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« Reply #75 on: October 09, 2017, 03:01:45 PM »

if you have sex with a socialist, do you also become a socialist? Even if you use a condom?

Oh no, by that rule I'm not a zionist. LORD HAVE MERCY
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« Reply #76 on: October 09, 2017, 08:02:34 PM »

if you have sex with a socialist, do you also become a socialist? Even if you use a condom?

Oh no, by that rule I'm not a zionist. LORD HAVE MERCY

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« Reply #77 on: October 09, 2017, 08:52:59 PM »

if you have sex with a socialist, do you also become a socialist? Even if you use a condom?

One's sexual activity has no affect on their status as a socialist or capitalist.
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« Reply #78 on: October 09, 2017, 09:41:55 PM »

If a capitalist cannibal were to fully consume a socialist half his size, would he be 1/3 socialist?
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« Reply #79 on: October 09, 2017, 10:53:25 PM »

If a capitalist cannibal were to fully consume a socialist half his size, would he be 1/3 socialist?

No.

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This is the current version of the rules:

A socialist by association consists of ONLY the following:
1. Someone who voted for or endorsed Sanders for President,
2. Someone who is in Sanders's immediate family, and
3. Someone who was endorsed by Sanders during a primary election.

One may be absolved of this status by doing any of the following:

1. One may get elected to congress, governor, president, or state legislature and consistently advocate and vote for capitalist policies during a full term, or,

2. If applicable, may apologize for endorsing Sanders and admit that they endangered the country, or,

3. If Applicable, one may present convincing evidence that they have resisted their relation, or,

4. If Applicable, one may disavow Sanders's endorsement of their candidacy.

1. may be applied retroactively with my approval.

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A socialist by admission consists of ONLY the following:

1. Sponsors or Cosponsors of HR 676,
2. Sponsors or Cosponsors of Senate Bill 1804, and
3. Others who have clearly demonstrated, through the laws that they support, that they are not capitalists.

To absolve oneself of this status, one must withdraw their sponsorship of HR 676 or Senate Bill 1804 if applicable, and one must get elected to congress, governor, president, or state legislature and consistently advocate and vote for capitalist policies during a full term. In this case, there will be no retroactive application - they must serve a new term in office and behave appropriately during that term.
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« Reply #80 on: October 09, 2017, 10:55:00 PM »

What if someone marries into the Sanders family?
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« Reply #81 on: October 09, 2017, 11:41:47 PM »

What if someone marries into the Sanders family?

Immediate Family Definition:

Someone's (in this case, Bernie Sanders's) spouse, parents and grandparents, children and grand children, brothers and sisters, mother in law and father in law, brothers in law and sisters in law, daughters in law and sons in law. Adopted, half, and step members are also included in immediate family.

http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/immediate-family.html
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« Reply #82 on: October 10, 2017, 12:05:42 AM »

if you are in the immediate family of a congressperson who supports HR 676 are you a socialist by admission by association?
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« Reply #83 on: October 10, 2017, 12:34:04 AM »

if you are in the immediate family of a congressperson who supports HR 676 are you a socialist by admission by association?

No. The immediate family part applies only to the immediate family of Sanders himself.
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« Reply #84 on: October 10, 2017, 12:44:45 AM »

If a capitalist cannibal were to fully consume a socialist half his size, would he be 1/3 socialist?

No.

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This is the current version of the rules:

A socialist by association consists of ONLY the following:
1. Someone who voted for or endorsed Sanders for President,
2. Someone who is in Sanders's immediate family, and
3. Someone who was endorsed by Sanders during a primary election.

One may be absolved of this status by doing any of the following:

1. One may get elected to congress, governor, president, or state legislature and consistently advocate and vote for capitalist policies during a full term, or,

2. If applicable, may apologize for endorsing Sanders and admit that they endangered the country, or,

3. If Applicable, one may present convincing evidence that they have resisted their relation, or,

4. If Applicable, one may disavow Sanders's endorsement of their candidacy.

1. may be applied retroactively with my approval.

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A socialist by admission consists of ONLY the following:

1. Sponsors or Cosponsors of HR 676,
2. Sponsors or Cosponsors of Senate Bill 1804, and
3. Others who have clearly demonstrated, through the laws that they support, that they are not capitalists.

To absolve oneself of this status, one must withdraw their sponsorship of HR 676 or Senate Bill 1804 if applicable, and one must get elected to congress, governor, president, or state legislature and consistently advocate and vote for capitalist policies during a full term. In this case, there will be no retroactive application - they must serve a new term in office and behave appropriately during that term.

