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Question: Hmm?
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Trump ahead or tied
 
#2
Clinton +1-3
 
#3
Clinton +4-6
 
#4
Clinton +7-9
 
#5
Clinton +10-14
 
#6
Clinton +15 or more
 
#7
Trump won't even be in the race
 
#8
Hillary will be in prison
 
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Lyin' Steve
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« on: August 03, 2016, 11:52:16 PM »

Put your money where your mouth is Atlas.  If Clinton's really going to completely humiliate Trump, or Trump's gonna drop out, then make your vote.  This is basically after both convention bounces are completely over, Trump's current set of controversies blows over, and we've had another week and a half of unpredictable events.
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2016, 11:54:22 PM »

I would think C+8 or 9, although I wouldn't be surprised if Trump imploded, and Hillary went to more than +10
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2016, 11:58:11 PM »
« Edited: August 04, 2016, 12:02:03 AM by kyc0705 »

Donald Trump will have dropped out, Hillary Clinton will be in prison, Gary Johnson will have received a lucrative offer to run the Colorado marijuana industry, and Jill Stein will be recovering from a severe Wi-fi related illness.

As a result, the great and powerful Harambe will rise from the dead and sail to victory, becoming our 45th president.

(But seriously, to answer your question Clinton will probably be up by just under ten points.)
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2016, 12:06:57 AM »

Clinton +8, and this battleground:



(Colors denote Safe, Likely, and Lean.)
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2016, 02:00:11 AM »
« Edited: August 04, 2016, 02:03:49 AM by Seriously? »

I put it back in the Clinton 3-5 point range (not an option here) after the convention bounces wear off over the next week or so.

Fundamentally, all that is moving these polls is increased partisan intensity post-convention. It will bounce back to the status quo, like it always does.

Atlas, of course, is overreacting in the spur of the moment as per usual.
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2016, 08:20:20 AM »

Atlas, of course, is overreacting in the spur of the moment as per usual.

As is Republican party leadership, Trump's own campaign staff, the entire media establishment, Obama, poll respondents...
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2016, 08:26:08 AM »

RCP Average: Clinton 48.9%; Trump 40.5% (Clinton +8.4%)

Something like this I guess.
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2016, 09:03:55 AM »

My brain says CLinton +7-9, but she's running against Trump so... she'll have a double digit lead
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2016, 09:13:54 AM »

The thing is that Clinton is getting a bump not only from the convention but also Trump going full crazy for the past week (basically since his Russia claims). While the convention bump will most likely recede, I don't see how he gain back the people who now think he's clinically insane. I'm going to guess that Hillary's lead will be around 7% by the end of next week.
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2016, 09:14:55 AM »

Clinton +4
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2016, 09:23:35 AM »

Clinton +6 to +7, went with the latter, though the former wouldn't surprise me at all.
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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2016, 09:35:38 AM »

As the Economist said, "it's shocking how bad [Hillary] is doing, given the circumstances."  She'll be up by about 7.  A generic D with no baggage might be up double digits.
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2016, 10:03:55 AM »

As the Economist said, "it's shocking how bad [Hillary] is doing, given the circumstances."  She'll be up by about 7.  A generic D with no baggage might be up double digits.

This will never exist because the right-wing hate machine will find something to hate. Even Joe Biden.
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2016, 10:15:33 AM »

As the Economist said, "it's shocking how bad [Hillary] is doing, given the circumstances."  She'll be up by about 7.  A generic D with no baggage might be up double digits.
No. The country is so polarized politically that the base of either party will rally to their candidate no mater who's on the other ticket.

Biggest win you can get these days is about 10 points.
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2016, 10:19:00 AM »

As the Economist said, "it's shocking how bad [Hillary] is doing, given the circumstances."  She'll be up by about 7.  A generic D with no baggage might be up double digits.
A recent PPP poll that had Clinton up 5 had Obama up 9, so there's your answer.
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« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2016, 10:27:03 AM »

As the Economist said, "it's shocking how bad [Hillary] is doing, given the circumstances."  She'll be up by about 7.  A generic D with no baggage might be up double digits.
A recent PPP poll that had Clinton up 5 had Obama up 9, so there's your answer.

Obama has been President for 8 years, that hardly fits my profile.  The party's bases comprise NO more than 35% of the electorate.
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« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2016, 02:26:12 PM »

I voted yesterday with "Clinton +7-9."
And the RCP average is inching closer and closer to it.
As of this afternoon (Aug 4), Hillary is at +5.8 (two-way).
The 4-way race has Clinton +5.0
To be continued ...
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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2016, 02:34:48 PM »

Atlas, of course, is overreacting in the spur of the moment as per usual.

As is Republican party leadership, Trump's own campaign staff, the entire media establishment, Obama, poll respondents...
The media yes. Obama for political reasons, yes.

Trump's own staff. Not so much.
The RNC. Not so much.
You are getting hysteria from the press here. The campaign appears to be working properly.

The polls are what they are out of the DNC. The convention bounce will recede, like they always do.
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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2016, 02:35:59 PM »

Madame Clinton leading by seven points.
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« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2016, 02:51:27 PM »
« Edited: August 05, 2016, 02:53:03 PM by ProudModerate2 »

I put it back in the Clinton 3-5 point range (not an option here) after the convention bounces wear off over the next week or so.
Fundamentally, all that is moving these polls is increased partisan intensity post-convention. It will bounce back to the status quo, like it always does.
Atlas, of course, is overreacting in the spur of the moment as per usual.

The RCP average closing-numbers for end-of-day Aug 4th shows :

Two-way race  = Clinton +6.8
Four-way race  = Clinton +6.3

Will our Mr Seriously "eat crow" with his prediction of Hillary +3 to +5 range ?
The thread time frame asks what the results will be on Aug 12 (exactly one week from today).
To be continued ....
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« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2016, 02:52:14 PM »

Clinton +5
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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2016, 01:04:32 PM »
« Edited: August 10, 2016, 03:01:44 PM by ProudModerate2 »

** UPDATE **

The RCP average closing-numbers for end-of-day Aug 8th shows :

Two-way race  = Clinton +7.9
Four-way race  = Clinton +7.6

The thread time frame asks what the results will be on Aug 12.
To be continued ....
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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2016, 10:02:22 PM »

The race right now is Clinton +7-8.
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« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2016, 11:02:03 PM »

Yay, I was right, but it really wasn't that hard to see where the polling trends were going to be fair.
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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2016, 11:05:19 PM »


Yep, hit the nail on the head. I wonder how the second amendment comment will play out in the coming polls next week.
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