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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2016, 10:20:58 AM »

Is there any indication that the person being "taken care of" was a donor and not just someone who was very helpful or competent?
The person in question is connected to a wealthy Nigerian-Lebanese donor to the Clinton Foundation. Bill attended his wedding in France.

Cheryl Mills, Clinton aides aggressively tracked FOIA efforts.

Its the same article with a different headline. Theres nothing wrong with using your connections as Secretary of state, especially in a country like Lebanon.
So there is nothing wrong with using the government to reward donors to your personal cashcow?
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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2016, 10:22:08 AM »

OP has biased headline.  Surprise.  Nothing new is learned in these emails and seeing the pearl clutching that some are doing is sad. 
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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2016, 10:22:42 AM »


Yeah, the Second Amendment folks and the NRA will dump millions into the midterms, hold or take back the Senate, and prevent her from nominating any judges. They'll take care of her just like Trump said when he referenced the midterms in that sentence.

Quit deflecting from this very serious report.

It's not a serious report, it's more grasping at straws from Judicial Watch. Second, Trump never mentioned a midterm election or any election at all, you are putting words in his mouth that he never said. He stated that if she was able to nominate judges that there was nothing anyone could do, except the Second Amendment people.
Judicial Watch used FOIA and released what they got to the media. They didn't make these emails up. Of course they had an agenda. That is why the sought these emails. Are you really this dense?

He never mentioned shooting her, either. Quit projecting.

OP has biased headline.  Surprise.  Nothing new is learned in these emails and seeing the pearl clutching that some are doing is sad. 
Deflect with personal attacks. Typical Jerry move.
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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2016, 10:24:32 AM »


If all further revelations are of this caliber, Clinton will be president.
I was unaware that pay-for-play politics was a normal part of every election.
You are either painfully naive or mindbogglingly obtuse.
Your spooked.

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And no, I'm not in the slightest.
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« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2016, 10:24:46 AM »

Is there any indication that the person being "taken care of" was a donor and not just someone who was very helpful or competent?
The person in question is connected to a wealthy Nigerian-Lebanese donor to the Clinton Foundation. Bill attended his wedding in France.

Cheryl Mills, Clinton aides aggressively tracked FOIA efforts.

Its the same article with a different headline. Theres nothing wrong with using your connections as Secretary of state, especially in a country like Lebanon.
So there is nothing wrong with using the government to reward donors to your personal cashcow?


Two different people actually. One name is redacted, the wealthy Lebanese mans was not.
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« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2016, 10:25:46 AM »


Judicial Watch used FOIA and released what they got to the media. They didn't make these emails up. Of course they had an agenda. That is why the sought these emails. Are you really this dense?

He never mentioned shooting her, either. Quit projecting.

Careful with the personal attacks, you don't want another removed post. There is nothing new or damning here. You are just trying to cover up for Trump calling for Clinton to be murdered. That's what he meant and everyone knows it. It's sick that anyone would agree with that or cover up for it.
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« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2016, 10:26:22 AM »


I hope so.
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« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2016, 10:26:44 AM »


The headlines were:

CNN: Newly released Clinton emails shed light on relationship between State Dept. and Clinton Foundation

NYT: Emails Renew Questions About Clinton Foundation and State Dept. Overlap

You're putting in your own spin and passing it off as CNN's headline.
That pretty much is the content of the two reports. I fail to see how headlines matter here. Care to discuss the story itself?

Except it's not. CNN says the emails raise questions, but at no point does CNN claim as you say they did that they show favors for donations.
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« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2016, 10:28:34 AM »

Trumpists really are a sad bunch. It's as if they can't read even simple e-mails.
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« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2016, 10:28:53 AM »

If all further revelations are of this caliber, Clinton will be president.
I was unaware that pay-for-play politics was a normal part of every election.
Well nothing revealed here is nearly as bad as what is already known about her.  Perhaps this does hurt her to some extent, but its going to take something much, much larger than this to actually change the dynamics of the race.
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« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2016, 10:29:26 AM »


The headlines were:

CNN: Newly released Clinton emails shed light on relationship between State Dept. and Clinton Foundation

NYT: Emails Renew Questions About Clinton Foundation and State Dept. Overlap

You're putting in your own spin and passing it off as CNN's headline.
That pretty much is the content of the two reports. I fail to see how headlines matter here. Care to discuss the story itself?

Except it's not. It says the emails raise questions, but at no point does CNN claim as you say they did that they show favors for donations.
This is pretty clear. The emails show Clinton trying to arrange favors for donors. CNN reported what the emails contained. Pretty cut and dry. The headline isn't important here.

I'm pretty sure he dumped his good stuff already. He claimed he has Trump's tax returns too, but never delivered. He's bluffing.
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« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2016, 10:29:55 AM »

Trumpists really are a sad bunch. It's as if they can't read even simple e-mails.

Not really surprising, tbh.
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« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2016, 10:32:52 AM »

Damming corruption indeed:

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« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2016, 10:37:16 AM »

Can we start a "BUT HILLARY!!!!11!!!!!" megathread?
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« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2016, 10:43:44 AM »

OP has biased headline.  Surprise.  Nothing new is learned in these emails and seeing the pearl clutching that some are doing is sad. 
Deflect with personal attacks. Typical Jerry move.
I never attacked you, I only referenced people in the thread.  If you thought that, your problem to deal with.
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« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2016, 10:44:45 AM »

Can we start a "BUT HILLARY!!!!11!!!!!" megathread?
So do you have an actual defense or are you just going to subsist on snark and more conspiracy theories about Putin?
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« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2016, 10:45:01 AM »

Here are the real corrupt emails for the day:

Christine Renna, who worked under Christie’s deputy chief of staff, texted another aide during a press conference in which Christie denied that his administration was involved in the 2013 George Washington Bridge lane closing. The text message was released Wednesday in a new court filing, first reported by NorthJersey.com.

