memory serves. Stick around and you'll see just how much quality we can get.

"Would you have sex with a hot transvestite communist rebel who dressed like a man but had a sex change to be woman?" That's the next quality thread we'll have, to be sure.

The Masturbation thread kicked ass

[Bono]

This is the best thread ever!

We've had better if memory serves. Stick around and you'll see just how much quality we can get.

"Would you have sex with a hot transvestite communist rebel who dressed like a man but had a sex change to be woman?" That's the next quality thread we'll have, to be sure.

The Masturbation thread kicked ass

Yea, but the Ministry of Truth has already done away with it.

[David S]

Boy oh boy you come up with some lovely choices. Anyways since I value human life far above animal life, child molestation is far worse. As far as bestiality goes, one can only hope the perpetrator applies his unwanted advances toward a grizzly bear.

[opebo]

There's nothing wrong with either, you intolerant prudes.

Absolutely correct, Bono, although I would add that the poll is poorly designed because it provides no option for those of us who realize there is no objective 'wrong'.

[Ebowed]

There's nothing wrong with either, you intolerant prudes.

Absolutely correct, Bono

Know what sarcasm means?

[opebo]

There's nothing wrong with either, you intolerant prudes.

Absolutely correct, Bono

Know what sarcasm means?

Of course!  It is when someone like Bono sounds reasonable.

[J. J.]

the most disgusting would be a mix of both: A man molesting a baby cow? you tell me thats not morally wrong.

Let me ask you a question.  Do you eat chicken, mutton, fish, beef, pork, lobster, fish and/or duck?

Do you eat (and I mean consume) small children?

[KillerPollo]

Let me ask you a question.  Do you eat chicken, mutton, fish, beef, pork, lobster, fish and/or duck?

Do you eat (and I mean consume) small children?

you know... I would certainly like to! even if I'm pro-life n all, there's still this evil thought in me. but i'd do it if i were desperately hungry, and the child were deathly ill anyways.

[Speed of Sound]

the most disgusting would be a mix of both: A man molesting a baby cow? you tell me thats not morally wrong.

Do you eat chicken, mutton, fish, beef, pork, lobster, fish and/or duck?

Do you eat (and I mean consume) small children?

no and no

[Huckleberry Finn]

Obviously, the thing that hurts what is important. Comparing an animal  getting whatever beasters do to them done to it is nothing compared to the emotional, physical, and psychological effects on a human being.

I totally agree.

However animals can suffer too at least physically.

[John Dibble]

Obviously, the thing that hurts what is important. Comparing an animal  getting whatever beasters do to them done to it is nothing compared to the emotional, physical, and psychological effects on a human being.

I totally agree.

However animals can suffer too at least physically.

Yeah, I wouldn't argue against that, but still I value human life far more than animal life, so I don't see a crime commited against humans as equally wrong to the same crime commited on an animal.

[KillerPollo]

Obviously, the thing that hurts what is important. Comparing an animal  getting whatever beasters do to them done to it is nothing compared to the emotional, physical, and psychological effects on a human being.

I totally agree.

However animals can suffer too at least physically.

Yeah, I wouldn't argue against that, but still I value human life far more than animal life, so I don't see a crime commited against humans as equally wrong to the same crime commited on an animal.

*has someONE for dinner* am I committing a crime?

[John Dibble]

Obviously, the thing that hurts what is important. Comparing an animal  getting whatever beasters do to them done to it is nothing compared to the emotional, physical, and psychological effects on a human being.

I totally agree.

However animals can suffer too at least physically.

Yeah, I wouldn't argue against that, but still I value human life far more than animal life, so I don't see a crime commited against humans as equally wrong to the same crime commited on an animal.

*has someONE for dinner* am I committing a crime?

By someONE, I assume you mean a human. If so, did said person consent to be eaten and/or was it a situation where you are starving and they died first and you have no other food available?

[KillerPollo]

Obviously, the thing that hurts what is important. Comparing an animal  getting whatever beasters do to them done to it is nothing compared to the emotional, physical, and psychological effects on a human being.

I totally agree.

However animals can suffer too at least physically.

Yeah, I wouldn't argue against that, but still I value human life far more than animal life, so I don't see a crime commited against humans as equally wrong to the same crime commited on an animal.

*has someONE for dinner* am I committing a crime?

By someONE, I assume you mean a human. If so, did said person consent to be eaten and/or was it a situation where you are starving and they died first and you have no other food available?

scenario 2

[John Dibble]

Obviously, the thing that hurts what is important. Comparing an animal  getting whatever beasters do to them done to it is nothing compared to the emotional, physical, and psychological effects on a human being.

I totally agree.

However animals can suffer too at least physically.

Yeah, I wouldn't argue against that, but still I value human life far more than animal life, so I don't see a crime commited against humans as equally wrong to the same crime commited on an animal.

*has someONE for dinner* am I committing a crime?

By someONE, I assume you mean a human. If so, did said person consent to be eaten and/or was it a situation where you are starving and they died first and you have no other food available?

scenario 2

Well, either scenario 1 or 2 is fine. In the first, you have their permission - their body is their property, so they can do with it as they wish, including letting you eat them. In the second, your only other option is death, and they are already dead - since death isn't really an option, you merely are doing what is absolutely necessary to survive.

[Vincent]

Obviously, the thing that hurts what is important. Comparing an animal  getting whatever beasters do to them done to it is nothing compared to the emotional, physical, and psychological effects on a human being.

I totally agree.

However animals can suffer too at least physically.

^^^^^^^^
We should definately consider crimes against humans worse than those against animals.

[nclib]

I assume we're talking about the acts not the conditions.

Anyhow, zoophilia is more disgusting, but ultimately pedophilia is more wrong since the trauma would be greater for a human child than an animal.

[Ebowed]

Bump for great justice

[Democratic Hawk]

Both are absolutely disgusting :>(. I don't recall if I voted earlier but I voted pedophilia but both are sick

Dave

[Democratic Hawk]

Do you people not see the difference between a human and a dog?

Some people see all life forms as being equal in essence. Being something of a humanist, I don't hold that view

Dave

[Emsworth]

As I noted before: I do not feel that there is any such thing as being "less moral" or "more moral." Something is either moral or immoral.