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« Reply #775 on: August 23, 2018, 07:12:03 PM »

Warren Entsch makes a good point
"This cancer started when Brendan Nelson got trashed, and it’s never been the bloody same since. Rolling leaders has become a culture. We’ve got to clean it. We have to. It’s about time for a bit of loyalty, a bit of respect."
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« Reply #776 on: August 23, 2018, 07:18:44 PM »

If anyone wants to read the Solicitor General's full advice.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4782087-20180824-Solicitor-General-Advice-Re-Dutton.html
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« Reply #777 on: August 23, 2018, 07:27:14 PM »

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« Reply #778 on: August 23, 2018, 07:43:02 PM »

ABC SAYS FIFIELD HAS FLIPPED TO TEAM SCOMO
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« Reply #779 on: August 23, 2018, 08:12:53 PM »

I just think it's pretty ridiculous how leadership changes in Australia aren't up to a membership vote. Makes it much easier for power-thirsty politicians to act out of their own self-interest.
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« Reply #780 on: August 23, 2018, 08:15:22 PM »

I just think it's pretty ridiculous how leadership changes in Australia aren't up to a membership vote. Makes it much easier for power-thirsty politicians to act out of their own self-interest.
Labor gives half the vote to their members, and the other half to their parliamentarians, however I guarantee you they'll remove it as soon as they win the next election.
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« Reply #781 on: August 23, 2018, 08:15:32 PM »

I just think it's pretty ridiculous how leadership changes in Australia aren't up to a membership vote. Makes it much easier for power-thirsty politicians to act out of their own self-interest.

It seems that the risk, historically, was that one or the other of the two big parties qua coalitions of conservative and liberal forces polarised by labour issues would fall apart without this kind of rotation in office via assassination.
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« Reply #782 on: August 23, 2018, 08:27:07 PM »

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« Reply #783 on: August 23, 2018, 08:33:48 PM »

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« Reply #784 on: August 23, 2018, 08:37:44 PM »

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« Reply #785 on: August 23, 2018, 08:45:56 PM »

TURNBULL WILL RESIGN AND QUIT PARLIAMENT IMMEDIATELY
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« Reply #786 on: August 23, 2018, 09:09:10 PM »

TURNBULL WILL RESIGN AND QUIT PARLIAMENT IMMEDIATELY

Surely, Turnbull's continuing to stare down his opponents, praying that the spill motion itself fails.  After all, some of those 43 signatures are Turnbull supporters, apparently, who just want to have things resolved (i.e. the petition has 43 signatures asking for a party room meeting to be called, but that doesn't necessarily mean there 43 votes for a spill motion). So it isn't absolutely guaranteed that the spill motion will be passed; isn't that his one last shot at victory before having to force himself to leave parliament immediately?
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« Reply #787 on: August 23, 2018, 09:11:19 PM »

So should we all just expect Dutton to be Prime Minister within the next couple of hours, or is there hope for someone less sh**tty like Bishop to fill the spot?
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« Reply #788 on: August 23, 2018, 09:13:39 PM »

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« Reply #789 on: August 23, 2018, 09:14:25 PM »

TURNBULL WILL RESIGN AND QUIT PARLIAMENT IMMEDIATELY

Surely, Turnbull's continuing to stare down his opponents, praying that the spill motion itself fails.  After all, some of those 43 signatures are Turnbull supporters, apparently, who just want to have things resolved (i.e. the petition has 43 signatures asking for a party room meeting to be called, but that doesn't necessarily mean there 43 votes for a spill motion). So it isn't absolutely guaranteed that the spill motion will be passed; isn't that his one last shot at victory before having to force himself to leave parliament immediately?
No. 43 Signatures mean 43 votes for a spill. The spill motion will be near unanimous.
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« Reply #790 on: August 23, 2018, 09:15:16 PM »

So should we all just expect Dutton to be Prime Minister within the next couple of hours?
Almost certainly.
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« Reply #791 on: August 23, 2018, 09:16:37 PM »

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« Reply #792 on: August 23, 2018, 09:18:28 PM »

So should we all just expect Dutton to be Prime Minister within the next couple of hours?