Either this is a joke or you are.
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« Reply #85 on: October 10, 2017, 12:53:27 AM »

If a capitalist cannibal were to fully consume a socialist half his size, would he be 1/3 socialist?

No.

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This is the current version of the rules:

A socialist by association consists of ONLY the following:
1. Someone who voted for or endorsed Sanders for President,
2. Someone who is in Sanders's immediate family, and
3. Someone who was endorsed by Sanders during a primary election.

One may be absolved of this status by doing any of the following:

1. One may get elected to congress, governor, president, or state legislature and consistently advocate and vote for capitalist policies during a full term, or,

2. If applicable, may apologize for endorsing Sanders and admit that they endangered the country, or,

3. If Applicable, one may present convincing evidence that they have resisted their relation, or,

4. If Applicable, one may disavow Sanders's endorsement of their candidacy.

1. may be applied retroactively with my approval.

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A socialist by admission consists of ONLY the following:

1. Sponsors or Cosponsors of HR 676,
2. Sponsors or Cosponsors of Senate Bill 1804, and
3. Others who have clearly demonstrated, through the laws that they support, that they are not capitalists.

To absolve oneself of this status, one must withdraw their sponsorship of HR 676 or Senate Bill 1804 if applicable, and one must get elected to congress, governor, president, or state legislature and consistently advocate and vote for capitalist policies during a full term. In this case, there will be no retroactive application - they must serve a new term in office and behave appropriately during that term.

Either this is a joke or you are.

I am not a joke, and this is serious.
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« Reply #86 on: October 10, 2017, 01:24:28 AM »

If a capitalist cannibal were to fully consume a socialist half his size, would he be 1/3 socialist?

No.

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This is the current version of the rules:

A socialist by association consists of ONLY the following:
1. Someone who voted for or endorsed Sanders for President,
2. Someone who is in Sanders's immediate family, and
3. Someone who was endorsed by Sanders during a primary election.

One may be absolved of this status by doing any of the following:

1. One may get elected to congress, governor, president, or state legislature and consistently advocate and vote for capitalist policies during a full term, or,

2. If applicable, may apologize for endorsing Sanders and admit that they endangered the country, or,

3. If Applicable, one may present convincing evidence that they have resisted their relation, or,

4. If Applicable, one may disavow Sanders's endorsement of their candidacy.

1. may be applied retroactively with my approval.

----------

A socialist by admission consists of ONLY the following:

1. Sponsors or Cosponsors of HR 676,
2. Sponsors or Cosponsors of Senate Bill 1804, and
3. Others who have clearly demonstrated, through the laws that they support, that they are not capitalists.

To absolve oneself of this status, one must withdraw their sponsorship of HR 676 or Senate Bill 1804 if applicable, and one must get elected to congress, governor, president, or state legislature and consistently advocate and vote for capitalist policies during a full term. In this case, there will be no retroactive application - they must serve a new term in office and behave appropriately during that term.

Either this is a joke or you are.

I am not a joke, and this is serious.

Alright, so then you just don't have a damn clue what you're talking about. Therefore, the first statement of yours was incorrect.
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« Reply #87 on: October 10, 2017, 02:23:08 AM »

If a capitalist cannibal were to fully consume a socialist half his size, would he be 1/3 socialist?

No.

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This is the current version of the rules:

A socialist by association consists of ONLY the following:
1. Someone who voted for or endorsed Sanders for President,
2. Someone who is in Sanders's immediate family, and
3. Someone who was endorsed by Sanders during a primary election.

One may be absolved of this status by doing any of the following:

1. One may get elected to congress, governor, president, or state legislature and consistently advocate and vote for capitalist policies during a full term, or,

2. If applicable, may apologize for endorsing Sanders and admit that they endangered the country, or,

3. If Applicable, one may present convincing evidence that they have resisted their relation, or,

4. If Applicable, one may disavow Sanders's endorsement of their candidacy.

1. may be applied retroactively with my approval.

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A socialist by admission consists of ONLY the following:

1. Sponsors or Cosponsors of HR 676,
2. Sponsors or Cosponsors of Senate Bill 1804, and
3. Others who have clearly demonstrated, through the laws that they support, that they are not capitalists.

To absolve oneself of this status, one must withdraw their sponsorship of HR 676 or Senate Bill 1804 if applicable, and one must get elected to congress, governor, president, or state legislature and consistently advocate and vote for capitalist policies during a full term. In this case, there will be no retroactive application - they must serve a new term in office and behave appropriately during that term.

Either this is a joke or you are.

I am not a joke, and this is serious.

