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Question: Who would it be?
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Abraham Lincoln
 
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James Garfield
 
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William McKinley
 
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John Kennedy
 
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I'd like to kill more
 
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« on: May 09, 2005, 07:25:01 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2005, 07:29:14 PM »

John F. Kennedy. We could have perhaps avoided Lyndon Johnson and the Great Society.

I think that Lincoln was a useful President during his first term, but he might not have restrained the Radical Republicans during his second like Andrew Johnson tried to do. At the risk of sounding callous, I would say that Garfield's death precipitated civil service reform, and McKinley's death brought an excellent President to power.
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2005, 08:00:04 PM »

I chose option 5 Shocked
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2005, 08:01:06 PM »


I thought you were "pro-life"
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2005, 08:05:32 PM »


I only recently switched sides
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2005, 08:06:36 PM »

Over that one verse you completely misinterpreted, and need to read a proper translation of?
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2005, 08:21:17 PM »

Over that one verse you completely misinterpreted, and need to read a proper translation of?

How do you explain the many centuries of highly intelligent Jewish scholars who have translated the verse as "miscarriage"?
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2005, 08:37:48 PM »

Centuries of translation of something that's thousands of years old. Yawn.

http://www.str.org/free/commentaries/abortion/whatexod.htm
http://www.prolifetalk.com/message-board-forum/post-7689.html
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2005, 08:46:40 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2005, 08:49:08 PM »

What, do yout think I'm HAPPY about abortion being all right? I'm not! It is with great sorrow that I've switched sides based not just on that verse, but on several other verses as well which quite plainly state that life begins at "first breath".

Also, a lot of Christians need to consider this verse:

2 Timothy 4:3 - For the time is coming when people will not put up with sound doctrine, but having itching ears, they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own desires

PS: Sorry for pretty much hijacking the thread Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2005, 08:55:02 PM »

Lincoln. He would have instituted a lenient Reconstruction plan, thus avoiding much of the bitterness which followed the war.
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2005, 09:14:47 PM »

McKinley. Era of Business would continue longer.
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2005, 09:18:11 PM »

What, do yout think I'm HAPPY about abortion being all right? I'm not! It is with great sorrow that I've switched sides based not just on that verse, but on several other verses as well which quite plainly state that life begins at "first breath".

Also, a lot of Christians need to consider this verse:

2 Timothy 4:3 - For the time is coming when people will not put up with sound doctrine, but having itching ears, they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own desires

PS: Sorry for pretty much hijacking the thread Tongue

So if a baby needs breathing support, it's okay to just kill the SOB instead?
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2005, 09:21:20 PM »

McKinley. Era of Business would continue longer.

Kevin Phillips, in his excellent biography of McKinley, makes a convincing case that McKinley was planning to take on the trusts when he was murdered.
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2005, 09:23:46 PM »

McKinley. Era of Business would continue longer.

Kevin Phillips, in his excellent biography of McKinley, makes a convincing case that McKinley was planning to take on the trusts when he was murdered.

Dang, I havn't read that yet. I will look into it though.

I did not know that though. I would assume he would not have gone as far as TR did though.
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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2005, 11:10:15 PM »

This is a tough one...
the effect of Lincoln's assassination is overrated, though...
I really really like Garfield, but his assassination might have benefited the country in the long run...

So I have to go with Kennedy.  No assassination = no Johnson, so I'm very happy.
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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2005, 03:52:57 AM »

Kennedy. His death messed up the political climate for decades. No assassination = no President Johnson = No serious cock-ups over Vietnam = no social turmoil = no President Nixon = no Watergate. Well, at least that's the way I see it.
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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2005, 09:30:24 AM »

I chose to save Kennedy, but a good case could be made for Lincoln.  Senn from the point of view of what’s best for the country, the Garfield assaination was definitely and the McKinley assassination probably were beneficial.

Of course, the 1968 Democratic convention would have been interesting with Vice Presidents Sanford and Johnson vyiong for the nomination.
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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2005, 05:40:55 PM »

Lincoln then McKinley, Kennedy wasn't that good. He shouldn't have died but....
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« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2005, 05:48:29 PM »

Lincoln then McKinley, Kennedy wasn't that good. He shouldn't have died but....
Well, at least he was better than Johnson...
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« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2005, 12:42:57 AM »

McKinley...mainly to stop T.Roosevelt. The Lincoln execution was obviously a heroic act by a very brave man.
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« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2005, 12:58:45 AM »

That's sick states.  I would never advocate the murder of a human no matter how much I despised the man or woman.  Anywhoo, my vote goes to Kennedy just to keep LBJ out of office.
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« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2005, 01:14:40 AM »

That's sick states.  I would never advocate the murder of a human no matter how much I despised the man or woman.  Anywhoo, my vote goes to Kennedy just to keep LBJ out of office.

Lincoln pushed for the murder of hundreds of southern civilians during the war of northern agression not to mention Shermans horrific actions in NC in the drowning of hundreds of freed slaves.
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« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2005, 12:05:53 PM »

McKinley...mainly to stop T.Roosevelt. The Lincoln execution was obviously a heroic act by a very brave man.

J. Wilkes Boothe was a coward who never brought himself to serve in the CSA Army or Navy. He is no hero. He snuck up behind and unarmed man for crying out loud!
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« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2005, 12:08:29 PM »

Lincoln's. Would the other assassinations even have occurred without that powerful role model?
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