Dutton or Scott Morrison, it seems; apparently Bishop is currently expected to be eliminated in the first round (though, of course, Joe Hockey was seen as the favourite to win the ballot in 2009, yet was promptly knocked out in the first round of voting)
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« Reply #793 on: August 23, 2018, 09:19:06 PM »

Bob Katter has offered Peter Dutton supply.
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« Reply #794 on: August 23, 2018, 09:36:47 PM »

Spill motion carried 45-40
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« Reply #795 on: August 23, 2018, 09:37:21 PM »

TURNBULL WILL RESIGN AND QUIT PARLIAMENT IMMEDIATELY

Surely, Turnbull's continuing to stare down his opponents, praying that the spill motion itself fails.  After all, some of those 43 signatures are Turnbull supporters, apparently, who just want to have things resolved (i.e. the petition has 43 signatures asking for a party room meeting to be called, but that doesn't necessarily mean there 43 votes for a spill motion). So it isn't absolutely guaranteed that the spill motion will be passed; isn't that his one last shot at victory before having to force himself to leave parliament immediately?
No. 43 Signatures mean 43 votes for a spill. The spill motion will be near unanimous.

The spill motion has been carried 45-40. So a leadership contest will take place & Turnbull is officially done.
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« Reply #796 on: August 23, 2018, 09:39:42 PM »

TURNBULL WILL RESIGN AND QUIT PARLIAMENT IMMEDIATELY

Surely, Turnbull's continuing to stare down his opponents, praying that the spill motion itself fails.  After all, some of those 43 signatures are Turnbull supporters, apparently, who just want to have things resolved (i.e. the petition has 43 signatures asking for a party room meeting to be called, but that doesn't necessarily mean there 43 votes for a spill motion). So it isn't absolutely guaranteed that the spill motion will be passed; isn't that his one last shot at victory before having to force himself to leave parliament immediately?
No. 43 Signatures mean 43 votes for a spill. The spill motion will be near unanimous.

The spill motion has been carried 45-40. So a leadership contest will take place & Turnbull is officially done.
I did not expect the spill motion to be contested. This is good news for Bishop.
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« Reply #797 on: August 23, 2018, 09:41:51 PM »

TURNBULL WILL RESIGN AND QUIT PARLIAMENT IMMEDIATELY

Surely, Turnbull's continuing to stare down his opponents, praying that the spill motion itself fails.  After all, some of those 43 signatures are Turnbull supporters, apparently, who just want to have things resolved (i.e. the petition has 43 signatures asking for a party room meeting to be called, but that doesn't necessarily mean there 43 votes for a spill motion). So it isn't absolutely guaranteed that the spill motion will be passed; isn't that his one last shot at victory before having to force himself to leave parliament immediately?
No. 43 Signatures mean 43 votes for a spill. The spill motion will be near unanimous.

The spill motion has been carried 45-40. So a leadership contest will take place & Turnbull is officially done.
I did not expect the spill motion to be contested. This is good news for Bishop.

Oh, how so for Bishop in particular?
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« Reply #798 on: August 23, 2018, 09:42:51 PM »

TURNBULL WILL RESIGN AND QUIT PARLIAMENT IMMEDIATELY
Surely, Turnbull's continuing to stare down his opponents, praying that the spill motion itself fails.  After all, some of those 43 signatures are Turnbull supporters, apparently, who just want to have things resolved (i.e. the petition has 43 signatures asking for a party room meeting to be called, but that doesn't necessarily mean there 43 votes for a spill motion). So it isn't absolutely guaranteed that the spill motion will be passed; isn't that his one last shot at victory before having to force himself to leave parliament immediately?
No. 43 Signatures mean 43 votes for a spill. The spill motion will be near unanimous.
The spill motion has been carried 45-40. So a leadership contest will take place & Turnbull is officially done.
I did not expect the spill motion to be contested. This is good news for Bishop.
Oh, how so for Bishop in particular?
47% of MPs still support Turnbull's leadership. Julie is running as Turnbull's successor.
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« Reply #799 on: August 23, 2018, 09:45:14 PM »

Julie Bishop eliminated.
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