Alright, so then you just don't have a damn clue what you're talking about. Therefore, the first statement of yours was incorrect.

My guess is you endorsed Sanders for President, and don't like the fact that you're a Socialist by Association because of that. But calling this a joke doesn't absolve you.
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« Reply #88 on: October 10, 2017, 02:43:21 AM »

If a capitalist cannibal were to fully consume a socialist half his size, would he be 1/3 socialist?

No.

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This is the current version of the rules:

A socialist by association consists of ONLY the following:
1. Someone who voted for or endorsed Sanders for President,
2. Someone who is in Sanders's immediate family, and
3. Someone who was endorsed by Sanders during a primary election.

One may be absolved of this status by doing any of the following:

1. One may get elected to congress, governor, president, or state legislature and consistently advocate and vote for capitalist policies during a full term, or,

2. If applicable, may apologize for endorsing Sanders and admit that they endangered the country, or,

3. If Applicable, one may present convincing evidence that they have resisted their relation, or,

4. If Applicable, one may disavow Sanders's endorsement of their candidacy.

1. may be applied retroactively with my approval.

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A socialist by admission consists of ONLY the following:

1. Sponsors or Cosponsors of HR 676,
2. Sponsors or Cosponsors of Senate Bill 1804, and
3. Others who have clearly demonstrated, through the laws that they support, that they are not capitalists.

To absolve oneself of this status, one must withdraw their sponsorship of HR 676 or Senate Bill 1804 if applicable, and one must get elected to congress, governor, president, or state legislature and consistently advocate and vote for capitalist policies during a full term. In this case, there will be no retroactive application - they must serve a new term in office and behave appropriately during that term.

Either this is a joke or you are.

I am not a joke, and this is serious.

Alright, so then you just don't have a damn clue what you're talking about. Therefore, the first statement of yours was incorrect.

My guess is you endorsed Sanders for President, and don't like the fact that you're a Socialist by Association because of that. But calling this a joke doesn't absolve you.

If you look closely, you can see that Jacobin is wearing a S-FL avatar.
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« Reply #89 on: October 10, 2017, 03:06:30 AM »

If a capitalist cannibal were to fully consume a socialist half his size, would he be 1/3 socialist?

No.

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This is the current version of the rules:

A socialist by association consists of ONLY the following:
1. Someone who voted for or endorsed Sanders for President,
2. Someone who is in Sanders's immediate family, and
3. Someone who was endorsed by Sanders during a primary election.

One may be absolved of this status by doing any of the following:

1. One may get elected to congress, governor, president, or state legislature and consistently advocate and vote for capitalist policies during a full term, or,

2. If applicable, may apologize for endorsing Sanders and admit that they endangered the country, or,

3. If Applicable, one may present convincing evidence that they have resisted their relation, or,

4. If Applicable, one may disavow Sanders's endorsement of their candidacy.

1. may be applied retroactively with my approval.

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A socialist by admission consists of ONLY the following:

1. Sponsors or Cosponsors of HR 676,
2. Sponsors or Cosponsors of Senate Bill 1804, and
3. Others who have clearly demonstrated, through the laws that they support, that they are not capitalists.

To absolve oneself of this status, one must withdraw their sponsorship of HR 676 or Senate Bill 1804 if applicable, and one must get elected to congress, governor, president, or state legislature and consistently advocate and vote for capitalist policies during a full term. In this case, there will be no retroactive application - they must serve a new term in office and behave appropriately during that term.

Either this is a joke or you are.

I am not a joke, and this is serious.

Alright, so then you just don't have a damn clue what you're talking about. Therefore, the first statement of yours was incorrect.

My guess is you endorsed Sanders for President, and don't like the fact that you're a Socialist by Association because of that. But calling this a joke doesn't absolve you.

I guess you missed the S-FL avatar and the Soviet flag being waved in my signature (which is only slightly ironic, since I'm not particularly fond of Soviet Socialism)... And I'm pretty confident I don't need any absolution; well, at least not from those particular actions. But if you'd like to learn exactly what Socialism is, I'd be happy to teach you or you could explore this website and, specifically, this section.
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« Reply #90 on: October 10, 2017, 11:17:13 AM »

If a capitalist cannibal were to fully consume a socialist half his size, would he be 1/3 socialist?

No.

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This is the current version of the rules:

A socialist by association consists of ONLY the following:
1. Someone who voted for or endorsed Sanders for President,
2. Someone who is in Sanders's immediate family, and
3. Someone who was endorsed by Sanders during a primary election.