“Are you listening? He just flat out lied about senior staff and [former deputy chief of staff Bill] Stepien not being involved,” Renna said in the message sent on Dec. 13, 2013.

“He lied,” she added. “And if emails are found with the subpoena of [campaign] emails are uncovered in discovery if it come to that it could be bad.”
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« Reply #42 on: August 10, 2016, 10:47:00 AM »

Here are the real corrupt emails for the day:

Christine Renna, who worked under Christie’s deputy chief of staff, texted another aide during a press conference in which Christie denied that his administration was involved in the 2013 George Washington Bridge lane closing. The text message was released Wednesday in a new court filing, first reported by NorthJersey.com.

“Are you listening? He just flat out lied about senior staff and [former deputy chief of staff Bill] Stepien not being involved,” Renna said in the message sent on Dec. 13, 2013.

“He lied,” she added. “And if emails are found with the subpoena of [campaign] emails are uncovered in discovery if it come to that it could be bad.”
Christie isn't on the ticket for a reason. Address the topic at hand.
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« Reply #43 on: August 10, 2016, 10:47:25 AM »

Can we start a "BUT HILLARY!!!!11!!!!!" megathread?
So do you have an actual defense or are you just going to subsist on snark and more conspiracy theories about Putin?
I'm looking through these emails and while they do reference Clinton Foundation donors for speeches and as contacts, there's not much beyond minor quid pro quo if you'd call it that.
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« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2016, 10:48:49 AM »

Can we start a "BUT HILLARY!!!!11!!!!!" megathread?
So do you have an actual defense or are you just going to subsist on snark and more conspiracy theories about Putin?
I'm looking through these emails and while they do reference Clinton Foundation donors for speeches and as contacts, there's not much beyond minor quid pro quo if you'd call it that.
This is the State Department. The Secretary should not be using her personal contacts and friends to conduct diplomacy. That type of "quid pro quo" is the type of stuff that led to the various abuses of the CIA under Johnson and Nixon.
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« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2016, 10:48:56 AM »

Here are the real corrupt emails for the day:

Christine Renna, who worked under Christie’s deputy chief of staff, texted another aide during a press conference in which Christie denied that his administration was involved in the 2013 George Washington Bridge lane closing. The text message was released Wednesday in a new court filing, first reported by NorthJersey.com.

“Are you listening? He just flat out lied about senior staff and [former deputy chief of staff Bill] Stepien not being involved,” Renna said in the message sent on Dec. 13, 2013.

“He lied,” she added. “And if emails are found with the subpoena of [campaign] emails are uncovered in discovery if it come to that it could be bad.”
Christie isn't on the ticket for a reason. Address the topic at hand.

I did address the "topic at hand" Chairman Sanchez. All that the Judicial Watch emails, all TWO of them, reveal, is that two people from the Clinton Foundation were put in contact with aides of Clinton at the State Dept. Can you show me where favors were exchanged? Then you'd be on to something.
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« Reply #46 on: August 10, 2016, 10:56:09 AM »

I don't understand, why are people deflecting and avoiding this? These emails are very minor and don't show anything besides minor quid pro quo, practiced in every democracy since the Athenians, and by every party.

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« Reply #47 on: August 10, 2016, 10:56:53 AM »

Here are the real corrupt emails for the day:

Christine Renna, who worked under Christie’s deputy chief of staff, texted another aide during a press conference in which Christie denied that his administration was involved in the 2013 George Washington Bridge lane closing. The text message was released Wednesday in a new court filing, first reported by NorthJersey.com.

“Are you listening? He just flat out lied about senior staff and [former deputy chief of staff Bill] Stepien not being involved,” Renna said in the message sent on Dec. 13, 2013.

“He lied,” she added. “And if emails are found with the subpoena of [campaign] emails are uncovered in discovery if it come to that it could be bad.”
Christie isn't on the ticket for a reason. Address the topic at hand.

I did address the "topic at hand" Chairman Sanchez. All that the Judicial Watch emails, all TWO of them, reveal, is that two people from the Clinton Foundation were put in contact with aides of Clinton at the State Dept. Can you show me where favors were exchanged? Then you'd be on to something.
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« Reply #48 on: August 10, 2016, 10:57:51 AM »

I don't understand, why are people deflecting and avoiding this? These emails are very minor and don't show anything besides minor quid pro quo, practiced in every democracy since the Athenians, and by every party.
Quid pro quo is appointing a big donor Ambassador to Norway, not taking bribes through a front Foundation in exchange for influence.
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« Reply #49 on: August 10, 2016, 10:59:10 AM »

Can we start a "BUT HILLARY!!!!11!!!!!" megathread?
So do you have an actual defense or are you just going to subsist on snark and more conspiracy theories about Putin?

I pedal conspiracy theories about Putin? lol, okay... what do these emails do other than merely "raise questions?" If it's a case of quid pro quo (not clear from the emails,) that's not great, but does it disqualify someone from the presidency? Not many people are arguing that these damn emails are great for Hillary, but they're not more than a minor concern that are used as an excuse to disqualify her by her detractors.
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