Is Rubio about to become the "establishment's" candidate?

[Gog]

The word "RINO" is fake and manufactured. All political parties require diverse factions and groups to function, and with this obsession over purity and fake members it is causing the GOP to fall into a civil war.

No we do not need diverse factions if they act like liberals we need to purge them out we don't need Leftists in our party.

When you call mild center rightists and centerists leftists that need to be purged like some Russian communist party there's a problem.

If they're not fighting for the principles of less government and reducing the debt and ending wars then they are Democrat-lites and need to go be a Democrat.

There are many conservative democrats around. Why is the Republican Party so special that it can't actually be a big tent, but only one where ideological purists talk about purging moderates. And the definition of moderate isn't just actual centerists, but center right that I've never heard wanting to raise taxes or anything of that type. The GOP won in the 20th century due to being able to accept liberals, conservatives, and Dixiecrats to build a coalition. Seems like it's being dominated by the latter now.

[Donald Trump 2016 !]

Changing ones views immediately before running for office is sure "learning" isn't it?

Most of his views solidified between 2012 to now.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

The word "RINO" is fake and manufactured. All political parties require diverse factions and groups to function, and with this obsession over purity and fake members it is causing the GOP to fall into a civil war.

No we do not need diverse factions if they act like liberals we need to purge them out we don't need Leftists in our party.

When you call mild center rightists and centerists leftists that need to be purged like some Russian communist party there's a problem.

If they're not fighting for the principles of less government and reducing the debt and ending wars then they are Democrat-lites and need to go be a Democrat.

There are many conservative democrats around. Why is the Republican Party so special that it can't actually be a big tent, but only one where ideological purists talk about purging moderates. And the definition of moderate isn't just actual centerists, but center right that I've never heard wanting to raise taxes or anything of that type. The GOP won in the 20th century due to being able to accept liberals, conservatives, and Dixiecrats to build a coalition. Seems like it's being dominated by the latter now.

And that coalition have as a RINO named George W. Bush we don't need liberals they're a detriment to our party and we didn't win because we have liberal support we won because we ran a positive conservative campaign (although Bush later betrayed that)

[Donald Trump 2016 !]

The word "RINO" is fake and manufactured. All political parties require diverse factions and groups to function, and with this obsession over purity and fake members it is causing the GOP to fall into a civil war.

No we do not need diverse factions if they act like liberals we need to purge them out we don't need Leftists in our party.

When you call mild center rightists and centerists leftists that need to be purged like some Russian communist party there's a problem.

If they're not fighting for the principles of less government and reducing the debt and ending wars then they are Democrat-lites and need to go be a Democrat.

There are many conservative democrats around. Why is the Republican Party so special that it can't actually be a big tent, but only one where ideological purists talk about purging moderates. And the definition of moderate isn't just actual centerists, but center right that I've never heard wanting to raise taxes or anything of that type. The GOP won in the 20th century due to being able to accept liberals, conservatives, and Dixiecrats to build a coalition. Seems like it's being dominated by the latter now.

And that coalition have as a RINO named George W. Bush we don't need liberals they're a detriment to our party and we didn't win because we have liberal support we won because we ran a positive conservative campaign (although Bush later betrayed that)

Tell me again about how successful Ron Paul's 2008 and 2012 campaigns were.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Ron Paul is irrelevant to this discussion.

[Donald Trump 2016 !]

Ron Paul is irrelevant to this discussion.

Name one way his son is doing better on the campaign trail.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Also Gog3451 you're not a Republican don't lecture us about how to run our party. The Democrats already have a disaster in the making.

[Gog]

The word "RINO" is fake and manufactured. All political parties require diverse factions and groups to function, and with this obsession over purity and fake members it is causing the GOP to fall into a civil war.

No we do not need diverse factions if they act like liberals we need to purge them out we don't need Leftists in our party.

When you call mild center rightists and centerists leftists that need to be purged like some Russian communist party there's a problem.

If they're not fighting for the principles of less government and reducing the debt and ending wars then they are Democrat-lites and need to go be a Democrat.

There are many conservative democrats around. Why is the Republican Party so special that it can't actually be a big tent, but only one where ideological purists talk about purging moderates. And the definition of moderate isn't just actual centerists, but center right that I've never heard wanting to raise taxes or anything of that type. The GOP won in the 20th century due to being able to accept liberals, conservatives, and Dixiecrats to build a coalition. Seems like it's being dominated by the latter now.