One may be absolved of this status by doing any of the following:

1. One may get elected to congress, governor, president, or state legislature and consistently advocate and vote for capitalist policies during a full term, or,

2. If applicable, may apologize for endorsing Sanders and admit that they endangered the country, or,

3. If Applicable, one may present convincing evidence that they have resisted their relation, or,

4. If Applicable, one may disavow Sanders's endorsement of their candidacy.

1. may be applied retroactively with my approval.

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A socialist by admission consists of ONLY the following:

1. Sponsors or Cosponsors of HR 676,
2. Sponsors or Cosponsors of Senate Bill 1804, and
3. Others who have clearly demonstrated, through the laws that they support, that they are not capitalists.

To absolve oneself of this status, one must withdraw their sponsorship of HR 676 or Senate Bill 1804 if applicable, and one must get elected to congress, governor, president, or state legislature and consistently advocate and vote for capitalist policies during a full term. In this case, there will be no retroactive application - they must serve a new term in office and behave appropriately during that term.

Either this is a joke or you are.

I am not a joke, and this is serious.

Alright, so then you just don't have a damn clue what you're talking about. Therefore, the first statement of yours was incorrect.

My guess is you endorsed Sanders for President, and don't like the fact that you're a Socialist by Association because of that. But calling this a joke doesn't absolve you.

I guess you missed the S-FL avatar and the Soviet flag being waved in my signature (which is only slightly ironic, since I'm not particularly fond of Soviet Socialism)... And I'm pretty confident I don't need any absolution; well, at least not from those particular actions. But if you'd like to learn exactly what Socialism is, I'd be happy to teach you or you could explore this website and, specifically, this section.

Excuse me? Are you trying to kill us with this communism you are espousing?

Wulfric is making something very clear here: We can't afford a government health care plan. Tax increases through the roof, less choice, socialist quotas, and worst of all, Wulfric can't have... uh... relations with anyone who even dares to use the EVIL government health care plan. They would be a socialist by ADMISSION! For shame. They can't take a true hero like Wulfric.
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« Reply #91 on: October 12, 2017, 01:30:17 PM »

One wonders what addled Wulfric’s brain to the point of insanity.
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« Reply #92 on: October 12, 2017, 01:58:06 PM »

I think if real-life-Wulfric started speaking to me, I would literally be too speachless to respond (at which point, he would conclude he had won the exchange).
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« Reply #93 on: October 12, 2017, 11:09:44 PM »

If a capitalist cannibal were to fully consume a socialist half his size, would he be 1/3 socialist?

No.

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This is the current version of the rules:

A socialist by association consists of ONLY the following:
1. Someone who voted for or endorsed Sanders for President,
2. Someone who is in Sanders's immediate family, and
3. Someone who was endorsed by Sanders during a primary election.

One may be absolved of this status by doing any of the following:

1. One may get elected to congress, governor, president, or state legislature and consistently advocate and vote for capitalist policies during a full term, or,

2. If applicable, may apologize for endorsing Sanders and admit that they endangered the country, or,

3. If Applicable, one may present convincing evidence that they have resisted their relation, or,

4. If Applicable, one may disavow Sanders's endorsement of their candidacy.

1. may be applied retroactively with my approval.

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A socialist by admission consists of ONLY the following:

1. Sponsors or Cosponsors of HR 676,
2. Sponsors or Cosponsors of Senate Bill 1804, and
3. Others who have clearly demonstrated, through the laws that they support, that they are not capitalists.

To absolve oneself of this status, one must withdraw their sponsorship of HR 676 or Senate Bill 1804 if applicable, and one must get elected to congress, governor, president, or state legislature and consistently advocate and vote for capitalist policies during a full term. In this case, there will be no retroactive application - they must serve a new term in office and behave appropriately during that term.

Either this is a joke or you are.

I am not a joke, and this is serious.

Alright, so then you just don't have a damn clue what you're talking about. Therefore, the first statement of yours was incorrect.

My guess is you endorsed Sanders for President, and don't like the fact that you're a Socialist by Association because of that. But calling this a joke doesn't absolve you.

And I thought BRTD was crazy...
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« Reply #94 on: May 06, 2019, 08:52:16 PM »

It has come to my attention that the esteemed Professor Wulfric himself has "altered his persona" and now identifies as a socialist! In light of this development I hereby reopen this thread for further study.

This is truly groundbreaking: his experience within the ideology will allow him ample opportunity to further refine his Nobel prize-winning Theory of Socialist Identification!
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« Reply #95 on: May 08, 2019, 10:48:02 AM »

Reading the rules:

I am not a socialist by association because I did not vote or endorse Sanders for president; am not a relative of Sanders and I have never been endorsed by him.

