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« on: May 08, 2005, 01:20:02 PM »

inspired from this post: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=21670.0

It's clearly obvious it'd be kind of difficult for a group that makes up 80% of the population to be opressed. Unless you had some sort of apartheid system set up, but it's also clearly obvious the other 20% is not in control. So there is no way Christians can be oppressed in American despite what the religious right would like to claim.

For that matter I have never been in any circumstance were I was oppressed for being Christian, so my personal experience says no.

Lesson: Religious right needs to quit whining.
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2005, 01:21:43 PM »

No, just the opposite, they control the country and oppress we non-christians.
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2005, 01:22:48 PM »

Generally speaking, no. But some rules and restrictions do seem too tight to me.
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2005, 01:24:10 PM »

Pat Robertson once said something along the lines of that Christians in America are in the same status of Jews in Nazi Germany.

moral? Pat Robertson is a ing idiot.
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2005, 01:29:12 PM »

Pat Robertson being a Fecking idiot isn't exactly news
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2005, 01:34:59 PM »

Yes, Christians are being opressed by the public school system that keeps teaching moral relativism and undermining the moral foundations of the world's youth.
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2005, 01:39:37 PM »

despite the fact that it is mostly ran by Christians. And I didn't suffer any oppression in it.
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2005, 01:50:30 PM »

I wouldn't say Christians are oppressed, but I think that there is a strong anti-Christian current in many segments of society, such as academia and the entertainment industry.

If you don't think it's possible for a majority of a society to be oppressed, look at South Africa during apartheid.  It certain is possible if a majority is somehow stripped of its ability to assert its rights and fight back against oppression.
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2005, 01:51:48 PM »

Yes, Christians are being opressed by the public school system that keeps teaching moral relativism and undermining the moral foundations of the world's youth.

Why shouldn't people be taught about moral relativism?  Is ignorance a prerequisite for 'moral foundations'?
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2005, 01:56:30 PM »

Yes, Christians are being opressed by the public school system that keeps teaching moral relativism and undermining the moral foundations of the world's youth.

Why shouldn't people be taught about moral relativism?  Is ignorance a prerequisite for 'moral foundations'?

Taught about yes.
Being preached at, no.
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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2005, 01:57:24 PM »

I wouldn't say Christians are oppressed, but I think that there is a strong anti-Christian current in many segments of society, such as academia and the entertainment industry.

If you don't think it's possible for a majority of a society to be oppressed, look at South Africa during apartheid.  It certain is possible if a majority is somehow stripped of its ability to assert its rights and fight back against oppression.

Read the first post again. I gave that example. However, the non-Christians do not hold all the positions of power. In fact, they hold almost none.
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2005, 01:58:45 PM »

I wouldn't say Christians are oppressed, but I think that there is a strong anti-Christian current in many segments of society, such as academia and the entertainment industry.

If you don't think it's possible for a majority of a society to be oppressed, look at South Africa during apartheid.  It certain is possible if a majority is somehow stripped of its ability to assert its rights and fight back against oppression.

Read the first post again. I gave that example. However, the non-Christians do not hold all the positions of power. In fact, they hold almost none.

not openly.
However, a good number of the so called Christians that hold positions of power are nothing but panws of the ones controling it all.
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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2005, 01:58:49 PM »

Yes, Christians are being opressed by the public school system that keeps teaching moral relativism and undermining the moral foundations of the world's youth.

And guess who makes up the rules in public schools? Christians themselves!  There are many Christians I know that don't want their own religion, albeit born into, forced down their throats.  I know I have been written off as a disgruntled CINO that's just acting out in the past, but there is a lot of truth to it.
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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2005, 02:02:53 PM »

Yes, Christians are being opressed by the public school system that keeps teaching moral relativism and undermining the moral foundations of the world's youth.

And guess who makes up the rules in public schools? Christians themselves!  There are many Christians I know that don't want their own religion, albeit born into, forced down their throats.  I know I have been written off as a disgruntled CINO that's just acting out in the past, but there is a lot of truth to it.

I of coruse support the right of children to secede form their parents and declare independence.
There is no merit in forcing Christianity on someone, because only where sinners are present in their condition can the glory of God shine properly through the elect.
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2005, 02:39:54 PM »

....a good number of the so called Christians that hold positions of power are nothing but panws of the ones controling it all.

And who are the 'ones controlling it all'?  The Jews? Wink
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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2005, 03:17:38 PM »

Pat Robertson once said something along the lines of that Christians in America are in the same status of Jews in Nazi Germany.

moral? Pat Robertson is a g idiot.

Ironic, as the Nazi Christians of Germany kept claiming that they were being oppressed by the same groups of people who they were murdering right and left (Jews, socialists, communists, homosexuals, the handicaped, Jehovah's witnesses, intelectuals, etc.)

Fortunately, most Christians in the US still hold dear the ideals of love thy neighbor and the such.   The ones who don't are just very very loud about it.

And I wouldn't be the least bit supprised if Roberston was a devil worshiper (or at the least, thoroughly evil).
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2005, 04:23:42 PM »

Generally speaking, no. But some rules and restrictions do seem too tight to me.

I wouldn't say Christians are oppressed, but I think that there is a strong anti-Christian current in many segments of society, such as academia and the entertainment industry.

If you don't think it's possible for a majority of a society to be oppressed, look at South Africa during apartheid.  It certain is possible if a majority is somehow stripped of its ability to assert its rights and fight back against oppression.

What Al and Dazzleman said. And even jmfcst says Robertson is a false prophet, so we can discard him right away.
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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2005, 07:28:27 PM »

Back in "the day" they used to say Catholics were oppressed because a lot of people wouldn't vote for one to be president. Even so though, Al Smith got on the ticket somehow.

But today, I'm sure that being a declared atheist or any other religion besides Christianity is a virtual kill in terms of getting a major party nomination.
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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2005, 11:18:44 PM »

I wouldn't say Christians are oppressed, but I think that there is a strong anti-Christian current in many segments of society, such as academia and the entertainment industry.

If you don't think it's possible for a majority of a society to be oppressed, look at South Africa during apartheid.  It certain is possible if a majority is somehow stripped of its ability to assert its rights and fight back against oppression.

Iraq is an example too.
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« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2005, 11:21:08 PM »

But is the US controlled by non-Christians? No, so there is obviously no oppression. Although our current moron occupying the White House has no problem kissing the actual Christian oppressor in my signature.
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« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2005, 11:53:32 PM »

There are more closet athiests than closet Christians.
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2005, 11:57:01 PM »

There are certain sections of America that have some anti-Christian bias, but not as much as there are areas with anti-atheist bias. This is mostly because there are more Christians than atheists in the United States.

Overall, no. Also, Bono, where do you get the idea that there is so much anti-religious bias in public schools?
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« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2005, 01:44:47 AM »

Did I go to public school in an alternate dimension, or did I just somehow miss the fact that they're vile, unproductive hellholes in which the practice of religion is tyrannically stamped out by Stalin worshippers?  I guess I should have taken AP Moral Relativism or something.
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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2005, 01:49:14 AM »

There are more closet athiests than closet Christians.
Do you have any proof?
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« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2005, 07:24:47 AM »

I wouldn't say Christians are oppressed, but I think that there is a strong anti-Christian current in many segments of society, such as academia and the entertainment industry.

If you don't think it's possible for a majority of a society to be oppressed, look at South Africa during apartheid.  It certain is possible if a majority is somehow stripped of its ability to assert its rights and fight back against oppression.

Iraq is an example too.

Actually most societies are run by an elite - including the US.
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