And that coalition have as a RINO named George W. Bush we don't need liberals they're a detriment to our party and we didn't win because we have liberal support we won because we ran a positive conservative campaign (although Bush later betrayed that)

George W. Bush was  RINO? Jeez that's something. Liberals started to be purged from th party in the Reagan era, and they were all gone by Dubya except for slowpokes like Lincoln Chafee Jim Jeffords and Charlie Crist sort of.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Ron Paul is irrelevant to this discussion.

Name one way his son is doing better on the campaign trail.

He's not because he is making the mistake of playing both sides and losing both sides, and I'm not as Pro-Rand as everyone thinks I am.

[Gog]

Also Gog3451 you're not a Republican don't lecture us about how to run our party. The Democrats already have a disaster in the making.

well I suppose I tried. Don't tell me I didn't warn you, when your congress, primary and leadership is in tatters as it is now, there a reason.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

The word "RINO" is fake and manufactured. All political parties require diverse factions and groups to function, and with this obsession over purity and fake members it is causing the GOP to fall into a civil war.

No we do not need diverse factions if they act like liberals we need to purge them out we don't need Leftists in our party.

When you call mild center rightists and centerists leftists that need to be purged like some Russian communist party there's a problem.

If they're not fighting for the principles of less government and reducing the debt and ending wars then they are Democrat-lites and need to go be a Democrat.

There are many conservative democrats around. Why is the Republican Party so special that it can't actually be a big tent, but only one where ideological purists talk about purging moderates. And the definition of moderate isn't just actual centerists, but center right that I've never heard wanting to raise taxes or anything of that type. The GOP won in the 20th century due to being able to accept liberals, conservatives, and Dixiecrats to build a coalition. Seems like it's being dominated by the latter now.

And that coalition have as a RINO named George W. Bush we don't need liberals they're a detriment to our party and we didn't win because we have liberal support we won because we ran a positive conservative campaign (although Bush later betrayed that)

George W. Bush was  RINO? Jeez that's something. Liberals started to be purged from th party in the Reagan era, and they were all gone by Dubya except for slowpokes like Lincoln Chafee Jim Jeffords and Charlie Crist sort of.

Thank the heavens all three of them our out of our party they're all losers anyway

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Also Gog3451 you're not a Republican don't lecture us about how to run our party. The Democrats already have a disaster in the making.

well I suppose I tried. Don't tell me I didn't warn you, when your congress, primary and leadership is in tatters as it is now, there a reason.

And we won because we ran a conservative campaign and liberal policy wasn't working

[Donald Trump 2016 !]

Trump isn't obsessed with ending the war on drugs the way Rand is. For Rand it's one of his most important issues. If Ron Paul had such a profound affect on the Republican race his son wouldn't be polling at 2-3%. Especially since his father was polling much much higher at this time. Who respects Rand that doesn't respect Ron?

[Donald Trump 2016 !]

The word "RINO" is fake and manufactured. All political parties require diverse factions and groups to function, and with this obsession over purity and fake members it is causing the GOP to fall into a civil war.

No we do not need diverse factions if they act like liberals we need to purge them out we don't need Leftists in our party.

When you call mild center rightists and centerists leftists that need to be purged like some Russian communist party there's a problem.

If they're not fighting for the principles of less government and reducing the debt and ending wars then they are Democrat-lites and need to go be a Democrat.

There are many conservative democrats around. Why is the Republican Party so special that it can't actually be a big tent, but only one where ideological purists talk about purging moderates. And the definition of moderate isn't just actual centerists, but center right that I've never heard wanting to raise taxes or anything of that type. The GOP won in the 20th century due to being able to accept liberals, conservatives, and Dixiecrats to build a coalition. Seems like it's being dominated by the latter now.

The difference between conservative democrats and liberal republicans is that conservative democrats want to grow the size of government at the end of the day. Just in a more efficient manner. Liberal republicans do not want to shrink the size of government. That is antithetical to what our party is supposed to be about. Additionally, they have done nothing moderately in recent times. Part D was a huge growth in social welfare along with the ridiculous Department of Homeland Security.