I am also not a socialist by admission since I'm not a co-sponsor of those 2 bills or have supported other non-capitalist bills.

So I guess I'm not a socialist after all, even though I literally voted for the Socialist Party 2 weeks ago? Tongue
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« Reply #96 on: July 12, 2019, 10:06:51 AM »

NEW FEATURE: Socialist Identification in the 2020 Presidential Field
as determined by the current volume of The Rules of Socialist Idenification, written and published by Prof. Wulfric "Dwarven" Dragon, PhD.





Part 1: Socialism by Association

These are candidates who meet any of the following requirements:

Quote from: Dragon, W.D. in: The Rules of Socialist Identification, Oct 2017 Edition
A socialist by association consists of ONLY the following:
1. Someone who voted for or endorsed Sanders for President,
2. Someone who is in Sanders's immediate family, and
3. Someone who was endorsed by Sanders during a primary election.

(note also that the status of "socialist by association" can only be expunged in certain limited circumstances, and then only at the discretion of Professor Dragon himself. He has not publicly done so for any 2020 candidate.)

List of 'Socialists by Association' in the Democratic Primary

Gabbard, Tulsi: endorsed Bernie, has been endorsed by Bernie
Gravel, Mike: endorsed Bernie
Sanders, Bernie: voted for himself, is in his own immediate family, has been endorsed by himself
Steyer, Tom: endorsed Bernie
Williamson, Marianne: endorsed Bernie





Part 2: Socialists by Admission

These are candidates who have done any of the following:

Quote from: Dragon, W.D. in: The Rules of Socialist Identification, Oct 2017 Edition
A socialist by admission consists of ONLY the following:

1. Sponsors or Cosponsors of HR 676,
2. Sponsors or Cosponsors of Senate Bill 1804, and
3. Others who have clearly demonstrated, through the laws that they support, that they are not capitalists.

(I have declined to make any judgement calls regarding the third point; unlike Professor Dragon I have no advanced degree in socialist identification and/or recognition. However, for 1 and 2 I have taken the liberty to reference the current version of those two bills, HR 1384 and S.1129, respectively)

List of 'Socialists by Admission' in the Democratic Primary

Booker, Cory: cosponsor in Senate
Gabbard, Tulsi: cosponsor in House
Gillibrand, Kirsten: cosponsor in Senate
Harris, Kamala: cosponsor in Senate
Ryan, Tim: cosponsor in House
Sanders, Bernie: primary sponsor in Senate
Swalwell, Eric: cosponsor in House (candidate has withdrawn)
Warren, Elizabeth: cosponsor in Senate





CONCLUSION

Discounting Eric Swalwell, 10 of the 25 candidates are known socialists. Sanders and Gabbard are socialists by both measures, five others are socialists by admission, and three are socialists by association. The remaining 15 candidates are not known to be socialists but any or all could potentially be deemed Socialists By Admission as well in the event that they are "deemed to have clearly demonstrated... that they are not capitalists".
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« Reply #97 on: July 12, 2019, 10:20:34 AM »
« Edited: July 12, 2019, 10:24:07 AM by Bacon King »

Part 3: Help the Socialist Identification Project complete its work!

In addition to the preceding list, other candidates might also possibly be Socialists by Identification!

To efficiently complete this extremely important project, we have decided to crowd-source the final portion of the Professor Wulfric "Dwarven" Dragon Institute for Socialist Identication's upcoming publication, The Socialist Identification Project 2020 Guide for Identifying Socialists With Professor Wulfric's Rules of Socialist Identification, to be published soon by Professor W.D. Dragon, PhD.


To help our important project, please select which of the following candidates that, in your opinion, "have clearly demonstrated, through the laws that they support, that they are not capitalists."

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1. Bennet
2. Biden
3. Bullock
4. Buttigieg
5. Castro
6. de Blasio
7. Delaney
8. Hickenlooper
9. Inslee
10. Klobuchar
11. Messam
12. Moulton
13. O'Rourke
14. Sestak
15. Yang

Thank you for your support! Your contribution plays a major role in advancing the scientific frontiers of this new and exciting field of research.
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« Reply #98 on: July 12, 2019, 10:32:37 AM »

DeBlasio and Yang both come to mind
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« Reply #99 on: July 12, 2019, 12:01:00 PM »
« Edited: July 12, 2019, 12:04:13 PM by Both Sides™ »

if you have sex with a socialist, do you also become a socialist? Even if you use a condom?

One's sexual activity has no affect on their status as a socialist or capitalist.

But sexual encounter is by the very definition a "very close association". Not that you'd know.
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