Trump isn't obsessed with ending the war on drugs the way Rand is. For Rand it's one of his most important issues. If Ron Paul had such a profound affect on the Republican race he wouldn't be polling at 2-3%. Especially since his father was polling much much higher at this time. Who respects Rand that doesn't respect Ron?

That's irrelevant because trump still wants to end it. He's called it stupid. I honestly don't care if reducing black incarceration is a major issue for Trump. If he still supports it, then your point is mute.

You can go ahead and believe that. At the end of the day though, Trump genuinely believes that personal drug use isn't good. Paul's history of being aqua buddha is much more unclear.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

How is Aqua Buddha even a thing? Why are you making it a thing?

[Donald Trump 2016 !]

How is Aqua Buddha even a thing? Why are you making it a thing?

It was part of his college days. Some secret society where his friends would smoke weed and force people to pray to their aqua buddha.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

How is Aqua Buddha even a thing? Why are you making it a thing?

It was part of his college days. Some secret society where his friends would smoke weed and force people to pray to their aqua buddha.

So what if people smoked weed and prayed to Aqua Buddha?

[Gog]

The word "RINO" is fake and manufactured. All political parties require diverse factions and groups to function, and with this obsession over purity and fake members it is causing the GOP to fall into a civil war.

No we do not need diverse factions if they act like liberals we need to purge them out we don't need Leftists in our party.

When you call mild center rightists and centerists leftists that need to be purged like some Russian communist party there's a problem.

If they're not fighting for the principles of less government and reducing the debt and ending wars then they are Democrat-lites and need to go be a Democrat.

There are many conservative democrats around. Why is the Republican Party so special that it can't actually be a big tent, but only one where ideological purists talk about purging moderates. And the definition of moderate isn't just actual centerists, but center right that I've never heard wanting to raise taxes or anything of that type. The GOP won in the 20th century due to being able to accept liberals, conservatives, and Dixiecrats to build a coalition. Seems like it's being dominated by the latter now.

The difference between conservative democrats and liberal republicans is that conservative democrats want to grow the size of government at the end of the day. Just in a more efficient manner. Liberal republicans do not want to shrink the size of government. That is antithetical to what our party is supposed to be about. Additionally, they have done nothing moderately in recent times. Part D was a huge growth in social welfare along with the ridiculous Department of Homeland Security.

There is no "what it's supposed to be about" the GOP was a big tent party, and it was until the eighties when it surrendered to far right and former Dixiecrats. Before then there was  a great deal of diversity and partisanship was far less. People could get very big things done and unite against America's enemies. Bills could be passed and both parties agreed on many things with such a big tent. While both parties have detained that consensus, there are still many blue dogs and conservitves in the Democrats. The GOP is one of the furthest right major parties in our political history, outclassed only by the anti catholic American Party and anti black American Independent. It's time for both parties to get together to try and actually get things passed as the people want, and to end foolish partisan bickering that will tear the nation apart. I would like to quote George Washington here,

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these are the ideals america was dreamed upon, what was founded on, not these divisive thoughts that will make our own people hate each other.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

The people wanted a REPUBLICAN Congress not a DEMOCRAT one so we govern it's Obama who isn't compromising with us.

[Gog]

The people wanted a REPUBLICAN Congress not a DEMOCRAT one so we govern it's Obama who isn't compromising with us.

How come you guys almost couldn't get a speaker then? Only the reluctant entry of Paul Ryan saved your asses there.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

And the Democrats just had a debate about whether or not Capitalism was an evil system please tell me where are the conservative Democrats? You had Jim Webb and you guys forced him out so...

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

The Democrats are quickly becoming a socialist party so spare me the lecture about how our party isn't "big tent" when you guys laugh at moderate Democrats.

[Gog]

And the Democrats just had a debate about whether or not Capitalism was an evil system please tell me where are the conservative Democrats? You had Jim Webb and you guys forced him out so...

thats irelevent for me because I believe in capitalism as a system. And Jim Webb left on his own.

[Gog]

The Democrats are quickly becoming a socialist party so spare me the lecture about how our party isn't "big tent" when you guys laugh at moderate Democrats.

Just like how the GOP is becoming the Trump party to draw a comparison?

[Gog]

This is why liberals need to be purged from our society

What like Stalin did to everyone not communist in Russia? There's some irony.